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I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is
often the fundamental answer to such problems. You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack? I didn't have problems with NAV 2000/2001. I accept, however, that on many machines those builds of Symantec product did cause problems. I think you could call it user error when comes to problems using Live Update, as IMO leaving it to *someone else* to update one's AV is in itself a *user error* (although only akin to feeling safe on the streets because one believes a policeman will always show up when required, ie one that the establishment encourages), but the mess left when attempting a standard uninstallation of the program, for instance, is poor programming pure and simple. A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the internet community. Yes Jack. I use Kerio. It requires more knowledge of firewalls than ZoneAlarm, although it can (these days) be run in newb mode. Shane |
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" You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack?"
I have obviously been unclear. You should know that I know you are a very knowledgeable user, unlikely to make any typical newbie user error. I never intended to imply that you did. Others, reading here, may have (and often do). I also run NAV, the 2004 Pro version, here just as a test of the often reported errors. I do not have them either, excepting the well-recognized problem if one reverts using SR to an earlier date prior to the last signature update. I think everyone experiences that since it is a failing of NAV, IMO. I would rather that my AV tool not write to the registry. Sorry for not realizing how you might misunderstand my comments, and apologize for them. I don't have any facial expressions or tone of voice here to help convey my meaning, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is often the fundamental answer to such problems. You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack? I didn't have problems with NAV 2000/2001. I accept, however, that on many machines those builds of Symantec product did cause problems. I think you could call it user error when comes to problems using Live Update, as IMO leaving it to *someone else* to update one's AV is in itself a *user error* (although only akin to feeling safe on the streets because one believes a policeman will always show up when required, ie one that the establishment encourages), but the mess left when attempting a standard uninstallation of the program, for instance, is poor programming pure and simple. A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the internet community. Yes Jack. I use Kerio. It requires more knowledge of firewalls than ZoneAlarm, although it can (these days) be run in newb mode. Shane |
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OK Jack, no problem. My response probably read as less tongue-in-cheek than
was meant anyway and - besides trying to keep the emoticons and related abbreviations to a minimum generally - I'm probably guilty of typing under the influence of too much coffee! So I'm sorry for that. I'm surprised you don't have more trouble with NAV 2004. I presume you disable much from starting. My father's machine *starts* with less than 50% resources (but he won't listen to me and disable anything!). Anyway, I'll accept your apology if you'll accept mine. Shane "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... " You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack?" I have obviously been unclear. You should know that I know you are a very knowledgeable user, unlikely to make any typical newbie user error. I never intended to imply that you did. Others, reading here, may have (and often do). I also run NAV, the 2004 Pro version, here just as a test of the often reported errors. I do not have them either, excepting the well-recognized problem if one reverts using SR to an earlier date prior to the last signature update. I think everyone experiences that since it is a failing of NAV, IMO. I would rather that my AV tool not write to the registry. Sorry for not realizing how you might misunderstand my comments, and apologize for them. I don't have any facial expressions or tone of voice here to help convey my meaning, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is often the fundamental answer to such problems. You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack? I didn't have problems with NAV 2000/2001. I accept, however, that on many machines those builds of Symantec product did cause problems. I think you could call it user error when comes to problems using Live Update, as IMO leaving it to *someone else* to update one's AV is in itself a *user error* (although only akin to feeling safe on the streets because one believes a policeman will always show up when required, ie one that the establishment encourages), but the mess left when attempting a standard uninstallation of the program, for instance, is poor programming pure and simple. A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the internet community. Yes Jack. I use Kerio. It requires more knowledge of firewalls than ZoneAlarm, although it can (these days) be run in newb mode. Shane |
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Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there.
Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Thanks for the wink, Shane. Harry. "Shane" wrote in message ... Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there. Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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I'll certainly accept your apology, which I think is entirely unnecessary,
as I have never felt to be offended by you, nor that you have impugned others here, and I do run a very lean machine for this WinME testbed. As we speak, user resources here are at 43% and GDI at 68%, after several hours in this session. Not atypical. We must meet if I get to England anytime soon. What a party it will be! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... OK Jack, no problem. My response probably read as less tongue-in-cheek than was meant anyway and - besides trying to keep the emoticons and related abbreviations to a minimum generally - I'm probably guilty of typing under the influence of too much coffee! So I'm sorry for that. I'm surprised you don't have more trouble with NAV 2004. I presume you disable much from starting. My father's machine *starts* with less than 50% resources (but he won't listen to me and disable anything!). Anyway, I'll accept your apology if you'll accept mine. Shane "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... " You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack?" I have obviously been unclear. You should know that I know you are a very knowledgeable user, unlikely to make any typical newbie user error. I never intended to imply that you did. Others, reading here, may have (and often do). I also run NAV, the 2004 Pro version, here just as a test of the often reported errors. I do not have them either, excepting the well-recognized problem if one reverts using SR to an earlier date prior to the last signature update. I think everyone experiences that since it is a failing of NAV, IMO. I would rather that my AV tool not write to the registry. Sorry for not realizing how you might misunderstand my comments, and apologize for them. I don't have any facial expressions or tone of voice here to help convey my meaning, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is often the fundamental answer to such problems. You think I don't know how to run Zone Alarm, Jack? I didn't have problems with NAV 2000/2001. I accept, however, that on many machines those builds of Symantec product did cause problems. I think you could call it user error when comes to problems using Live Update, as IMO leaving it to *someone else* to update one's AV is in itself a *user error* (although only akin to feeling safe on the streets because one believes a policeman will always show up when required, ie one that the establishment encourages), but the mess left when attempting a standard uninstallation of the program, for instance, is poor programming pure and simple. A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the internet community. Yes Jack. I use Kerio. It requires more knowledge of firewalls than ZoneAlarm, although it can (these days) be run in newb mode. Shane |
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And what does/did Process Explorer report about Sygate's cpu usage? Or
Resource Meter's report vis a vis Kerio and Sygate? -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there. Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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NP Harry.
Shane "webster72n" wrote in message ... Thanks for the wink, Shane. Harry. "Shane" wrote in message ... Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there. Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Just going on Resource Meter, Jack. My typical starting level has been
80's/90's - even back in the NAV days. Lately it was down to 50's/60's. With Kerio 4.1.2 instead it seems to be 10 - 15 percentage points higher - so is still below what it's been most of the time since Nov 2000. I suspect that the move from AVG 6 to 7 has seen an increased drain on resources but that, as with NAV (IMO), these progs are now being written for systems without resource issues and there's little to be done about it. I almost never boot ME anymore - I only really keep it on there because I like another bootable volume available as emergency backup (and prefer ME to 98se!). But I may re-install SPF to make more definitive measurements. Shane "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... And what does/did Process Explorer report about Sygate's cpu usage? Or Resource Meter's report vis a vis Kerio and Sygate? -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there. Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Those are very respectable Win9X resource levels.
A 10-15% difference is quite a lot. Easy enough to see by examining levels both before and after launching an app. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... Just going on Resource Meter, Jack. My typical starting level has been 80's/90's - even back in the NAV days. Lately it was down to 50's/60's. With Kerio 4.1.2 instead it seems to be 10 - 15 percentage points higher - so is still below what it's been most of the time since Nov 2000. I suspect that the move from AVG 6 to 7 has seen an increased drain on resources but that, as with NAV (IMO), these progs are now being written for systems without resource issues and there's little to be done about it. I almost never boot ME anymore - I only really keep it on there because I like another bootable volume available as emergency backup (and prefer ME to 98se!). But I may re-install SPF to make more definitive measurements. Shane "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... And what does/did Process Explorer report about Sygate's cpu usage? Or Resource Meter's report vis a vis Kerio and Sygate? -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there. Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems something of a resource hog. Shane "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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