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hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
If you are like me, and only use IE6, you will start to wonder why
information is being contained in these folders.?
If you are also like me, and DONT even use a 'microsoft' Browser, then
you are starting to ask Questions.
Personally, I would not use microsofts IE browser, as there isnt enough
gold on this planet to bribe me with, and hence, I am asking all readers
to 'ask' the question as to 'why' a folder exists under their windows folder
called "temporary internet files', of which contains a folder called
'Content IE5', of which contains 4 or 5 other folders of which naming
conventions
dont even exist to discuss the logic thereof.
But, a matter of more importance, is 'why' the 'file' inside said folders
called 'index.dat' refuses to be 'deleted'?

So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we users
cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
If you are like me, and only use IE6, you will start to wonder why
information is being contained in these folders.?

If you study these "ridiculous" folder names and the
dates of their creation and their contents you may notice:
(a) They hold Temporary Internet Files. All browsers (e.g.
Mozilla as well as IE and others) use these to speed up
monitor display of web sites you visit a second time.
Your browser / Tools option lets you set how long your
PC retains these files, days, weeks or months.
(b) The folder names appear to be time/date codes.

But, a matter of more importance, is 'why' the 'file' inside said folders
called 'index.dat' refuses to be 'deleted'?

This file is Windows-protected, so that a browser can
make use of the small files listed there (mostly fragments
of Internet pages you have viewed once before.) E.g. an
..RA file is a link (sort of URL) to an audio file you have
already played. Click on it and it will restart playing the
audio file without delay. Click on a JPG file and you will
see the picture, also instantly.

So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we users
cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Not so. DOS is immune from Windows protection, i.e.
from a DOS prompt we can remove any file we like from
our PCs (even if Windows protects it as useful or essential.)

A file or files on your PC is no proof "microsoft is collecting 'data'"
from you.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

To answer your question: NO.

Before making baseless accusations, it is often best to do some research so
you have an idea of what you are talking about. The folders you describe
are part of IE--you have IE installed, the folders come with it. The funny
named folders are so named to prevent an exploit by others. The contents of
these folders are files used to speed up browsing. If you have dial up (or
remember dial up), you'll note the web pages load very slowly. Yet if you
use the back button, the page pops up fairly fast. That's because it uses
the contents of the funny named folders rather than downloading the web page
again. The folders also contain copies of cookies and I am guessing that
they are used to speed up the process somehow. All contents (except the
index file) can be deleted normally. The index.dat file can be deleted from
DOS; however, it will be rebuilt upon rebooting as it is a required file.
Finally, it's kind of funny that you think MS is keeping tabs on people.
With a couple of billion (wild guess) computers running Windows, it would be
some task to collect all the data and then single out a person--wouldn't it?

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jeff" wrote in message
...
hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
If you are like me, and only use IE6, you will start to wonder why
information is being contained in these folders.?
If you are also like me, and DONT even use a 'microsoft' Browser, then
you are starting to ask Questions.
Personally, I would not use microsofts IE browser, as there isnt enough
gold on this planet to bribe me with, and hence, I am asking all readers
to 'ask' the question as to 'why' a folder exists under their windows
folder
called "temporary internet files', of which contains a folder called
'Content IE5', of which contains 4 or 5 other folders of which naming
conventions
dont even exist to discuss the logic thereof.
But, a matter of more importance, is 'why' the 'file' inside said folders
called 'index.dat' refuses to be 'deleted'?

So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we users
cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

Jeff wrote:
hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with
ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
If you are like me, and only use IE6, you will start to wonder why
information is being contained in these folders.?
If you are also like me, and DONT even use a 'microsoft' Browser,
then
you are starting to ask Questions.
Personally, I would not use microsofts IE browser, as there isnt
enough gold on this planet to bribe me with, and hence, I am
asking all readers to 'ask' the question as to 'why' a folder
exists under their windows folder called "temporary internet
files', of which contains a folder called 'Content IE5', of which
contains 4 or 5 other folders of which naming conventions
dont even exist to discuss the logic thereof.
But, a matter of more importance, is 'why' the 'file' inside said
folders called 'index.dat' refuses to be 'deleted'?

So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we
users
cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

How long have you been afflicted with paranoia?

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

Of course! Have been for years.

With a couple of billion (wild guess) computers running Windows, it would be
some task to collect all the data and then single out a person--wouldn't it?

Wrong question to ask. The right question is: Has it been budgeted for?

IMO, almost certainly.

I was wondering that myself.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm

Luke wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:00:01 +1030, "Jeff" wrote:

hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
[snip] So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont
even use their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs,
and we users cant even delete the file of which the information is
kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

You just return from a round trip to Area 51 on a black helicopter
courtesy Martian Illuminati emissaries from the Trilateral Commission?

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:00:01 +1030, "Jeff" wrote:

hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with ridiculous
names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the american gov'.
[snip]
So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we users
cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

Coincidentally, I just had occation to be curious about that index.dat file
since it was one of only five files, out of all 15,xxx+ files that I just
tried to back up to my new hard drive, that wouldn't copy over. My report
from the backup job said "it" and the other 4 files...content.ie5 and the
like were "busy" so it couldn't back them up, however, I was able to copy the
index.dat to my F: ( hard drive) manually.
I don't think the files were really that busy....probably just on break
g....and silly me worrying about losing the little buggers....huh?

rvw

Yeah, silly you, s. Worthless things when they're not in use.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm

Rvwinkle wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:00:01 +1030, "Jeff"
wrote:

hello,
I am using windows 98se at the moment.
I have SP1 of which means I have OE6 etc.

To all others doing the same, check your 'windows' folder for
another 'folder' called 'local settings'. \
Under this folder you will come across another folder called ......
'Content IE5', of which you will find other 'folders' with
ridiculous names dreamed up by microsoft programmers or the
american gov'.
[snip]
So, we have microsoft collecting 'data' even though we dont even use
their 'browser', of which is being done behind our backs, and we
users cant even delete the file of which the information is kept in.

Is anyone here a tad suspcious??

Coincidentally, I just had occation to be curious about that
index.dat file since it was one of only five files, out of all
15,xxx+ files that I just tried to back up to my new hard drive, that
wouldn't copy over. My report from the backup job said "it" and the
other 4 files...content.ie5 and the like were "busy" so it couldn't
back them up, however, I was able to copy the index.dat to my F: (
hard drive) manually. I don't think the files were really that
busy....probably just on break g....and silly me worrying about
losing the little buggers....huh?

rvw