Temp &Temp int files

Tempory int files and temp and MSDOWNLD.TMP.

In janet & john talk, what are they exactly,(speak slowly as I am only a
learner),
what do they do,
why are they stored on the computer
do you miss them if you delete them
do they slow the computer down (or speed it up or help or hinder in any way)
There are loads on our machine, should I delete some or all of them

If possible please answer each question in turn

I don't know how I'd cope if you weren't here

Cheers Steve

"moonraker" wrote in message
...

Tempory int files and temp and MSDOWNLD.TMP.

In janet & john talk, what are they exactly,(speak slowly as I am only a
learner),
what do they do,
why are they stored on the computer
do you miss them if you delete them
do they slow the computer down (or speed it up or help or hinder in any
way)
There are loads on our machine, should I delete some or all of them

1. Temporary Internet Files are controlled by your
browser's / Tools / Internet Options / Temp. Int. Files.
Recent information is saved so a page opens faster
on your second visit to it. Your options / settings
decide how much disk space can be assigned to
this function. You can clear all the space at will.
2. Other TMP files are associated with (a) downloads
(b) installations, (c) complex apps like Adobe Reader which
need workspace (provided in C:\Temp or C:\Windows\temp)
to prepare what you see on screen. In theory all these
files should delete themselves when you have finished;
in real life some of them persist.
3. So when you have completed a new installation
and rebooted OK you can delete all TMP files other
than Temp Int. Files (better handled as in #1 above.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

TEMP is actually an "environment". Any folder can be designated as the
TEMP folder. Whenever any program needs to use the TEMP folder, it just
asks for TEMP (aka %temp% and many other code names) and the system puts
the files wherever the designated TEMP folder is. In Windows 95, 98, and
ME, (9x systems) that folder is usually C:\Windows\TEMP. But you always
want to remember that this folder may not be *the* TEMP folder. Someone
may have run some code that changed the TEMP environment to some other
folder. I do it on my machines--I have a partition devoted to TEMP
functions, with at TEMP folder, a Temporary Internet Files folder, and
other folders with similar functions. (Note that you can delete the
C:\Windows\TEMP folder in DOS mode, and even if it isn't the designated
TEMP environment, it will still be recreated automatically when you
restart.) The TEMP and Temporary Internet Files folders tend to be very
volatile, with hundreds or thousands of files being written and deleted
daily. Leaving these environments in the middle of the Windows folder
makes a mess, provides lots of opportunities for corruption, and makes
the system need defragmenting much more often.

Files found in TEMP are often those extracted from a compressed
installation package--the installer needs to decompress them somewhere
before it can run Setup, move the files to their proper locations, etc.
The installer may also leave some files and configuration data there so
that it is available during the next startup--some installation
procedures can't be run while Windows is still running, so the installer
inserts a command or commands to perform the functions during initial
phases of start up. Other files found in TEMP might be log files that
are open while Windows is running. They might get written permanently to
some other location as you shut down, they might just be garbage. Also,
some programs save timed backups of your work, and while not many use
TEMP for this any more, it's not unheard of.

All of this is to explain that while most of what is in TEMP is garbage,
you want to make sure to only empty it following a restart, and to not
empty it if you are in a "lost files" situation--your machine crashed
with a program open and you weren't able to save your work--that timed
backup may still be in TEMP. Also, any logs being kept may provide
useful information after a crash. But if your machine is running OK, you
don't think you've lost any work, and you've just rebooted, it's
generally safe to delete the contents of TEMP.

Temporary Internet Files, aka the browser cache, is where files are
downloaded to that make up a web page (in its simplest terms.) You don't
view files from other places when you surf the internet--you download
all of the components to your cache, then use those files to build the
web page. Since each page usually consists of several files, it doesn't
take too long to fill the cache. There are several different ways to
manage the cache, but in the case of IE 4 and beyond, it isn't wise to
delete the files manually. There is a whole catalogue system to keep
track of those files, and deleting them without updating the catalogue
creates a mess. SO always use the methods provided to empty the cache.
In IE, that mechanism is the "Delete Files" button in Internet Settings.
Lastly, you should limit the amount of space the cache uses. Some say
only 10 MB, I like 26 to 64 MB, and some like even a bit more. But when
you get into a 100 MB of cache or more, you're just wasting space, and
even slowing things down because whenever IE calls for a file to be
reused, the larger the cache, the longer it takes to locate and pull up
that file.

