Is it time to buy a new computer?

"chris" wrote:


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?



It is apparent that you are incapable of distinguishing between
efficient well designed applications and bloated crapware written by
incompetent bungling nicompoops who can't even figure out how to
uninstall their own creations, as evidenced by the existence of
RNAV2003.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

"Ron Martell" wrote in message
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"chris" wrote:


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?



It is apparent that you are incapable of distinguishing between
efficient well designed applications and bloated crapware written by
incompetent bungling nicompoops who can't even figure out how to
uninstall their own creations, as evidenced by the existence of
RNAV2003.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Well, I uninstalled NSW2003Pro and installed Avast! free version and did not
notice any increase in performance except that the machine shut down quicker
with Avast! than it did with Norton.
I uninstalled Avast! and reinstalled NSW2003 again and noticed no slowdown.
Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram.
Perhaps later versions of Norton are more bloaty and 'would' slow down a system
such as mine, but I don't know.
Speaking of the 'Uninstall of Norton', when I uninstalled it and installed
Avast!, it may be that the Norton uninstall removed some files, possibly dlls,
that were shared and caused me many problems. Or, perhaps it was my ZAPro and
Avast! that caused me problems.
After I reinstalled NSW2003Pro all was back to normal.

"Ron Martell" wrote in message
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"chris" wrote:


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?



It is apparent that you are incapable of distinguishing between
efficient well designed applications and bloated crapware written by
incompetent bungling nicompoops who can't even figure out how to
uninstall their own creations, as evidenced by the existence of
RNAV2003.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Well, I uninstalled NSW2003Pro and installed Avast! free version and did not
notice any increase in performance except that the machine shut down quicker
with Avast! than it did with Norton.
I uninstalled Avast! and reinstalled NSW2003 again and noticed no slowdown.
Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram.
Perhaps later versions of Norton are more bloaty and 'would' slow down a system
such as mine, but I don't know.
Speaking of the 'Uninstall of Norton', when I uninstalled it and installed
Avast!, it may be that the Norton uninstall removed some files, possibly dlls,
that were shared and caused me many problems. Or, perhaps it was my ZAPro and
Avast! that caused me problems.
After I reinstalled NSW2003Pro all was back to normal.

"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Buffalo" wrote in message
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Well, I uninstalled NSW2003Pro and installed Avast! free version and did not
notice any increase in performance except that the machine shut down quicker
with Avast! than it did with Norton.
I uninstalled Avast! and reinstalled NSW2003 again and noticed no slowdown.
Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram.
Perhaps later versions of Norton are more bloaty and 'would' slow down a
system
such as mine, but I don't know.
Speaking of the 'Uninstall of Norton', when I uninstalled it and installed
Avast!, it may be that the Norton uninstall removed some files, possibly dlls,
that were shared and caused me many problems. Or, perhaps it was my ZAPro and
Avast! that caused me problems.
After I reinstalled NSW2003Pro all was back to normal.

"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Buffalo" wrote in message
...

Well, I uninstalled NSW2003Pro and installed Avast! free version and did not
notice any increase in performance except that the machine shut down quicker
with Avast! than it did with Norton.
I uninstalled Avast! and reinstalled NSW2003 again and noticed no slowdown.
Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram.
Perhaps later versions of Norton are more bloaty and 'would' slow down a
system
such as mine, but I don't know.
Speaking of the 'Uninstall of Norton', when I uninstalled it and installed
Avast!, it may be that the Norton uninstall removed some files, possibly dlls,
that were shared and caused me many problems. Or, perhaps it was my ZAPro and
Avast! that caused me problems.
After I reinstalled NSW2003Pro all was back to normal.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

Yep, I did the uninstall througt Add-Remove Pro, rebooted and then ran
Symcln.exe, Rnav2003.exe, and then finally did the manual cleanup.Still had a
problem with booting to a blank Desktop.
Installed Avast! again and still had that problem. Finally uninstalled Avast!
free and installed NSW2003Pro again and the system has run just great since.
Something must have changed with Norton uninstall or Avast! and ZAPro caused
some problem together that just made things worse as time went on.
When I first installed Avast!, my PC ran fine for almost two days. Then
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

Yep, I did the uninstall througt Add-Remove Pro, rebooted and then ran
Symcln.exe, Rnav2003.exe, and then finally did the manual cleanup.Still had a
problem with booting to a blank Desktop.
Installed Avast! again and still had that problem. Finally uninstalled Avast!
free and installed NSW2003Pro again and the system has run just great since.
Something must have changed with Norton uninstall or Avast! and ZAPro caused
some problem together that just made things worse as time went on.
When I first installed Avast!, my PC ran fine for almost two days. Then
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH.

I'm thinking you are too prone to messing with your system for us to be able to
draw any logical conclusions from your experiences. Just a bit too chaotic for
that, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Buffalo" wrote in message
. ..

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is
nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

Yep, I did the uninstall througt Add-Remove Pro, rebooted and then ran
Symcln.exe, Rnav2003.exe, and then finally did the manual cleanup.Still had a
problem with booting to a blank Desktop.
Installed Avast! again and still had that problem. Finally uninstalled Avast!
free and installed NSW2003Pro again and the system has run just great since.
Something must have changed with Norton uninstall or Avast! and ZAPro caused
some problem together that just made things worse as time went on.
When I first installed Avast!, my PC ran fine for almost two days. Then
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH.

I'm thinking you are too prone to messing with your system for us to be able to
draw any logical conclusions from your experiences. Just a bit too chaotic for
that, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Buffalo" wrote in message
. ..

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Running Win98SE , 1.8GHz AMD, and 768MB of ram." Certainly, Mary's is
nothing
like that.

That says a lot right there. Yours is hardly a "normal" Win98 machine. Then
there's the question of whether the lack of change noted after uninstalling
NSW2003Pro wasn't mostly due to crap left behind, damage already done--very
likely. Did you follow the manual cleaning instructions?

Yep, I did the uninstall througt Add-Remove Pro, rebooted and then ran
Symcln.exe, Rnav2003.exe, and then finally did the manual cleanup.Still had a
problem with booting to a blank Desktop.
Installed Avast! again and still had that problem. Finally uninstalled Avast!
free and installed NSW2003Pro again and the system has run just great since.
Something must have changed with Norton uninstall or Avast! and ZAPro caused
some problem together that just made things worse as time went on.
When I first installed Avast!, my PC ran fine for almost two days. Then
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking you are too prone to messing with your system for us to be able
to
draw any logical conclusions from your experiences. Just a bit too chaotic for
that, s.

Sadly, but very true about 'chaotic'. :-)