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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
For some reason Win98 won't keep track of the directories on the
floppies: Example: Two floppies. both have only one subfolder each with many files in each subfolder Disk 1 has folder Book 1, nothing else in root Disk 2 has folder Book 2, nothing else in root Windows Explorer shows 3 1/2 floopy (A:\) after inserting Disk 1 [containing Book 1] correctly shows the subfolder \Book 1 It's ok to use the disk a great deal. then insert Disk 2 [containing folder Book 2] keeps old display and adds the folder name \Book 1 \Book 2 Book 1 comes up with 'no access', can't delete name and only Book 2 works to get to files. Even VIEW/REFRESH does nothing to change either the display or the access. Switch back to Disk 1 and View/Refresh display stays the same, but now access only to Book 1 [after all it's the only one that exists after inserting Disk 1] But sometime after such a sequence, Win98 doesn't notice Disk 1 is in and can't gain access to anything ?! View/Refresh does not solve, but Reboot solves problem temporarily, but comes right back. What is going on? How do I truly refresh the 3 1/2 floppy access so the directory listing exactly relates to the disk's contents? Robert |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
Robert A. Macy wrote: For some reason Win98 won't keep track of the directories on the floppies: Example: Two floppies. both have only one subfolder each with many files in each subfolder Disk 1 has folder Book 1, nothing else in root Disk 2 has folder Book 2, nothing else in root Windows Explorer shows 3 1/2 floopy (A:\) after inserting Disk 1 [containing Book 1] correctly shows the subfolder \Book 1 It's ok to use the disk a great deal. then insert Disk 2 [containing folder Book 2] keeps old display and adds the folder name \Book 1 \Book 2 Book 1 comes up with 'no access', can't delete name and only Book 2 works to get to files. Even VIEW/REFRESH does nothing to change either the display or the access. Switch back to Disk 1 and View/Refresh display stays the same, but now access only to Book 1 [after all it's the only one that exists after inserting Disk 1] But sometime after such a sequence, Win98 doesn't notice Disk 1 is in and can't gain access to anything ?! View/Refresh does not solve, but Reboot solves problem temporarily, but comes right back. What is going on? How do I truly refresh the 3 1/2 floppy access so the directory listing exactly relates to the disk's contents? Robert Robert: I believe your floppy drive has a mechanical problem with the small switch that detects when a floppy is inserted or removed. If you have access to another floppy drive I suggest you try swapping the two drives and see if the problem persists. HTH & GL John -- \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Oct 19, 11:13*am, John Dulak wrote:
Robert A. Macy wrote: For some reason Win98 won't keep track of the directories on the floppies: Example: Two floppies. both have only one subfolder each with many files in each subfolder *Disk 1 has folder Book 1, nothing else in root *Disk 2 has folder Book 2, nothing else in root Windows Explorer shows *3 1/2 floopy (A:\) after inserting Disk 1 [containing Book 1] correctly shows the subfolder *\Book 1 It's ok to use the disk a great deal. then insert Disk 2 [containing folder Book 2] *keeps old display and adds the folder name \Book 1 \Book 2 Book 1 comes up with 'no access', can't delete name and only Book 2 works to get to files. Even VIEW/REFRESH does nothing to change either the display or the access. Switch back to Disk 1 and View/Refresh display stays the same, but now access only to Book 1 [after all it's the only one that exists after inserting Disk 1] But sometime after such a sequence, Win98 doesn't notice Disk 1 is in and can't gain access to anything ?! View/Refresh does not solve, but Reboot solves problem temporarily, but comes right back. What is going on? *How do I truly refresh the 3 1/2 floppy access so the directory listing exactly relates to the disk's contents? Robert Robert: I believe your floppy drive has a mechanical problem with the small switch that detects when a floppy is inserted or removed. If you have access to another floppy drive I suggest you try swapping the two drives and see if the problem persists. HTH & GL John -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW -http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 Thank you for your reply. Without swapping in a different unit, is there some check I can perform to see if indeed this switch has turned intermittent? Robert |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Oct 19, 11:13*am, John Dulak wrote:
