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  #11  
Old February 22nd 06, 05:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

Yup, set to default. i even tried setting it to CDROM as the first in line,
but to no avail.

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Go into the BIOS setup and make sure the boot sequence is set
properly. I don't know if the CD that came with the disk is bootable.
If not, set the boot sequence to "A:,C:". Be sure to save the change
when exiting.

Ben
..
"Chuck" wrote in message ...
It came with a CD, but the PC won't get past the initial memory check. This
is a brand new blank drive, and there is not other drive in the PC. The one I
had was bad, and this is a replacement. It won't even boot with the Startup
disk so I can get CDROM support.
???

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Seagate has installation tools available for download.

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/...s/discwiz.html

Ben

"Chuck" wrote in message ...
I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII 333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD. After a couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up from the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even boot from my
Windows staretup disk.
I have all the BIOS settings as per the instructions with the drive. BUT,
when I try to get the PC to auto-detect the HDD, it stalls at "Auto-detecting
new primary master" and that's it. I can't even back out of it; it completely
freezes and I have to power the PC off.
Any ideas?
Thanks. :-|


  #12  
Old February 22nd 06, 05:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

Not necessarily the easiest way, but the simplest is to put the drives into
a known-good machine and check 'em out.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Could be. No idea how to check. My PC won't complete a boot with the old

HDD.
Powers up OK tho'.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

So maybe it wasn't the HDD that went bad, but rather the controller? Or
perhaps the power isn't good and that caused the old drive to go bad and
prevents the new one from behaving?

Just thinking out loud...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
It came with a CD, but the PC won't get past the initial memory check.

This
is a brand new blank drive, and there is not other drive in the PC.

The
one I
had was bad, and this is a replacement. It won't even boot with the

Startup
disk so I can get CDROM support.
???

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Seagate has installation tools available for download.

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/...s/discwiz.html

Ben

"Chuck" wrote in message

...
I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII

333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD.

After a
couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up

from
the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even

boot
from my
Windows staretup disk.
I have all the BIOS settings as per the instructions with the

drive.
BUT,
when I try to get the PC to auto-detect the HDD, it stalls at

"Auto-detecting
new primary master" and that's it. I can't even back out of it; it

completely
freezes and I have to power the PC off.
Any ideas?
Thanks. :-|






  #13  
Old February 22nd 06, 06:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

Without any HDD attached at all, will it boot to a floppy startup disk? BIOS
upgrades are usually performed using a floppy disk boot.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I think it's an ASUS board. But even if one exists, how do I install it

w/o
the ability to boot up?

"Steven" wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:45:27 -0800, "Chuck"
wrote:

I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII

333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD. After a

couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up from

the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even boot

from my
Windows staretup disk.


Older Award BIOSes have a disk size limit. It used to be 34GB and then
65GB. If such a BIOS tries to detect a larger disk it aborts with a
division overflow.

Can you check if there is a BIOS update available ? Check the mainboard
manufacturer's site.

--
Steven



  #14  
Old February 22nd 06, 06:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

Nope. All I get is the initial memory test (HIMEM, etc) and that's it. The
floppy drive buzzes and whatnot, but I get nothing.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Without any HDD attached at all, will it boot to a floppy startup disk? BIOS
upgrades are usually performed using a floppy disk boot.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I think it's an ASUS board. But even if one exists, how do I install it

w/o
the ability to boot up?

"Steven" wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:45:27 -0800, "Chuck"
wrote:

I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII

333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD. After a

couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up from

the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even boot

from my
Windows staretup disk.

Older Award BIOSes have a disk size limit. It used to be 34GB and then
65GB. If such a BIOS tries to detect a larger disk it aborts with a
division overflow.

Can you check if there is a BIOS update available ? Check the mainboard
manufacturer's site.

--
Steven




  #15  
Old February 22nd 06, 09:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

Open the case and remove and reseat the memory modules. If this doesn't
help, try creating a new boot floppy.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Ben

"Chuck" wrote in message ...
Yup, set to default. i even tried setting it to CDROM as the first in line,
but to no avail.

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Go into the BIOS setup and make sure the boot sequence is set
properly. I don't know if the CD that came with the disk is bootable.
If not, set the boot sequence to "A:,C:". Be sure to save the change
when exiting.

Ben
..
"Chuck" wrote in message ...
It came with a CD, but the PC won't get past the initial memory check. This
is a brand new blank drive, and there is not other drive in the PC. The one I
had was bad, and this is a replacement. It won't even boot with the Startup
disk so I can get CDROM support.
???

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Seagate has installation tools available for download.

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/...s/discwiz.html

Ben

"Chuck" wrote in message ...
I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII 333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD. After a couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up from the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even boot from my
Windows staretup disk.
I have all the BIOS settings as per the instructions with the drive. BUT,
when I try to get the PC to auto-detect the HDD, it stalls at "Auto-detecting
new primary master" and that's it. I can't even back out of it; it completely
freezes and I have to power the PC off.
Any ideas?
Thanks. :-|


  #16  
Old February 22nd 06, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:17:30 -0800, "Chuck"
wrote:

Nope. All I get is the initial memory test (HIMEM, etc) and that's it. The
floppy drive buzzes and whatnot, but I get nothing.


If you start the PC with no HDD can you press DEL and get the BIOS setup
menu ? In the BIOS options you can tell it to ignore an HDD by setting
the drive type to 'none'. This should be the same as physically
removing the new HDD. Will Win98 start now ?

To update the BIOS you will need to make a DOS boot floppy and then get
the BIOS file and a flash program from the ASUS site. The site also has
instructions. Hopefully the BIOS date will be after Sept 2000 and/or
the notes will mention 'overcomes 75GB limit'.

What is the actual product ID of your motherboard ?

--
Steven
  #17  
Old February 22nd 06, 10:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.disks.general
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Default HDD install not detected

If you can't even boot to the floppy disk when no HDD is present... Sounds
like it accesses the floppy but can't actually read it, or it can read it
but can't process the info sufficiently to prompt a boot... I dunno, sounds
to me like your motherboard is the problem. I forget, have you tried these
HDDs in a different system? And, are you certain the floppy disk you used
will boot a healthy machine?

I know it sounds like a drudge, but being very methodical and complete is
the only way to track down the culprit for sure.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Nope. All I get is the initial memory test (HIMEM, etc) and that's it. The
floppy drive buzzes and whatnot, but I get nothing.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Without any HDD attached at all, will it boot to a floppy startup disk?

BIOS
upgrades are usually performed using a floppy disk boot.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I think it's an ASUS board. But even if one exists, how do I install

it
w/o
the ability to boot up?

"Steven" wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:45:27 -0800, "Chuck"
wrote:

I am trying to install a new replacement HDD in my boy's PC (PIII

333MHz,
Win98--yeah, it's old). I have a Seagate 80GB replacement HDD.

After a
couple
of tries and some cable swaps, I got the machine to boot back up

from
the
motherboard, but it will not detect the new HDD. It won't even boot

from my
Windows staretup disk.

Older Award BIOSes have a disk size limit. It used to be 34GB and

then
65GB. If such a BIOS tries to detect a larger disk it aborts with a
division overflow.

Can you check if there is a BIOS update available ? Check the

mainboard
manufacturer's site.

--
Steven






 




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