MSDOWNLD.TMP files are also garbage. But not *all* TMP files are
garbage. You want to be very sure about what you are looking at before
deleting *any* files. On the other hand, MSDOWNLD.TMP files are
generally small and few. No big deal.

For more info, see my article:
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"moonraker" wrote in message
...
Tempory int files and temp and MSDOWNLD.TMP.

In janet & john talk, what are they exactly,(speak slowly as I am only
a
learner),
what do they do,
why are they stored on the computer
do you miss them if you delete them
do they slow the computer down (or speed it up or help or hinder in
any way)
There are loads on our machine, should I delete some or all of them

If possible please answer each question in turn

I don't know how I'd cope if you weren't here

Cheers Steve

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
1. Temporary Internet Files are controlled by your
browser's / Tools / Internet Options / Temp. Int. Files.
Recent information is saved so a page opens faster
on your second visit to it. Your options / settings
decide how much disk space can be assigned to
this function. You can clear all the space at will.

That isn't the primary reason for the TIF system, actually. The primary
reason is to provide a cache for local copies of the files needed to
display a page--you don't open files directly from a remote internet
server. You download them first, then open the local copy.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

Thanks for the reply

I've got a headache now!!!!!!!

I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've only got a
little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my brain it
pushes some of the old out!!!!!

I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-

In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like 3400mb of
"garbage"

I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties temp
int' files delete files.

What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here also.

I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested

While we're here what about the "check for newer vertion of......... what
setting would you suggest and why????

Do you have a link that talks about setting???

Thanks for your time and effort

I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!

Many thanks (again) Steve




"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

TEMP is actually an "environment". Any folder can be designated as the
TEMP folder. Whenever any program needs to use the TEMP folder, it just.....................

For more info, see my article:
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"moonraker" wrote in message
...
Tempory int files and temp and MSDOWNLD.TMP.

In janet & john talk, what are they exactly,(speak slowly as I am only
a
learner),
what do they do,
why are they stored on the computer
do you miss them if you delete them
do they slow the computer down (or speed it up or help or hinder in
any way)
There are loads on our machine, should I delete some or all of them

If possible please answer each question in turn

I don't know how I'd cope if you weren't here

Cheers Steve

"moonraker" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply

I've got a headache now!!!!!!!

Standard side-effect of learning computerology, s.

I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've only
got a
little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my brain
it
pushes some of the old out!!!!!

Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean! Fortunately, when I'm vague
about details in this group, there's always somebody lurking around
who's ready to toss out the right answers.

I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-

'K.

In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like
3400mb of
"garbage"

Back when hard drives were tiny, setting the size of the cache at 12% of
total disk space (or is it total free space?) seemed like a good idea.
Heh, heh, heh...

I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties
temp
int' files delete files.

It is, indeed. And always make sure to include "Offline content."
Outlook Express is heavily hooked into Internet Explorer, and back when
IE 5dotsumthiniorother came out, something they did added a 0-byte
entries to the cache index whenever something else occurred in OE.

What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here also.

Cookies are text files added to a cookie cache (and replicated in the
Internet cache) that say, at the least, that you've been to the site
that set the cookie. Helps them remember who you are. When you add
something to your Shopping Cart at Buy.com, for instance, that info is
either stored in a cookie, or a cookie contains your unique identifier
so they can match you to our shopping cart. When you save your
Preferences at Google.com, they're saved in a Cookie. Cookies are also a
simple way to carry information you enter on one page forward to the
next page. The name of the text file is your username@domain, where your
username is your Windows logon name and the Domain is whatever site
you're at. , for instance. So far, cookies sound like a
great idea, right? Unfortunately, the most wide-spread use of cookies is
simply to tell others where you've been, what you've searched for, how
long you stayed, etc., all for the purposes of profiling your shopping
and surfing habits--makes it easier to target the advertising they show
you. Here's what I do: In IE6, Internet Settings, Privacy tab, use
Advanced handling. (In earlier versions of IE, these settings are in the
Security Zones.) "Prompt" for "First-party" cookies (cookies set by the
domain you are at,), "Block" "Third-party" cookies (cookies set by some
other domain, like the domain of an advertisement that's shown in a
portion of the page you're at,) and "Allow per-session" cookies, the
simple cookies that help remember info while you're at a site, but which
are not stored in the permanent Cookies cache. Whenever a site wants to
set a First-party cookie, you are prompted Yes/No, and afforded an
opportunity to Remember your decision into the future.