Robert A. Macy wrote: For some reason Win98 won't keep track of the directories on the floppies: Example: Two floppies. both have only one subfolder each with many files in each subfolder *Disk 1 has folder Book 1, nothing else in root *Disk 2 has folder Book 2, nothing else in root Windows Explorer shows *3 1/2 floopy (A:\) after inserting Disk 1 [containing Book 1] correctly shows the subfolder *\Book 1 It's ok to use the disk a great deal. then insert Disk 2 [containing folder Book 2] *keeps old display and adds the folder name \Book 1 \Book 2 Book 1 comes up with 'no access', can't delete name and only Book 2 works to get to files. Even VIEW/REFRESH does nothing to change either the display or the access. Switch back to Disk 1 and View/Refresh display stays the same, but now access only to Book 1 [after all it's the only one that exists after inserting Disk 1] But sometime after such a sequence, Win98 doesn't notice Disk 1 is in and can't gain access to anything ?! View/Refresh does not solve, but Reboot solves problem temporarily, but comes right back. What is going on? *How do I truly refresh the 3 1/2 floppy access so the directory listing exactly relates to the disk's contents? Robert Robert: I believe your floppy drive has a mechanical problem with the small switch that detects when a floppy is inserted or removed. If you have access to another floppy drive I suggest you try swapping the two drives and see if the problem persists. HTH & GL John -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW -http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 John, I tried using the Device Manager and Reresh both the flopply controllers [used to work when the keyboard got flaky] But to no avail. What did seem to work is to right click on 3 1/2 Floppy and select Explore, that causes everything to be read anew! The floppy drive is over 15 years old and our atmosphere is noted for ruining contact switches: Unused extension telephone no keypad functions. DVD Players within six months switches don't work. VHS Player same. TV long since quit, etc etc so it seems possible that the switch detecting a new disk is not closing. Robert |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT), "Robert A. Macy"
put finger to keyboard and composed: I tried using the Device Manager and Refresh both the floppy controllers ... You have *two* floppy controllers? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT), "Robert A. Macy"
put finger to keyboard and composed: I tried using the Device Manager and Refresh both the floppy controllers ... You have *two* floppy controllers? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
Robert A. Macy wrote:
Without swapping in a different unit, is there some check I can perform to see if indeed this switch has turned intermittent? Robert Robert: The implementation will vary depending on the manufacturer and the model. If you are comfortable taking the thing apart you can look for something near the opening that is triggered when a disk is inserted or ejected. Typically these switches are similar to the two that are used to sense the state of the "Write Protect" slide (left) and the presence of the hole that tells the drive is a 1.44 Meg and not a 720 K disk (right). A drop or two of alcohol and working the switches a few times can also work. While inside it is also worthwhile to re seat the cable a few times (both ends) just in case it has gone haywire. Good Luck. John -- \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Oct 19, 12:05*pm, Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT), "Robert A. Macy" put finger to keyboard and composed: I tried using the Device Manager and Refresh both the floppy controllers ... You have *two* floppy controllers? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. oops, one is disk drive, the other is disk controller, but I always refresh both. |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Oct 19, 12:05*pm, Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT), "Robert A. Macy" put finger to keyboard and composed: I tried using the Device Manager and Refresh both the floppy controllers ... You have *two* floppy controllers? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. oops, one is disk drive, the other is disk controller, but I always refresh both. |
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3 1/2 floppy drive names accumulate and are wrong!
On Oct 19, 2:58*pm, John Dulak wrote:
Robert A. Macy wrote: Without swapping in a different unit, is there some check I can perform to see if indeed this switch has turned intermittent? Robert Robert: The implementation will vary depending on the manufacturer and the model. If you are comfortable taking the thing apart you can look for something near the opening that is triggered when a disk is inserted or ejected. Typically these switches are similar to the two that are used to sense the state of the "Write Protect" slide (left) and the presence of the hole that tells the drive is a 1.44 Meg and not a 720 K disk (right). A drop or two of alcohol and working the switches a few times can also work. While inside it is also worthwhile to re seat the cable a few times (both ends) just in case it has gone haywire. Good Luck. John -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW -http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 Good ideas. Taking apart now is not an option. especially that cabling idea. Will keep in mind for when I do get access to the PC |
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