UPDATE: Mystery Dial Up, "Logging on to network" takes a long time

Hi,

Thanks to everyone (especially Charlie R) who responded. I tried glee's
procedure in part, there was no "Quick Logon" in mine. It didn't work.

I used the link (see below) presented to me by Charlie R. What really
fixed my problem, I unchecked "Log On To Network". WOW! Now
I can log on in a "flash"!

Brad

From (thanks) www.altohiway.com/cgi-bin/knowledge/147.html :

As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
Password" to take a very long time.

The solution is to follow the below steps:

1 - Double-click My Computer

2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking

3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click Properties

4 - Click on the Server Types tab

5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'

6 - Click OK

7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now much
quicker.
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:49:27 GMT, you wrote:

Hi,

I recently bought a used Toshiba "Satellite" 2105CDS (WIN98se) laptop.
After I downloaded the drivers for this model from Toshiba's site, I formatted
the HDD and installed Win98SE (not from a "System Restore" CD).
I installed the drivers. Everything is fine, but the dial up connection
(using internal 56K modem). Unlike my other Win98 computers, when I
"connect" (via "Dialer"), "Connect" and "Confirming password" is normal
(quick). "Logging on to network" takes a long time before this is finished
(Dialer window closes and small icon appears in System Tray). I have tried
several times on different days. My other slower computer, doesn't have this
problem. Note: Afterwards, I have no trouble browsing and downloading
(download speed is always fast for dial up).

As a test, I installed a new PC card modem and it's driver. Using
that modem, I still have the same problem!

I called Toshiba tech support and he told me to check settings and compare
them to the other computer. I already did that. Do you have any idea what
might be causing this?

Thanks in advance, Brad

Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.

Logging into Hotmail takes a 1MB download, or up to 5 minutes on dial-up. Just
checking certificates.

Glad you got it fixed. I can't believe I forgot to include the info to uncheck 'Log
on to network' in the DUN connection properties sheet. I've probably told a hundred
people to do that along with unchecking NetBEUI and IPX/SPX. Such is life (and my
memory) when I try to reply on my lunch break. :-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brad" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Thanks to everyone (especially Charlie R) who responded. I tried glee's
procedure in part, there was no "Quick Logon" in mine. It didn't work.

I used the link (see below) presented to me by Charlie R. What really
fixed my problem, I unchecked "Log On To Network". WOW! Now
I can log on in a "flash"!

Brad

From (thanks) www.altohiway.com/cgi-bin/knowledge/147.html :

As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
Password" to take a very long time.

The solution is to follow the below steps:

1 - Double-click My Computer

2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking

3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click Properties

4 - Click on the Server Types tab

5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'

6 - Click OK

7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now much
quicker.
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:49:27 GMT, you wrote:

Hi,

I recently bought a used Toshiba "Satellite" 2105CDS (WIN98se) laptop.
After I downloaded the drivers for this model from Toshiba's site, I formatted
the HDD and installed Win98SE (not from a "System Restore" CD).
I installed the drivers. Everything is fine, but the dial up connection
(using internal 56K modem). Unlike my other Win98 computers, when I
"connect" (via "Dialer"), "Connect" and "Confirming password" is normal
(quick). "Logging on to network" takes a long time before this is finished
(Dialer window closes and small icon appears in System Tray). I have tried
several times on different days. My other slower computer, doesn't have this
problem. Note: Afterwards, I have no trouble browsing and downloading
(download speed is always fast for dial up).

As a test, I installed a new PC card modem and it's driver. Using
that modem, I still have the same problem!

I called Toshiba tech support and he told me to check settings and compare
them to the other computer. I already did that. Do you have any idea what
might be causing this?

Thanks in advance, Brad

Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.

You're welcome, Brad. Glad it worked for you. Thanks for posting back.

charlie R


"Brad" wrote in message
...
: Hi,
:
: Thanks to everyone (especially Charlie R) who responded. I tried
glee's
: procedure in part, there was no "Quick Logon" in mine. It didn't
work.
:
: I used the link (see below) presented to me by Charlie R. What
really
: fixed my problem, I unchecked "Log On To Network". WOW! Now
: I can log on in a "flash"!
:
: Brad
:
: From (thanks) www.altohiway.com/cgi-bin/knowledge/147.html :
:
: As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
: actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
: Password" to take a very long time.
:
: The solution is to follow the below steps:
:
: 1 - Double-click My Computer
:
: 2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking
:
: 3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click
Properties
:
: 4 - Click on the Server Types tab
:
: 5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'
:
: 6 - Click OK
:
: 7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now
much
: quicker.
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
:
: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:49:27 GMT, you wrote:
:
: Hi,
:
: I recently bought a used Toshiba "Satellite" 2105CDS (WIN98se)
laptop.
: After I downloaded the drivers for this model from Toshiba's site, I
formatted
: the HDD and installed Win98SE (not from a "System Restore" CD).
: I installed the drivers. Everything is fine, but the dial up
connection
: (using internal 56K modem). Unlike my other Win98 computers, when I
: "connect" (via "Dialer"), "Connect" and "Confirming password" is
normal
: (quick). "Logging on to network" takes a long time before this is
finished
: (Dialer window closes and small icon appears in System Tray). I
have tried
: several times on different days. My other slower computer, doesn't
have this
: problem. Note: Afterwards, I have no trouble browsing and
downloading
: (download speed is always fast for dial up).
:
: As a test, I installed a new PC card modem and it's driver. Using
: that modem, I still have the same problem!
:
: I called Toshiba tech support and he told me to check settings and
compare
: them to the other computer. I already did that. Do you have any
idea what
: might be causing this?
:
: Thanks in advance, Brad
:
: Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
: be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
:

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:59:12 GMT, (Brad) wrote:

As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
Password" to take a very long time.

