Report on Vista.

I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main goal.
Reserched each component to be sure it would work with Vista.
If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it degrades.
Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now. It's like playing on
an old "Atari".
I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows Updates"
I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't need to upgrade
to Vista?...DON'T!
Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a video card or
modem that I would need to call MS and get a new authorization.
That Vista original registration is only good for the original PC
composition that it was installed on. This keeps people from ,maybe, trying
to install it on more then one PC.
This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't get it.
And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.
And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague suggestions. Plus
there is about a thousand posts to it each day.
Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

If you use Vista, you should only drink imported wines and beers.
Otherwise, it will display all the problems you are having.


"poatt" wrote in message
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I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main goal.
Reserched each component to be sure it would work with Vista.
If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it degrades.
Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now. It's like playing on
an old "Atari".
I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows Updates"
I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't need to upgrade
to Vista?...DON'T!
Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a video card or
modem that I would need to call MS and get a new authorization.
That Vista original registration is only good for the original PC
composition that it was installed on. This keeps people from ,maybe, trying
to install it on more then one PC.
This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't get it.
And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.
And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague suggestions. Plus
there is about a thousand posts to it each day.
Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

poatt wrote:
| I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
| I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main goal.
| Reserched each component to be sure it would work with Vista.
| If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
| As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
| I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
| And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it
| degrades. Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now.
| It's like playing on an old "Atari".

Normally, Vista irradiation would burn off enough medulla obligata cells
to prevent you noticing that degradation. You are lucky to have
survived, poatt, & should switch exclusively back to Win98 immediately!

| I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows
| Updates" I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't
| need to upgrade to Vista?...DON'T!

Those computer geeks are fairly smart sometimes, & think it isn't too
late for you-- switch back!

| Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a video
| card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| authorization. That Vista original registration is only good for the
| original PC composition that it was installed on. This keeps people
| from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one PC.

98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted it!

| This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
| I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't
| get it. And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.

Very good. SO... stick with Win98 & crumble to dust with the rest of us.
It's better than burning in XP/Vista irradiation!

| And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague suggestions.
| Plus there is about a thousand posts to it each day.

That many! Oh, my God! Those poor, poor, burning souls!

| Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Well right at this moment I am stuck with XP and it's irradiation. Until I
can get rid of some kind of branding on the HD by Vista.
Was wondering thow...will Win98SE work on a "Raid" HD?
I have XP reinstalled ok. Deleteing Vista crashed XP also.
And for some reason nothing will let me format the drives back to Fat32.
Even though they were that before Vista install.

"PCR" wrote:

poatt wrote:
| I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
| I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main goal.
| Reserched each component to be sure it would work with Vista.
| If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
| As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
| I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
| And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it
| degrades. Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now.
| It's like playing on an old "Atari".

Normally, Vista irradiation would burn off enough medulla obligata cells
to prevent you noticing that degradation. You are lucky to have
survived, poatt, & should switch exclusively back to Win98 immediately!

| I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows
| Updates" I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't
| need to upgrade to Vista?...DON'T!

Those computer geeks are fairly smart sometimes, & think it isn't too
late for you-- switch back!

| Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a video
| card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| authorization. That Vista original registration is only good for the
| original PC composition that it was installed on. This keeps people
| from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one PC.

98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted it!

| This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
| I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't
| get it. And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.

Very good. SO... stick with Win98 & crumble to dust with the rest of us.
It's better than burning in XP/Vista irradiation!

| And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague suggestions.
| Plus there is about a thousand posts to it each day.

That many! Oh, my God! Those poor, poor, burning souls!

| Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Oh... by the way,
After the Vista fiasco and the reinstall of XP.
XP seems to have settled down. It's even playing the old 95 and 98 games
without having to go through a dance of compatability issues. It's actually
running like 98.
Maybe Vista is really the fix for XP.

"PCR" wrote:

poatt wrote:
| I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
| I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main goal.
| Reserched each component to be sure it would work with Vista.
| If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
| As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
| I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
| And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it
| degrades. Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now.
| It's like playing on an old "Atari".

Normally, Vista irradiation would burn off enough medulla obligata cells
to prevent you noticing that degradation. You are lucky to have
survived, poatt, & should switch exclusively back to Win98 immediately!

| I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows
| Updates" I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't
| need to upgrade to Vista?...DON'T!

Those computer geeks are fairly smart sometimes, & think it isn't too
late for you-- switch back!

| Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a video
| card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| authorization. That Vista original registration is only good for the
| original PC composition that it was installed on. This keeps people
| from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one PC.

98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted it!

| This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
| I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't
| get it. And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.

Very good. SO... stick with Win98 & crumble to dust with the rest of us.
It's better than burning in XP/Vista irradiation!

| And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague suggestions.
| Plus there is about a thousand posts to it each day.