I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested

That's the upper end of the suggested limit--OK for modern machines. The
older and slower your system, the smaller the cache should be. But if
you make it *too* small, bad things start happening.

While we're here what about the "check for newer version of.........
what
setting would you suggest and why????

I'd say, No. But then you should either use Critical Update
Notification, a Scheduled app that periodically checks to see if you're
online, and if so, checks to see if there are any new Critical Updates
and Windows Updates, or you should get into the habit of checking for
new Updates at *least* once a week, on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific time.)
That's because Security Updates and other patches are typically released
on Tuesday morning.

Do you have a link that talks about setting???

Setting what? All those things in IE? Well, I'm not sure. Sandi
Hardmeier is the Queen of IE at http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/, but
there are several other excellent IE MVPs (Sandi's the Queen because
she's the one with the huge flame-thrower!) Kelly Theriot has an
extensive site, also--http://www.kellys-korner.com. It's an XP support
site, but that means it's also an Internet Explorer 6 support site.

Here's the "Big List" of MVP help sites:
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#InternetExplorer


Thanks for your time and effort

You're welcome. Repetition helps dig the old memory grooves deeper,

I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!

Good idea. I knew you'd be back after I wrote the previous last night.
So I hurried to bed and got some sleep, just so I would be ready to
write this one, bg.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

Gary, I disagree with you on one point. I used the critical update
notification in the past but I have it not installed it in my current
configuration. For some reason, this notification wanted to check Windows
Update site every 5 minutes to see if there was a critical update. Now, I
think for most users this is over-kill and when I attempted to change the
settings on my previous system, it would simply default to the 5 minutes upon
restart of the computer. Other than that one point, I completely agree with
you. :

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: "moonraker" wrote in message
: ...
: Thanks for the reply
:
: I've got a headache now!!!!!!!
:
: Standard side-effect of learning computerology, s.
:
: I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've only
: got a
: little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my brain
: it
: pushes some of the old out!!!!!
:
: Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean! Fortunately, when I'm vague
: about details in this group, there's always somebody lurking around
: who's ready to toss out the right answers.
:
: I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-
:
: 'K.
:
: In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like
: 3400mb of
: "garbage"
:
: Back when hard drives were tiny, setting the size of the cache at 12% of
: total disk space (or is it total free space?) seemed like a good idea.
: Heh, heh, heh...
:
: I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties
: temp
: int' files delete files.
:
: It is, indeed. And always make sure to include "Offline content."
: Outlook Express is heavily hooked into Internet Explorer, and back when
: IE 5dotsumthiniorother came out, something they did added a 0-byte
: entries to the cache index whenever something else occurred in OE.
:
: What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here also.
:
: Cookies are text files added to a cookie cache (and replicated in the
: Internet cache) that say, at the least, that you've been to the site
: that set the cookie. Helps them remember who you are. When you add
: something to your Shopping Cart at Buy.com, for instance, that info is
: either stored in a cookie, or a cookie contains your unique identifier
: so they can match you to our shopping cart. When you save your
: Preferences at Google.com, they're saved in a Cookie. Cookies are also a
: simple way to carry information you enter on one page forward to the
: next page. The name of the text file is your username@domain, where your
: username is your Windows logon name and the Domain is whatever site
: you're at. , for instance. So far, cookies sound like a
: great idea, right? Unfortunately, the most wide-spread use of cookies is
: simply to tell others where you've been, what you've searched for, how
: long you stayed, etc., all for the purposes of profiling your shopping
: and surfing habits--makes it easier to target the advertising they show
: you. Here's what I do: In IE6, Internet Settings, Privacy tab, use
: Advanced handling. (In earlier versions of IE, these settings are in the
: Security Zones.) "Prompt" for "First-party" cookies (cookies set by the
: domain you are at,), "Block" "Third-party" cookies (cookies set by some
: other domain, like the domain of an advertisement that's shown in a
: portion of the page you're at,) and "Allow per-session" cookies, the
: simple cookies that help remember info while you're at a site, but which
: are not stored in the permanent Cookies cache. Whenever a site wants to
: set a First-party cookie, you are prompted Yes/No, and afforded an
: opportunity to Remember your decision into the future.
:
: I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested
:
: That's the upper end of the suggested limit--OK for modern machines. The
: older and slower your system, the smaller the cache should be. But if
: you make it *too* small, bad things start happening.
:
: While we're here what about the "check for newer version of.........
: what
: setting would you suggest and why????
:
: I'd say, No. But then you should either use Critical Update
: Notification, a Scheduled app that periodically checks to see if you're
: online, and if so, checks to see if there are any new Critical Updates
: and Windows Updates, or you should get into the habit of checking for
: new Updates at *least* once a week, on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific time.)
: That's because Security Updates and other patches are typically released
: on Tuesday morning.
:
: Do you have a link that talks about setting???
:
: Setting what? All those things in IE? Well, I'm not sure. Sandi
: Hardmeier is the Queen of IE at http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/, but
: there are several other excellent IE MVPs (Sandi's the Queen because
: she's the one with the huge flame-thrower!) Kelly Theriot has an
: extensive site, also--http://www.kellys-korner.com. It's an XP support
: site, but that means it's also an Internet Explorer 6 support site.
:
: Here's the "Big List" of MVP help sites:
: http://www.mvps.org/links.html#InternetExplorer
:
:
: Thanks for your time and effort
:
: You're welcome. Repetition helps dig the old memory grooves deeper,
:
: I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!
:
: Good idea. I knew you'd be back after I wrote the previous last night.
: So I hurried to bed and got some sleep, just so I would be ready to
: write this one, bg.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
:

It doesn't check for updates every five minutes, Dan. It checks every
five minutes to see if you're online. If you are, it's a very low
overhead to run a quick query to see if there's anything new. I don't
understand what your objections are.

Also, if you read what I wrote more carefully, the suggestion was an
optional one among a couple of other alternate methods.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Gary, I disagree with you on one point. I used the critical update
notification in the past but I have it not installed it in my current
configuration. For some reason, this notification wanted to check
Windows
Update site every 5 minutes to see if there was a critical update.
Now, I
think for most users this is over-kill and when I attempted to change
the
settings on my previous system, it would simply default to the 5
minutes upon
restart of the computer. Other than that one point, I completely
agree with
you. :

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: "moonraker" wrote in message
: ...
: Thanks for the reply
:
: I've got a headache now!!!!!!!
:
: Standard side-effect of learning computerology, s.
:
: I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've
only
: got a
: little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my
brain
: it
: pushes some of the old out!!!!!
:
: Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean! Fortunately, when I'm
vague
: about details in this group, there's always somebody lurking around
: who's ready to toss out the right answers.
:
: I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-
:
: 'K.
:
: In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like
: 3400mb of
: "garbage"
:
: Back when hard drives were tiny, setting the size of the cache at
12% of
: total disk space (or is it total free space?) seemed like a good
idea.
: Heh, heh, heh...
:
: I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties

: temp
: int' files delete files.
:
: It is, indeed. And always make sure to include "Offline content."
: Outlook Express is heavily hooked into Internet Explorer, and back
when
: IE 5dotsumthiniorother came out, something they did added a 0-byte
: entries to the cache index whenever something else occurred in OE.
:
: What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here
also.
:
: Cookies are text files added to a cookie cache (and replicated in
the
: Internet cache) that say, at the least, that you've been to the site
: that set the cookie. Helps them remember who you are. When you add
: something to your Shopping Cart at Buy.com, for instance, that info
is
: either stored in a cookie, or a cookie contains your unique
identifier
: so they can match you to our shopping cart. When you save your
: Preferences at Google.com, they're saved in a Cookie. Cookies are
also a
: simple way to carry information you enter on one page forward to the
: next page. The name of the text file is your username@domain, where
your
: username is your Windows logon name and the Domain is whatever site
: you're at. , for instance. So far, cookies sound like a
: great idea, right? Unfortunately, the most wide-spread use of
cookies is
: simply to tell others where you've been, what you've searched for,
how
: long you stayed, etc., all for the purposes of profiling your
shopping
: and surfing habits--makes it easier to target the advertising they
show
: you. Here's what I do: In IE6, Internet Settings, Privacy tab, use
: Advanced handling. (In earlier versions of IE, these settings are in
the
: Security Zones.) "Prompt" for "First-party" cookies (cookies set by
the
: domain you are at,), "Block" "Third-party" cookies (cookies set by
some
: other domain, like the domain of an advertisement that's shown in a
: portion of the page you're at,) and "Allow per-session" cookies, the
: simple cookies that help remember info while you're at a site, but
which
: are not stored in the permanent Cookies cache. Whenever a site wants
to
: set a First-party cookie, you are prompted Yes/No, and afforded an
: opportunity to Remember your decision into the future.
:
: I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested
:
: That's the upper end of the suggested limit--OK for modern machines.
The
: older and slower your system, the smaller the cache should be. But
if
: you make it *too* small, bad things start happening.
:
: While we're here what about the "check for newer version
of.........
: what
: setting would you suggest and why????
:
: I'd say, No. But then you should either use Critical Update
: Notification, a Scheduled app that periodically checks to see if
you're
: online, and if so, checks to see if there are any new Critical
Updates
: and Windows Updates, or you should get into the habit of checking
for
: new Updates at *least* once a week, on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific
time.)
: That's because Security Updates and other patches are typically
released
: on Tuesday morning.
:
: Do you have a link that talks about setting???
:
: Setting what? All those things in IE? Well, I'm not sure. Sandi
: Hardmeier is the Queen of IE at http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/,
but
: there are several other excellent IE MVPs (Sandi's the Queen because
: she's the one with the huge flame-thrower!) Kelly Theriot has an
: extensive site, also--http://www.kellys-korner.com. It's an XP
support
: site, but that means it's also an Internet Explorer 6 support site.
:
: Here's the "Big List" of MVP help sites:
: http://www.mvps.org/links.html#InternetExplorer
:
:
: Thanks for your time and effort
:
: You're welcome. Repetition helps dig the old memory grooves deeper,
:
: I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!
:
: Good idea. I knew you'd be back after I wrote the previous last
night.
: So I hurried to bed and got some sleep, just so I would be ready to
: write this one, bg.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
:

Thanks Gary! and correction noted and thanks for helping me realize that but
I am very picky with my computer and I do not need any app. even a Microsoft
one checking whether I am on-line or not.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: It doesn't check for updates every five minutes, Dan. It checks every
: five minutes to see if you're online. If you are, it's a very low
: overhead to run a quick query to see if there's anything new. I don't
: understand what your objections are.
:
: Also, if you read what I wrote more carefully, the suggestion was an
: optional one among a couple of other alternate methods.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Gary, I disagree with you on one point. I used the critical update
: notification in the past but I have it not installed it in my current
: configuration. For some reason, this notification wanted to check
: Windows
: Update site every 5 minutes to see if there was a critical update.
: Now, I
: think for most users this is over-kill and when I attempted to change
: the
: settings on my previous system, it would simply default to the 5
: minutes upon
: restart of the computer. Other than that one point, I completely
: agree with
: you. :
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : "moonraker" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Thanks for the reply
: :
: : I've got a headache now!!!!!!!
: :
: : Standard side-effect of learning computerology, s.
: :
: : I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've
: only
: : got a
: : little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my
: brain
: : it
: : pushes some of the old out!!!!!
: :
: : Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean! Fortunately, when I'm
: vague
: : about details in this group, there's always somebody lurking around
: : who's ready to toss out the right answers.
: :
: : I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-
: :
: : 'K.
: :
: : In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like
: : 3400mb of
: : "garbage"
: :
: : Back when hard drives were tiny, setting the size of the cache at
: 12% of
: : total disk space (or is it total free space?) seemed like a good
: idea.
: : Heh, heh, heh...
: :
: : I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties
:
: : temp
: : int' files delete files.
: :
: : It is, indeed. And always make sure to include "Offline content."
: : Outlook Express is heavily hooked into Internet Explorer, and back
: when
: : IE 5dotsumthiniorother came out, something they did added a 0-byte
: : entries to the cache index whenever something else occurred in OE.
: :
: : What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here
: also.
: :
: : Cookies are text files added to a cookie cache (and replicated in
: the
: : Internet cache) that say, at the least, that you've been to the site
: : that set the cookie. Helps them remember who you are. When you add
: : something to your Shopping Cart at Buy.com, for instance, that info
: is
: : either stored in a cookie, or a cookie contains your unique
: identifier
: : so they can match you to our shopping cart. When you save your
: : Preferences at Google.com, they're saved in a Cookie. Cookies are
: also a
: : simple way to carry information you enter on one page forward to the
: : next page. The name of the text file is your username@domain, where
: your
: : username is your Windows logon name and the Domain is whatever site
: : you're at. , for instance. So far, cookies sound like a
: : great idea, right? Unfortunately, the most wide-spread use of
: cookies is
: : simply to tell others where you've been, what you've searched for,
: how
: : long you stayed, etc., all for the purposes of profiling your
: shopping
: : and surfing habits--makes it easier to target the advertising they
: show
: : you. Here's what I do: In IE6, Internet Settings, Privacy tab, use
: : Advanced handling. (In earlier versions of IE, these settings are in
: the
: : Security Zones.) "Prompt" for "First-party" cookies (cookies set by
: the
: : domain you are at,), "Block" "Third-party" cookies (cookies set by
: some
: : other domain, like the domain of an advertisement that's shown in a
: : portion of the page you're at,) and "Allow per-session" cookies, the
: : simple cookies that help remember info while you're at a site, but
: which
: : are not stored in the permanent Cookies cache. Whenever a site wants
: to
: : set a First-party cookie, you are prompted Yes/No, and afforded an
: : opportunity to Remember your decision into the future.
: :
: : I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested
: :
: : That's the upper end of the suggested limit--OK for modern machines.
: The
: : older and slower your system, the smaller the cache should be. But
: if
: : you make it *too* small, bad things start happening.
: :
: : While we're here what about the "check for newer version
: of.........
: : what
: : setting would you suggest and why????
: :
: : I'd say, No. But then you should either use Critical Update
: : Notification, a Scheduled app that periodically checks to see if
: you're
: : online, and if so, checks to see if there are any new Critical
: Updates
: : and Windows Updates, or you should get into the habit of checking
: for
: : new Updates at *least* once a week, on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific
: time.)
: : That's because Security Updates and other patches are typically
: released
: : on Tuesday morning.
: :
: : Do you have a link that talks about setting???
: :
: : Setting what? All those things in IE? Well, I'm not sure. Sandi
: : Hardmeier is the Queen of IE at http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/,
: but
: : there are several other excellent IE MVPs (Sandi's the Queen because
: : she's the one with the huge flame-thrower!) Kelly Theriot has an
: : extensive site, also--http://www.kellys-korner.com. It's an XP
: support
: : site, but that means it's also an Internet Explorer 6 support site.
: :
: : Here's the "Big List" of MVP help sites:
: : http://www.mvps.org/links.html#InternetExplorer
: :
: :
: : Thanks for your time and effort
: :
: : You're welcome. Repetition helps dig the old memory grooves deeper,
: :
: : I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!
: :
: : Good idea. I knew you'd be back after I wrote the previous last
: night.
: : So I hurried to bed and got some sleep, just so I would be ready to
: : write this one, bg.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: :
:
:
:

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
It doesn't check for updates every five minutes, Dan. It checks every
five minutes to see if you're online. If you are, it's a very low
overhead to run a quick query to see if there's anything new. I don't
understand what your objections are.