Some duhfaults are positively lethal, like binding File and Print
Sharing to the dial-up Internet connection.

The solution is to follow the below steps:

1 - Double-click My Computer
2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking
3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click Properties
4 - Click on the Server Types tab
5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'
6 - Click OK
7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now much
quicker.

Also, in the Bindings tab, UNcheck File and Print Sharing, and use
Family Login rather than either MS or Novel Network Clients.



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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:59:12 GMT, (Brad) wrote:

As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
Password" to take a very long time.

Some duhfaults are positively lethal, like binding File and Print
Sharing to the dial-up Internet connection.

The solution is to follow the below steps:

1 - Double-click My Computer
2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking
3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click Properties
4 - Click on the Server Types tab
5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'
6 - Click OK
7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now much
quicker.

Also, in the Bindings tab, UNcheck File and Print Sharing, and use
Family Login rather than either MS or Novel Network Clients.



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Thanks, Chris!

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:59:12 GMT, (Brad) wrote:

As default, Windows 9x sets options on a Dial-Up account which aren't
actually necessary. This can often cause the "Verifying Username and
Password" to take a very long time.

Some duhfaults are positively lethal, like binding File and Print
Sharing to the dial-up Internet connection.

The solution is to follow the below steps:

1 - Double-click My Computer
2 - Double-click Dial Up Networking
3 - Right click on the Dial Up Connection you use, and click Properties
4 - Click on the Server Types tab
5 - Uncheck 'Log On To Network', 'NetBEUI' and 'IPX/SPX Compatible'
6 - Click OK
7 - Dial up again. You should find that the logging in process is now
much
quicker.

Also, in the Bindings tab, UNcheck File and Print Sharing, and use
Family Login rather than either MS or Novel Network Clients.

There is no Bindings tab in DUN Properties.
Nor is that where you enable/disable File and Print Sharing.

You do it via Control Panel, then Network,
then click on the File and Print Sharing button.

You can bring up the Dial-Up Adapter Properties by highlighting
Dial-Up Adapter, and clicking the Properties button.

Also, if you are the only User, there is no need for Family Login.

If you don't have User profiles enabled, the Windows Family Login
option will not even be offered.

User Profiles and Windows 98 Logon is described in detail here

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc....mspx?mfr=true

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:50:15 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" wrote:
"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote

Also, in the Bindings tab, UNcheck File and Print Sharing, and use
Family Login rather than either MS or Novel Network Clients.

There is no Bindings tab in DUN Properties.
Nor is that where you enable/disable File and Print Sharing.

In Win9x, File and Print Sharing is enabled in the "front door" of the
Network Properties dialog, via "share files" and "share printers".

Once you do that, File and Print Sharing is enabled on all network
protocols bound to all network adaptors. It's like pouring superglue
into the back of a mechanical clock.

That's why you need to drill into details within the network settings,
to un-bind File and Print Sharing. You're right; it's not bound to
the network adapter, but to network protocols that are instanced on a
per-adapter basis - you unbind them there.

For example, you might start with...

- LAN card (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- NetBEUI (protocol)
- IPX (protocol)
- Dial-Up "adapter" (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- NetBEUI (protocol)
- IPX (protocol)

....and then turn on File and Print Sharing (F&PS):

- LAN card (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- F&PS
- NetBEUI (protocol)
- F&PS
- IPX (protocol)
- F&PS
- Dial-Up "adapter" (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- F&PS
- NetBEUI (protocol)
- F&PS
- IPX (protocol)
- F&PS

(for clarity, I'm leaving out the network clients for now)

If you don't want Internet access for the LAN, you might trim to this:

- LAN card (adapter)
- NetBEUI (protocol)
- F&PS
- Dial-Up "adapter" (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)

If you did want Internet access for the LAN, do this:

- LAN card (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- F&PS
- Dial-Up "adapter" (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)

WinME may be smart enough not to bind F&PS to TCP/IP on DUN,
especially if you created that DUN through Internet Connection Wizard.

But Win95xx and Win98xx are indeed so clueless that you'd wind up
waving your network shares at the Internet by duuuuhfault.

Also, if you are the only User, there is no need for Family Login.

Family Logon wasn't available in Win95xx, and a common complaint was
"why do I have to have the Network Neighborhood icon welded into the
desktop when I'm not on a network??". This was because to do any sort
of network access, you'd be obliged to use either Client for Microsoft
Networks or Client for Novell Networks, and those clients include some
functionalities you don't want exposed to the Internet.

Win98 debuted Family Login as a "thin (non-)client". By using this
for Internet access, you could have your DUN password remembered,
while not having a Network icon or the desktop or a redundant password
login prompt whenever Windows starts up.

If you don't have User profiles enabled, the Windows Family Login
option will not even be offered.

That hasn't been my experience, though I can't recall whether I did
anything extra to get it into the frame. I never use user profiles,
and I've always used Family Login on Win98/ME for DUN, e.g...

- LAN card (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- F&PS
- Client for Microsoft Networks
- Dial-Up "adapter" (adapter)
- TCP/IP (protocol)
- Family Login



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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:59:56 -0500, "mae"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Why would it take you 5 minutes?
Mine doesn't take that long.
In fact, I would drop it if it did.
--
mae

Assuming a good dial-up speed of 5KB/s, a 1MB download would take 200
seconds, or just over 3 minutes. At 3KB/s it would take about 5
minutes.

"Cymbal Man Freq." Don't g wrote in
message ...
| Logging into Hotmail takes a 1MB download, or up to 5 minutes on dial-up.
Just
| checking certificates.
|

- Franc Zabkar
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