That many! Oh, my God! Those poor, poor, burning souls!

| Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

PCR wrote:

| Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a
| video card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| authorization. That Vista original registration is only good
| for the original PC composition that it was installed on. This
| keeps people from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one
| PC.

98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted
it!

I wouldn't say I regretted it. It was a lark - to download Vista via
torrent, and apply a well-known validation hack and see if it works,
and play around with it a little. I spent a lot of time with the
voice recognition, but found the learning process too tedious. It's a
gimick, like the 3-D view of your desktop (I thought you could
individually custom-arrange your windows in a 3-D manner, but it looks
like you only get that single stacked-view, and only when you hold
down a certain key combination. What a crock.)

| I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it?
| Don't get it.

Vista was not designed or intended to be an upgrade choice for
existing PC's. Milkro$haft went to obtuse lengths to warn existing PC
owners away from Vista. Vista is intended to come pre-installed on
new systems, basically like every new OS from MS in the past, but in
this case even more so.

| And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.

When it comes to how much control you actually have over your
computer, Vista makes XP look like 98.

| Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

After we played around with Vista, we next tried Sun Solaris, which
worked, but we couldn't find a NIC driver for it.

Actually I see nothing wrong with someone checking out a new avenue.
Even though I would not follow up on hack information. I still like to be
informed.
You have to watch out for "PCR". PCR has a book of hexes. And if you say
something wrong here? You may get one of those hexes chanted against you.
And believe me they work. I now have an "Anti-hex" amulet I where around my
neck when I'm here just for that reason.
It's a chicken foot with a petrified rat's tail and a piece of parsley tied
to it.
So far it is working. But it won't protect you from irradiation.

"98 Guy" wrote:

PCR wrote:

| Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a
| video card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| authorization. That Vista original registration is only good
| for the original PC composition that it was installed on. This
| keeps people from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one
| PC.

98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted
it!

I wouldn't say I regretted it. It was a lark - to download Vista via
torrent, and apply a well-known validation hack and see if it works,
and play around with it a little. I spent a lot of time with the
voice recognition, but found the learning process too tedious. It's a
gimick, like the 3-D view of your desktop (I thought you could
individually custom-arrange your windows in a 3-D manner, but it looks
like you only get that single stacked-view, and only when you hold
down a certain key combination. What a crock.)

| I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it?
| Don't get it.

Vista was not designed or intended to be an upgrade choice for
existing PC's. Milkro$haft went to obtuse lengths to warn existing PC
owners away from Vista. Vista is intended to come pre-installed on
new systems, basically like every new OS from MS in the past, but in
this case even more so.

| And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.

When it comes to how much control you actually have over your
computer, Vista makes XP look like 98.

| Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.

After we played around with Vista, we next tried Sun Solaris, which
worked, but we couldn't find a NIC driver for it.

poatt wrote:
| Well right at this moment I am stuck with XP and it's irradiation.
| Until I can get rid of some kind of branding on the HD by Vista.
| Was wondering thow...will Win98SE work on a "Raid" HD?

I have no experience with it, but I know it will work by what I've read
at the BootIt NG site...
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/support.html
There is a chance your BIOS must be compliant to boot off it, though. I
wish I knew more.

| I have XP reinstalled ok. Deleteing Vista crashed XP also.
| And for some reason nothing will let me format the drives back to
| Fat32. Even though they were that before Vista install.

You want to convert the Vista partition to FAT32? If it is an NTFS
partition, probably you need to delete it, & afterwards create one that
is FAT32. But there may be a consequence to booting the XP partition, if
it's order in the MBR is changed. You may need to edit its Boot.ini
file-- but I have no experience with it. And don't delete the XP
partition by mistake, either.

poatt wrote:
| Oh... by the way,
| After the Vista fiasco and the reinstall of XP.
| XP seems to have settled down. It's even playing the old 95 and 98
| games without having to go through a dance of compatability issues.
| It's actually running like 98.
| Maybe Vista is really the fix for XP.