I can tell you! Oh, that's right, I already have told you. Nevermind....
LOL

Also, if you read what I wrote more carefully, the suggestion was an
optional one among a couple of other alternate methods.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Gary, I disagree with you on one point. I used the critical update
notification in the past but I have it not installed it in my current
configuration. For some reason, this notification wanted to check
Windows
Update site every 5 minutes to see if there was a critical update. Now, I
think for most users this is over-kill and when I attempted to change the
settings on my previous system, it would simply default to the 5 minutes
upon
restart of the computer. Other than that one point, I completely agree
with
you. :

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"moonraker" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply

I've got a headache now!!!!!!!

Standard side-effect of learning computerology, s.

I am so glad you did not get to technical,(like pooh bear i've only got
a
little brain, and like homor simson when new stuff goes into my brain
it
pushes some of the old out!!!!!

Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean! Fortunately, when I'm vague
about details in this group, there's always somebody lurking around
who's ready to toss out the right answers.

I understand a bit more now, but one step at a time:-

'K.

In control panel internet properties setting I had summin like
3400mb
of "garbage"

Back when hard drives were tiny, setting the size of the cache at 12% of
total disk space (or is it total free space?) seemed like a good idea.
Heh, heh, heh...

I assume this is where I do the deleting - i.e internet properties
temp
int' files delete files.

It is, indeed. And always make sure to include "Offline content."
Outlook Express is heavily hooked into Internet Explorer, and back when
IE 5dotsumthiniorother came out, something they did added a 0-byte
entries to the cache index whenever something else occurred in OE.

What about the cookies - what are they? - do I delete these here also.

Cookies are text files added to a cookie cache (and replicated in the
Internet cache) that say, at the least, that you've been to the site
that set the cookie. Helps them remember who you are. When you add
something to your Shopping Cart at Buy.com, for instance, that info is
either stored in a cookie, or a cookie contains your unique identifier
so they can match you to our shopping cart. When you save your
Preferences at Google.com, they're saved in a Cookie. Cookies are also a
simple way to carry information you enter on one page forward to the
next page. The name of the text file is your username@domain, where your
username is your Windows logon name and the Domain is whatever site
you're at. , for instance. So far, cookies sound like a
great idea, right? Unfortunately, the most wide-spread use of cookies is
simply to tell others where you've been, what you've searched for, how
long you stayed, etc., all for the purposes of profiling your shopping
and surfing habits--makes it easier to target the advertising they show
you. Here's what I do: In IE6, Internet Settings, Privacy tab, use
Advanced handling. (In earlier versions of IE, these settings are in the
Security Zones.) "Prompt" for "First-party" cookies (cookies set by the
domain you are at,), "Block" "Third-party" cookies (cookies set by some
other domain, like the domain of an advertisement that's shown in a
portion of the page you're at,) and "Allow per-session" cookies, the
simple cookies that help remember info while you're at a site, but which
are not stored in the permanent Cookies cache. Whenever a site wants to
set a First-party cookie, you are prompted Yes/No, and afforded an
opportunity to Remember your decision into the future.

I've reduced the size down to about 60 as you suggested

That's the upper end of the suggested limit--OK for modern machines. The
older and slower your system, the smaller the cache should be. But if
you make it *too* small, bad things start happening.

While we're here what about the "check for newer version of.........
what
setting would you suggest and why????

I'd say, No. But then you should either use Critical Update
Notification, a Scheduled app that periodically checks to see if you're
online, and if so, checks to see if there are any new Critical Updates
and Windows Updates, or you should get into the habit of checking for
new Updates at *least* once a week, on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific time.)
That's because Security Updates and other patches are typically released
on Tuesday morning.

Do you have a link that talks about setting???

Setting what? All those things in IE? Well, I'm not sure. Sandi
Hardmeier is the Queen of IE at http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/, but
there are several other excellent IE MVPs (Sandi's the Queen because
she's the one with the huge flame-thrower!) Kelly Theriot has an
extensive site, also--http://www.kellys-korner.com. It's an XP support
site, but that means it's also an Internet Explorer 6 support site.

Here's the "Big List" of MVP help sites:
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#InternetExplorer


Thanks for your time and effort

You're welcome. Repetition helps dig the old memory grooves deeper,

I'm going for a lie down now!!!!!!!!!

Good idea. I knew you'd be back after I wrote the previous last night.
So I hurried to bed and got some sleep, just so I would be ready to
write this one, bg.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User