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1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)



 
 
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Old November 2nd 11, 05:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

1.

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw there is
no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid start menu. I
can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't figure out how to do
it, so I can't get rid of it on my 98SEL machine.

Does anyone know how?

2.

BTW, I just discovered the most incredible taskbar-replacement
tool ever - I have had it in my archives for ages, but I never
got around to trying it. ****ing MAD!

It's Windows PowerPro (yes, I know it sounds like ****).

FWIW, "Windows PowerPro" was so buggy on my 98SEL machine that I
thought the author was a retard. But I found what he replaced
(we all know what THAT means) with Windows PowerPro - something
called STILETTO.

Stiletto works like a charm - AFAICT it does everything that WPP
does, except it actually works:

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...etto-Download-
77699.html

(It's under 300KB...)

Of course, WPP /may/ work on your machine:

http://powerpro.webeddie.com/

(THIS is just under 4MB [sic]...)

Take your pick, both S and WPP are free.

This should be /especially/ popular with people who are too
stupid to use Opera. (In case you can't ell, this is called
sarcasm. It tales along time to st up, and it is on ongoing
process until you just run out of things you need help with, but
it is more than worth it.)

I wonder what ELSE I have in my old archives that is another
lifesaver...

--
"Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at
it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named
Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found
out that you had already stolen it."
Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983
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Old November 2nd 11, 06:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo[_34_]
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not forIE)

On 11/01/2011 11:07 PM, thanatoid wrote:
1.

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw there is
no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid start menu. I
can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't figure out how to do
it, so I can't get rid of it on my 98SEL machine.

Does anyone know how?



Isn't that option in the control panel under power options?
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Old November 2nd 11, 08:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

philo wrote in
:

On 11/01/2011 11:07 PM, thanatoid wrote:
1.

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw
there is no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid
start menu. I can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't
figure out how to do it, so I can't get rid of it on my
98SEL machine.

Does anyone know how?

Isn't that option in the control panel under power
options?


Not on this machine. I have "power management" and this
particular setting is nowhere to be found. Sigh.



--
"Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at
it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named
Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found
out that you had already stolen it."
Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983
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Old November 2nd 11, 11:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

thanatoid wrote in
:

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw there is
no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid start menu. I
can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't figure out how to do
it, so I can't get rid of it on my 98SEL machine.


It's on mine too but it won't do anything, no matter how many things are shut
down first, it thinks that somethign is actively disallowing it. WHich is ok,
I don't like it anyway, some things fail to wake up afterwards if it happens.
Getting rid of the start menu entry might need a resource hack of User.exe or
Explorer.exe.

There may be some specific ClassID that can be removed from the registry to
stop this thing too, but I doubt it, like the recycle bins, some things are
too deeply embedded as a permanent part of the code to be easily or cleanly
removed.

If I find out more I'll post again, but don't hold your breath waiting...

-----------

About the other thing, I'm ok with the standard taskbar but one thing I'd
like if it exists, is an automatic restoration of systray icons after an
Explorer shell restart, and a way to tell it certain programs to kill and
relaunch, like the transparent icon text tool, etc.
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Old November 2nd 11, 12:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

Lostgallifreyan wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote in
:

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw
there is no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid
start menu. I can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't
figure out how to do it, so I can't get rid of it on my
98SEL machine.

It's on mine too but it won't do anything, no matter how
many things are shut down first, it thinks that somethign
is actively disallowing it.


Hmm. Mine works, I clicked it once by accident, and it ****ed
things up royally. Stupid MS.

WHich is ok, I don't like it
anyway, some things fail to wake up afterwards if it
happens. Getting rid of the start menu entry might need a
resource hack of User.exe or Explorer.exe.


I have been hacking things recently with Resource Tuner - I
prefer it to Res. Hacker. It drives me nuts that neither will
hack 16bit exes.

There may be some specific ClassID that can be removed from
the registry to stop this thing too, but I doubt it, like
the recycle bins, some things are too deeply embedded as a
permanent part of the code to be easily or cleanly removed.


I searched through the STUPID ****ING DOGDAMNED REGISTRY but
didn't find anything.

If I find out more I'll post again, but don't hold your
breath waiting...


I won't hold my breath but I'll be hoping.

About the other thing, I'm ok with the standard taskbar but
one thing I'd like if it exists, is an automatic
restoration of systray icons after an Explorer shell
restart, and a way to tell it certain programs to kill and
relaunch, like the transparent icon text tool, etc.