It may be a rare instance -- even the very first instance -- of the
Vista irradiation mutating the XP machine into a usable thing! Check
whether the XP machine is no longer radioactive. If so-- I hope it
lasts!

| "PCR" wrote:
|
| poatt wrote:
| | I am quickly comeing to a possible dicission to expell Vista.
| | I built this system (from scratch) with Vista use as the main
| | goal. Reserched each component to be sure it would work with
| | Vista. If in doubt? I selected the most recent model.
| | As I said in an earlier post. Vista installed without a problem.
| | I downloaded all the Vista updates like a good little MS customer.
| | And each day it degrades. It seems like at each daily boot it
| | degrades. Games that worked great,at first install, are 2-D now.
| | It's like playing on an old "Atari".
|
| Normally, Vista irradiation would burn off enough medulla obligata
| cells to prevent you noticing that degradation. You are lucky to have
| survived, poatt, & should switch exclusively back to Win98
| immediately!
|
| | I have done "NOTHING!" to the system. Except download "Windows
| | Updates" I should have listened to a PC Geek that said if I didn't
| | need to upgrade to Vista?...DON'T!
|
| Those computer geeks are fairly smart sometimes, & think it isn't too
| late for you-- switch back!
|
| | Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a
| | video card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| | authorization. That Vista original registration is only good for
| | the original PC composition that it was installed on. This keeps
| | people from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one PC.
|
| 98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted it!
|
| | This is just my experience with it and what I did to get here.
| | I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it? Don't
| | get it. And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.
|
| Very good. SO... stick with Win98 & crumble to dust with the rest of
| us. It's better than burning in XP/Vista irradiation!
|
| | And the Vista newsgroup people only come up with vague
| | suggestions. Plus there is about a thousand posts to it each day.
|
| That many! Oh, my God! Those poor, poor, burning souls!
|
| | Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

98 Guy wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|
| | Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a
| | video card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| | authorization. That Vista original registration is only good
| | for the original PC composition that it was installed on. This
| | keeps people from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one
| | PC.
|
| 98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted
| it!
|
| I wouldn't say I regretted it. It was a lark - to download Vista via
| torrent, and apply a well-known validation hack and see if it works,
| and play around with it a little.

That was a dangerous thing to do! But I see you quit it before losing
too many brain cells or getting arrested. Very good, then.

| I spent a lot of time with the
| voice recognition, but found the learning process too tedious. It's a
| gimick, like the 3-D view of your desktop (I thought you could
| individually custom-arrange your windows in a 3-D manner, but it looks
| like you only get that single stacked-view, and only when you hold
| down a certain key combination. What a crock.)

That's what meant-- you didn't like it. Very good, yea.

| | I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it?
| | Don't get it.
|
| Vista was not designed or intended to be an upgrade choice for
| existing PC's. Milkro$haft went to obtuse lengths to warn existing PC
| owners away from Vista. Vista is intended to come pre-installed on
| new systems, basically like every new OS from MS in the past, but in
| this case even more so.
|
| | And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.
|
| When it comes to how much control you actually have over your
| computer, Vista makes XP look like 98.
|
| | Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.
|
| After we played around with Vista, we next tried Sun Solaris, which
| worked, but we couldn't find a NIC driver for it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

poatt wrote:
| Actually I see nothing wrong with someone checking out a new avenue.
| Even though I would not follow up on hack information. I still like
| to be informed.
| You have to watch out for "PCR". PCR has a book of hexes. And if you
| say something wrong here? You may get one of those hexes chanted
| against you. And believe me they work. I now have an "Anti-hex"
| amulet I where around my neck when I'm here just for that reason.
| It's a chicken foot with a petrified rat's tail and a piece of
| parsley tied to it.

Aha! Now that I know what it is-- hmmmm.

| So far it is working. But it won't protect you from irradiation.

No, it takes a double-thick tinfoil hat for protection from Vista
irradiation!

| "98 Guy" wrote:
|
| PCR wrote:
|
| | Come to find out (from him) that if I change something like a
| | video card or modem that I would need to call MS and get a new
| | authorization. That Vista original registration is only good
| | for the original PC composition that it was installed on. This
| | keeps people from ,maybe, trying to install it on more then one
| | PC.
|
| 98 Guy may have found an illicit way to do so-- but has regretted
| it!
|
| I wouldn't say I regretted it. It was a lark - to download Vista via
| torrent, and apply a well-known validation hack and see if it works,
| and play around with it a little. I spent a lot of time with the
| voice recognition, but found the learning process too tedious. It's
| a gimick, like the 3-D view of your desktop (I thought you could
| individually custom-arrange your windows in a 3-D manner, but it
| looks like you only get that single stacked-view, and only when you
| hold down a certain key combination. What a crock.)
|
| | I guess the only thing I can say is...If you don't need it?
| | Don't get it.
|
| Vista was not designed or intended to be an upgrade choice for
| existing PC's. Milkro$haft went to obtuse lengths to warn existing
| PC owners away from Vista. Vista is intended to come pre-installed
| on new systems, basically like every new OS from MS in the past, but
| in this case even more so.
|
| | And...Did I mention? I Hate XP.
|
| When it comes to how much control you actually have over your
| computer, Vista makes XP look like 98.
|
| | Next I will try a Linux OS. I hate XP.
|
| After we played around with Vista, we next tried Sun Solaris, which
| worked, but we couldn't find a NIC driver for it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR