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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
This was originally posted on the Windows Me NG, but is now posted on here at
the kind suggestion of Mike Maltby. I have summarised the problem - I have a laptop running ME and am trying to connect to my Orange Broadband Router (using wireless) without success. I have no trouble with connecting wireless to the Router with my desktop PC running XP using a Sweex USB dongle, but using the same dongle on my laptop doesn't work. I have also tried a Motorola PCMCIA card on my laptop without success. Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key several times. I have also tried temporarily removing all WPA / WEP security from the router, but this hasn't allowed connection (it is currently re-set to "WPA Only" - the default). I can confirm that the drivers and utilities have been installed for both devices and I have used the respective utilities to enter the WEP key, etc. My router is a proprietary one from Orange (called an Orange Livebox), so I can't easily identify it, but the firmware is INVENTEL v5.10. I have tried Pinging the router's IP address, but it says "Destination host unreachable". Typing WinIPCfg tells me my Host Name, but the DNS Server is blank. The Node Type is Broadcast, but the other Host Information is blank. The Ethernet Adapter Information gives me an Adapter Address, but the IP Address says "Media Disconnected". The Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, etc are blank. I cannot find anything about MAC on the router settings, but DHCP is enabled. Thanks for any assistance, Robin |
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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple
experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. Mart "Robin CB" wrote in message ... This was originally posted on the Windows Me NG, but is now posted on here at the kind suggestion of Mike Maltby. I have summarised the problem - I have a laptop running ME and am trying to connect to my Orange Broadband Router (using wireless) without success. I have no trouble with connecting wireless to the Router with my desktop PC running XP using a Sweex USB dongle, but using the same dongle on my laptop doesn't work. I have also tried a Motorola PCMCIA card on my laptop without success. Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key several times. I have also tried temporarily removing all WPA / WEP security from the router, but this hasn't allowed connection (it is currently re-set to "WPA Only" - the default). I can confirm that the drivers and utilities have been installed for both devices and I have used the respective utilities to enter the WEP key, etc. My router is a proprietary one from Orange (called an Orange Livebox), so I can't easily identify it, but the firmware is INVENTEL v5.10. I have tried Pinging the router's IP address, but it says "Destination host unreachable". Typing WinIPCfg tells me my Host Name, but the DNS Server is blank. The Node Type is Broadcast, but the other Host Information is blank. The Ethernet Adapter Information gives me an Adapter Address, but the IP Address says "Media Disconnected". The Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, etc are blank. I cannot find anything about MAC on the router settings, but DHCP is enabled. Thanks for any assistance, Robin |
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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
Mart wrote:
I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact this is perhaps one of its better implemented features. Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem. -- Mike Maltby |
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Can't add much more Mike, as once I got them to be re-recognised, I was just
happy that they worked and moved on g Should have documented the detail, I suppose but now work from the 'lesson learnt' and if/when it happens again, I'll just go thru' 'delete' procedure and hope it remains successful. (Having other issues with BT Broadband - it keeps failing. Proved it clear of home - twice - so I'm living with Dial-up Pay & Go. Bl**dy Slow!!) Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart wrote: I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact this is perhaps one of its better implemented features. Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem. -- Mike Maltby |
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Mart wrote:
Can't add much more Mike, as once I got them to be re-recognised, I was just happy that they worked and moved on g Should have documented the detail, I suppose but now work from the 'lesson learnt' and if/when it happens again, I'll just go thru' 'delete' procedure and hope it remains successful. (Having other issues with BT Broadband - it keeps failing. Proved it clear of home - twice - so I'm living with Dial-up Pay & Go. Bl**dy Slow!!) You really DO have my sympathies Mart. When I had my 10 weeks of comms hell earlier this year it was that for nearly all of that time that I still had a good ADSL connection that kept me going. Skype got me round the lack of a phone plus eventually getting a mobile. If, on the other hand, it had been loss of ADSL I don't know what I would have done (well I do actually, it would have been Be There here I come) as having to use dial-up for more than a few minutes is now so painful. Such memories, £300+ per quarter phone bills, virtually all of which was for off-peak PAYG dialup, until I managed to discover Screaming that included free dial-up, but even then ADSL didn't come a day too soon. Hope you get your problem fixed "real soon". In the meantime do you perhaps have a kindly neighbour who will let you connect via wi-fi? Cheers, Mike |
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Thanks Guys,
I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in addition to my main XP machine) and removed them. I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though. Robin "Mike M" wrote: Mart wrote: I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact this is perhaps one of its better implemented features. Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem. -- Mike Maltby |
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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
Oh the memories, makes me cringe to think about it and so glad a certain
mister and his accomplice (now I wonder who that could be I think his initials were MM & NP) finally talked me into going broadband. I know the pain on the odd occasion I've had to do dial-up for my Tesco shop when the ADSL was down g Joan -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart wrote: Can't add much more Mike, as once I got them to be re-recognised, I was just happy that they worked and moved on g Should have documented the detail, I suppose but now work from the 'lesson learnt' and if/when it happens again, I'll just go thru' 'delete' procedure and hope it remains successful. (Having other issues with BT Broadband - it keeps failing. Proved it clear of home - twice - so I'm living with Dial-up Pay & Go. Bl**dy Slow!!) You really DO have my sympathies Mart. When I had my 10 weeks of comms hell earlier this year it was that for nearly all of that time that I still had a good ADSL connection that kept me going. Skype got me round the lack of a phone plus eventually getting a mobile. If, on the other hand, it had been loss of ADSL I don't know what I would have done (well I do actually, it would have been Be There here I come) as having to use dial-up for more than a few minutes is now so painful. Such memories, £300+ per quarter phone bills, virtually all of which was for off-peak PAYG dialup, until I managed to discover Screaming that included free dial-up, but even then ADSL didn't come a day too soon. Hope you get your problem fixed "real soon". In the meantime do you perhaps have a kindly neighbour who will let you connect via wi-fi? Cheers, Mike |
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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
Sorry it was unsuccessful Robin. As I said, I'm not really into Networking,
but it had to be worth a try. Good luck Mart "Robin CB" wrote in message ... Thanks Guys, I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in addition to my main XP machine) and removed them. I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though. Robin "Mike M" wrote: Mart wrote: I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact this is perhaps one of its better implemented features. Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem. -- Mike Maltby |
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Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect
Mart / Mike,
Thanks for your help guys. I came to this forum having had a frustrating experience with the Orange Helpline with responses like " it must be trouble with your dongle / PCICMA card - you need to talk to the manufacturer". I tried the Orange e-mail support yesterday (with a summary of all of our investigations / trials) and got the following reply: quote Thank you for your email. We understand your concern. You cannot have a wireless connection with Livebox for Windows ME, however you can have a wired connection with it. You can follow the link below for more help on wired connection: http://help.orange.co.uk/sessionBegi...utionId=kb4645 If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. Kind Regards /quote I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this contract expires. Thanks, Robin "Mart" wrote: Sorry it was unsuccessful Robin. As I said, I'm not really into Networking, but it had to be worth a try. Good luck Mart "Robin CB" wrote in message ... Thanks Guys, I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in addition to my main XP machine) and removed them. I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though. Robin "Mike M" wrote: Mart wrote: I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another, like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands. I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again. I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses. Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck. An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact this is perhaps one of its better implemented features. Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem. -- Mike Maltby |
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