Do you have binaries access? I have the thing for you. I could
just give you the URL, but the new version is - of course -
bloated and costs money. It's not automatic, but two clicks (one
right and one left) is not too much to ask to solve one of the
most infuriating features of this **** OS. There are actually
several programs that do it, but they are all very bloated and
do a lot of other really stupid things. One job per program,
please.

You may get responses listing some of them. Don't bother.


--
"Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at
it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named
Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found
out that you had already stolen it."
Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983
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Old November 2nd 11, 01:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo[_34_]
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not forIE)

On 11/02/2011 02:49 AM, thanatoid wrote:
wrote in
:

On 11/01/2011 11:07 PM, thanatoid wrote:
1.

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw
there is no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid
start menu. I can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't
figure out how to do it, so I can't get rid of it on my
98SEL machine.

Does anyone know how?

Isn't that option in the control panel under power
options?


Not on this machine. I have "power management" and this
particular setting is nowhere to be found. Sigh.





Than have a look in the bios under the power management settings
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Old November 2nd 11, 01:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

thanatoid wrote:

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw there is
no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid start menu.


I've never seen "Suspend" in the start menu on any win-98 machine. I
assume it's located near the very bottom of the start menu, next to Shut
Down or Log Off (user).

BTW, I just discovered the most incredible taskbar-replacement
tool ever. It's Windows PowerPro


What does it do that the regular taskbar doesn't do?
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Old November 2nd 11, 04:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

thanatoid wrote in
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I have been hacking things recently with Resource Tuner - I
prefer it to Res. Hacker. It drives me nuts that neither will
hack 16bit exes.



Thanks, I'll try that. I know ResHack, and ExeScope, but no others except a
small widget that auto-raids all resources and dumps them in a directory.

Some tools let me change static attributes of dialog windows which is nice,
but I haven't seen any that will let me do that to a frame, to override main
window size, placement, etc. I don't know why they can do it for many dialogs
even when the main window IS a dialog, but never the main frame for standard
GUI programs.

I do have binaries access....
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Old November 2nd 11, 05:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

thanatoid wrote in
:

I was playing around with my Win95B machine and I saw there is
no more-than-useless "suspend" item on the stupid start menu. I
can't remember how I got rid of it, I can't figure out how to do
it, so I can't get rid of it on my 98SEL machine.


About that, I've done some exploring on my X98 installs. It doesn't exist in
Core. It exists in Inst (auto hardware install module), and actually works
reliably in an install this clean. There are only 4 ClassID's in CLSID and I
set those up manually so I know what they're for, it's not a ClassId thing
unless some new one added in ACPI under CurrentControlSet and Enum parts of
the registry during hardware setup. Nor does 'Suspend' appear in registry,
but you already knew that, no doubt from a much bigger registry too.. It
didn't have anythign to do with Powercfg.cpl, which I may leave out of Inst,
instead using preset reg settings to override all auto-power off stuff.

I wanted the power config stuff in the Inst module, and haven;t fully settled
what goes in and what doesn't, nut current three files go in manually:
POWERCFG.CPL
PWRPROF.DLL (Not least because SYSTRAY.EXE needs it).
VPOWERD.VXD (Statically loaded device driver to connect BIOS and Windows for
power configs)
Another file, POWER.DRV, is fetched from the W98 install files by Inst during
hardware setup. I think it's a dynamically loaded couterpart to the VXD.

For the moment, I'm not sure how the 'Suspend' menu entry and behaviour can
be eliminated, but there doesn't seem to be any simple default omission, the
moment you set up hardware, it's there, unless maybe the machine had ACPI
stuff disabled in BIOS at install time. There may still be some ADDED
registry switch to disable it specifically, but I don't know of one.

Out of curiosity, on the machine where Suspend does NOT appear, what other
aspects of standard power control do also not appear there?
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Old November 2nd 11, 10:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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Default 1. how to get rid of "suspend" 2. a GREAT utility (no, not for IE)

philo wrote in
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On 11/02/2011 02:49 AM, thanatoid wrote:


snip

Not on this machine. I have "power management" and this
particular setting is nowhere to be found. Sigh.


Than have a look in the bios under the power management
settings


It's always been off in thanatoid world®, since 1995 - so
"suspend" should not show up. But maybe it isn't off ;-)

I'll check - thanks for your replies.



--
"Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at
it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named
Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found
out that you had already stolen it."
Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983
 




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