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  #11  
Old May 1st 08, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mart
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%. I'm
pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted your
problem.

However, I found the following (a few years old) which might be of
interest - and wondered if Robbain might have been you?
http://forum.caithness.org/archive/i...p/t-15902.html

Mart



"Robin CB" wrote in message
...
Mart / Mike,

Thanks for your help guys.

I came to this forum having had a frustrating experience with the Orange
Helpline with responses like " it must be trouble with your dongle /
PCICMA
card - you need to talk to the manufacturer".

I tried the Orange e-mail support yesterday (with a summary of all of our
investigations / trials) and got the following reply:


quote


Thank you for your email.

We understand your concern.

You cannot have a wireless connection with Livebox for Windows ME,
however you can have a wired connection with it.

You can follow the link below for more help on wired connection:

http://help.orange.co.uk/sessionBegi...utionId=kb4645

If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in
contact with us again.

Kind Regards

/quote


I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
contract
expires.

Thanks,

Robin


"Mart" wrote:

Sorry it was unsuccessful Robin. As I said, I'm not really into
Networking,
but it had to be worth a try.

Good luck

Mart



"Robin CB" wrote in message
...
Thanks Guys,

I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in
addition
to
my main XP machine) and removed them.

I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though.

Robin


"Mike M" wrote:

Mart wrote:

I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a
couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if
a
working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another,
like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands.

I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of
(previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of
the
Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the
dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again.

I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something
to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All
other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses.

Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck.

An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from
my
own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later
firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history
of
all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in
the
case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In
fact
this is perhaps one of its better implemented features.

Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem.
--
Mike Maltby









  #12  
Old May 1st 08, 07:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Robin CB
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Thanks Mike,

Much appreciated.

I must say that my expoerience with Orange hasn't always been like this -
when I first set up my XP PC last summer I had a minor issue connecting, but
the helpline were actually rally helpful. I don't know what has happened,
but two calls this week and the e-mail are much more consistent with the
comments on the link you posted. A real disappointment.

Anyway - lets hope the e-mail is wrong and Steve can magic a solution.

Cheers,

Robin


"Mike M" wrote:

Robin,

Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.

I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
contract expires.


Have a look at ThnikBroaband for UK ADSL suggestions. As for Orange I
can't help but note the various negative comments about their service
posted in response to the article "Orange Broadband sales drop by half "
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/i/3527.html) such as "Worst provider I
have ever been with. Regular problems, diabolically useless 'customer
service' and slow connection." (weasle).
--
Mike Maltby




  #13  
Old May 1st 08, 07:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Robin CB
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Hi Mart,

I'm hoping too :-)

Interesting article that you linked to - not me I'm afraid. I was a late
convert to Broadband - still on dialup until last summer.

The link to Orange seems to be working now - not that it helps (or tells
you) much.

Cheers,

Robin


"Mart" wrote:

Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%. I'm
pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted your
problem.

However, I found the following (a few years old) which might be of
interest - and wondered if Robbain might have been you?
http://forum.caithness.org/archive/i...p/t-15902.html

Mart



  #14  
Old May 1st 08, 07:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Steve Winograd
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:50:57 +0100, "Mike M"
wrote:

Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.


Hi Robin and Mike,

I've been following this thread, but I hadn't jumped in because I
don't know what's wrong or how to fix it.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
  #15  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mart
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Well, sadly the responses aren't too helpful so far Robin, so just a couple
of further thoughts. Are you able to connect your laptop to another wireless
router rather than your Orange Router (a friends for example)?

And - another link g "troubleshoot a problem with your 121g wireless
adaptor"
http://help.orange.co.uk/documentDisplay.do?clusterName=DefaultCluster&prev iew=1&groupId=1&page=&docType=1006&resultType=5002 &docProp=$solution_id&docPropValue=kb8173
Note the lines regarding "issues" with Win9x and further down the page that
they are referring to a Livebox. Relevant?

I also (fairly recently) saw somewhere a reference to an MS KB article
regarding issues with Wifi adapters (USB 2.0?) and WinMe, but can no longer
locate the reference. Might be worth a trawl thru' the KB - or even Google.
Good luck

Mart


"Robin CB" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,

I'm hoping too :-)

Interesting article that you linked to - not me I'm afraid. I was a late
convert to Broadband - still on dialup until last summer.

The link to Orange seems to be working now - not that it helps (or tells
you) much.

Cheers,

Robin


"Mart" wrote:

Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%.
I'm
pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted
your
problem.

However, I found the following (a few years old) which might be of
interest - and wondered if Robbain might have been you?
http://forum.caithness.org/archive/i...p/t-15902.html

Mart





  #16  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Robin CB
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Steve,

Thanks for jumping in. Mike says you're the man, so I guess we have to
believe Orange when they say the Livebox won't work with Me.

Time to re-think, I think.

Cheers,

Robin


"Steve Winograd" wrote:

On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:50:57 +0100, "Mike M"
wrote:

Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.


Hi Robin and Mike,

I've been following this thread, but I hadn't jumped in because I
don't know what's wrong or how to fix it.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

  #17  
Old May 2nd 08, 09:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Robin CB
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Default Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect

Thanks Mart,

An interesting article - pretty much covers my problem.

I went through the routine again - Press button 1, etc, but the same result.

I will pop round to a friends over the weekend and try with his router.

Cheers,

Robin



"Mart" wrote:

Well, sadly the responses aren't too helpful so far Robin, so just a couple
of further thoughts. Are you able to connect your laptop to another wireless
router rather than your Orange Router (a friends for example)?

And - another link g "troubleshoot a problem with your 121g wireless
adaptor"
http://help.orange.co.uk/documentDisplay.do?clusterName=DefaultCluster&prev iew=1&groupId=1&page=&docType=1006&resultType=5002 &docProp=$solution_id&docPropValue=kb8173
Note the lines regarding "issues" with Win9x and further down the page that
they are referring to a Livebox. Relevant?

I also (fairly recently) saw somewhere a reference to an MS KB article
regarding issues with Wifi adapters (USB 2.0?) and WinMe, but can no longer
locate the reference. Might be worth a trawl thru' the KB - or even Google.
Good luck

Mart


 




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