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Old May 21st 10, 04:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
HenriK
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Default Loading Chipset Drivers

As this group seems to be still working, can anyone help me solve a
driver loading problem?

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.

Anyway, if this query is visible to anyone, I would really appreciate
some step-by-step guidance on how to proceed or pointers to a discussion
group or other web site that might help me. Thank you, in advance, for
any and all assistance.

  #2  
Old May 21st 10, 07:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Don Phillipson[_5_]
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Posts: 440
Default Loading Chipset Drivers


"HenriK" wrote in message
...
As this group seems to be still working, can anyone help me solve a
driver loading problem?

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.

Anyway, if this query is visible to anyone, I would really appreciate
some step-by-step guidance on how to proceed or pointers to a discussion
group or other web site that might help me. Thank you, in advance, for
any and all assistance.


For Win2000 and later Intel offers driver detection on line at
http://www.intel.com/support/detect....dr+help_detect
For Win98 Intel offers four drivers for the 845 chipset at
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...+chipset+ %22
(two for graphics, two for CPU)
E.g. instructions at
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/4857/eng/readme.txt
for the Application Accelerator say simply
"1. The operating system and the Intel(R) Chipset Software
Installation Utility must be installed on the system
prior to installation.
2. Click on the self-extracting and self-installing setup
file and answer all prompts presented.
3. You will be prompted to reboot when installation is
complete."

For the DIM 4500 under MS-DOS, Dell offers at
http://support.dell.com/support/down...onsen t=False
only BIOS update drivers (to be installed from a DOS prompt.) All other
uploads
are for system diagnostics.
(The DIM 4500 was designed to run WinXP or Vista).

It is not clear whether you installed Win98 OK. If installation
failed, it is not clear why you think new chipset drivers will
help. Post results here whether you succeed or not in what
you want to do.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



  #3  
Old May 21st 10, 07:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Don Phillipson[_5_]
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Posts: 440
Default Loading Chipset Drivers


"HenriK" wrote in message
...
As this group seems to be still working, can anyone help me solve a
driver loading problem?

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.

Anyway, if this query is visible to anyone, I would really appreciate
some step-by-step guidance on how to proceed or pointers to a discussion
group or other web site that might help me. Thank you, in advance, for
any and all assistance.


For Win2000 and later Intel offers driver detection on line at
http://www.intel.com/support/detect....dr+help_detect
For Win98 Intel offers four drivers for the 845 chipset at
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...+chipset+ %22
(two for graphics, two for CPU)
E.g. instructions at
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/4857/eng/readme.txt
for the Application Accelerator say simply
"1. The operating system and the Intel(R) Chipset Software
Installation Utility must be installed on the system
prior to installation.
2. Click on the self-extracting and self-installing setup
file and answer all prompts presented.
3. You will be prompted to reboot when installation is
complete."

For the DIM 4500 under MS-DOS, Dell offers at
http://support.dell.com/support/down...onsen t=False
only BIOS update drivers (to be installed from a DOS prompt.) All other
uploads
are for system diagnostics.
(The DIM 4500 was designed to run WinXP or Vista).

It is not clear whether you installed Win98 OK. If installation
failed, it is not clear why you think new chipset drivers will
help. Post results here whether you succeed or not in what
you want to do.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



  #4  
Old May 21st 10, 09:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo[_31_]
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Posts: 236
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

On 05/21/2010 10:30 AM, HenriK wrote:
As this group seems to be still working, can anyone help me solve a
driver loading problem?

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.

Anyway, if this query is visible to anyone, I would really appreciate
some step-by-step guidance on how to proceed or pointers to a discussion
group or other web site that might help me. Thank you, in advance, for
any and all assistance.




You will specifically need to load win98 drivers if they are avail

Otherwise you may just want to run win98 in a virtual machine within XP


Before you go through all that...have you tried the software in XP
using the win98 compatibility setting?


Finally: even without the proper chipset drivers your win98 installation
may very well be perfectly usable for the app you need to run
they could possibly be for non critical components


You can just let the "wizard" run to completion
and opt not to show the messages again
  #5  
Old May 21st 10, 09:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo[_31_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 236
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

On 05/21/2010 10:30 AM, HenriK wrote:
As this group seems to be still working, can anyone help me solve a
driver loading problem?

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.

Anyway, if this query is visible to anyone, I would really appreciate
some step-by-step guidance on how to proceed or pointers to a discussion
group or other web site that might help me. Thank you, in advance, for
any and all assistance.




You will specifically need to load win98 drivers if they are avail

Otherwise you may just want to run win98 in a virtual machine within XP


Before you go through all that...have you tried the software in XP
using the win98 compatibility setting?


Finally: even without the proper chipset drivers your win98 installation
may very well be perfectly usable for the app you need to run
they could possibly be for non critical components


You can just let the "wizard" run to completion
and opt not to show the messages again
  #6  
Old May 21st 10, 11:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Franc Zabkar
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Posts: 1,702
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:30:59 -0400, HenriK put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.


Can you give us links to the drivers?

If the EXEs are self extracting archives, then they will unpack
themselves, probably into a TEMP directory. Otherwise you could
examine them with Winzip or 7-Zip.

There is also this Universal Extractor:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract

When you install drivers, Windows looks for an appropriate INF file.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.


How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us

PCI Vendor and Device Lists:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/

You can also retrieve PCI device info (eg vendor and device IDs) using
PCItree:
http://www.pcitree.de/

Alternatively, try running msinfo32.exe.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
  #7  
Old May 21st 10, 11:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Franc Zabkar
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Posts: 1,702
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:30:59 -0400, HenriK put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.


Can you give us links to the drivers?

If the EXEs are self extracting archives, then they will unpack
themselves, probably into a TEMP directory. Otherwise you could
examine them with Winzip or 7-Zip.

There is also this Universal Extractor:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract

When you install drivers, Windows looks for an appropriate INF file.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.


How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us

PCI Vendor and Device Lists:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/

You can also retrieve PCI device info (eg vendor and device IDs) using
PCItree:
http://www.pcitree.de/

Alternatively, try running msinfo32.exe.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
  #8  
Old May 22nd 10, 06:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Posts: 1,089
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:30:59 -0400, HenriK put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.


Can you give us links to the drivers?

If the EXEs are self extracting archives, then they will unpack
themselves, probably into a TEMP directory. Otherwise you could
examine them with Winzip or 7-Zip.

There is also this Universal Extractor:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract

When you install drivers, Windows looks for an appropriate INF file.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.


How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us

PCI Vendor and Device Lists:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/

You can also retrieve PCI device info (eg vendor and device IDs) using
PCItree:
http://www.pcitree.de/

Alternatively, try running msinfo32.exe.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
.


Frank, I tried accessing that Microsoft kb support article to read up on it
myself and it appears to have been removed. :-
  #9  
Old May 22nd 10, 06:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Posts: 1,089
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:30:59 -0400, HenriK put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have a 1.8 gHz P4, Dell Dimension 4500, into which I have loaded a new
copy of W98SE (so I can run some ancient software that doesn't run
properly on my XP machine, a completely different PC). I have both the
original Dell driver disk for the 4500 as well as having downloaded the
4500's Intel 845 chipset drivers directly from Intel's website.

The drivers don't load by simply running the W98SE .exe files on the
Dell disk or that I downloaded from Intel. In addition, I don't
understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for getting drivers extracted
from the Dell and Intel .exe files and suspect that the drivers aren't,
in fact, loadable from the Dell or Intel .exe file. Again, though, I
don't understand Dell's and Intel's instructions for extracting the
chipset drivers from their respective .exe files and getting them onto a
floppy and may be making a simple, beginner's, error.


Can you give us links to the drivers?

If the EXEs are self extracting archives, then they will unpack
themselves, probably into a TEMP directory. Otherwise you could
examine them with Winzip or 7-Zip.

There is also this Universal Extractor:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract

When you install drivers, Windows looks for an appropriate INF file.

Although W98SE seems to be working, W98SE keeps looking for me to
install some PCI drivers and shows four yellow question marks in Control
Panel's Device Manager window.


How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us

PCI Vendor and Device Lists:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/

You can also retrieve PCI device info (eg vendor and device IDs) using
PCItree:
http://www.pcitree.de/

Alternatively, try running msinfo32.exe.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
.


Frank, I tried accessing that Microsoft kb support article to read up on it
myself and it appears to have been removed. :-
  #10  
Old May 22nd 10, 08:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Franc Zabkar
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Posts: 1,702
Default Loading Chipset Drivers

On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:51:01 -0700, Dan
put finger to keyboard and composed:

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:


How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us


Frank, I tried accessing that Microsoft kb support article to read up on it
myself and it appears to have been removed. :-


Here it is in German:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/de

Strangely, if you try the dropdown list under SPRACHE AUSWÄHLEN, there
is no English language option.

Anyway, here is Google's translation:
http://translate.google.com/translat...de&sl=de&tl=en

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 




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