Printer issue

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| | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"

| | put finger to keyboard and composed:
| |
| | What do you do when your printer omits one of its four colours,
so
| | everything that comes out looks weird? You change the cartridge
of
| | course.

{stuff deleted}

| | when I posted here last year about a window popping up at shutdown
with
| the
| | familiar text 'this program is not responding'. I got advice from
| various
| | sides, installed Microsoft patches, monitoring tools, reg. cleaners,
| Adaware
| | etc. I learned a lot about how win98se works, but not nearly enough
to
| | really solve a problem, so the window still pops up whenever I
shutdown
| | after using IE6. Now I contemplate starting from scratch. What kept
me
| | thusfar is the amount of work it involves.
| |
| | Cornelis Koger
| |
| |
|
|
| One more you may have missed as it was an addendum, did you check the
| BIOS
| for the proper port settings?
| As this is a USB printer, did you check for any USB port settings
that
| your
| board might need set in the BIOS?
| Is this USB 1.0, 2.0, 2.*? Your printer likely requires 2.0 though it
may
| [or did if that's what you have] work with 1.0.

| The BIOS has a USB yes/no option and Assign IRQ yes/no. USB was on of
| course, assign IRQ was off. I switched it on: it now shares IRQ5 with 3
| other devices. The USB-hub says it's 2.0, the printer is plugged
directly
to
| the main board, always has been.

Ah ha, Okay Assign IRQ should have been on for Win9X.
Nice USB 2.0 gives ya lots of usage....

|
| Also make su that "PNP OS" is noted in the BIOS and that automatic
| settings/assignments are being used; RESET/UPDATE ESCD is set to yes
or
do
| or what ever; then Save Settings and restart to Normal Mode.

| Bad idea! These were both off. After I switched them on the machine
failed
| to boot, so I switched them off again, but that didn't do any good: just
a
| warning beep and a black screen. So I booted in safe mode and found IRQ
| conflicts between video and audio cards. With device manager I tried to
| assign different IRQ's, but win98 gave me a slide show of warnings, so I
| abandoned the efforts. Tried to delete the ATI Rage Pro drivers, but
that
| ended with 'this program has performed an illegal function bla bla'.
Only
| after I deleted the drivers manually in DOS mode, rebooted and
reinstalled
| them, the machine resumed normal life again.

Okay, then the OS was either installed with these off, OR, some
drivers/applications were installed after something caused these to be
reset
in the BIOS/CMOS. 9X should be {or have been} installed with these turned
on.

Another possibility - Have you ever thought about, checked, or changed the
BIOS/CMOS battery? How old is this machine/board?
PNP os has always been off. When I installed the board several years ago, I
respected the default setting where I saw no explicit reason to change them.
So I never enabled SMART, Top Performance, memory refresh rate etc. For the
rest of this board's life I won't changes BIOS settings anymore.

|
| A potential issue relates to whether your using ACPI are you? IF so,
| save
| the below for future use, and post back {SEE the last paragraph
HOWEVER
of
| this post}[ACPI is not recommended for desktops or towers, i.e.,
| non-mobile,
| in 98].

| No, ACPI and win98 are a bad marriage.

|
| The test/alignment prog/app shows you have alignment errors, though
if
| the
| printer is not receiving the proper "orders", as is indicated by the
| errors/failure which the app directed too, then you will not be
successful
| regardless, nor will the printer print properly.
|
| Question begs to know whether you're using default drivers or one of
the
| "universal drivers" for anything such as a Flash Drive or other USB
| device?

| Not to my knowledge. There are several drivers, for the Samsung stick, a
| card programmer, two cameras, but nothing universal.

|
| Here's the test.

OHOH, we may need to review these ...

[MOST OF TEST DELETED]

|
| Microsoft included a tool on the CDROM called USBView which you may
have
| in:
| C:\%windir%\Options\Cabs\tools\reskit\diagnose\usb view.exe , or on
the
| CDROM;
| \tools\reskit\diagnose\usbview.exe
|
| Run the tool and note what it finds. You can copy the findings by
| highlighting the right pane and right click copy. Save in a text prog
for
| future reference.

| Never knew I was that rich. Not on the harddisk but the CDROM has it. It
| says there is a generic hub connected to port1, no devices to hub
1/2/3/4
| and an inkjet colour printer to port 2. Useful tool!

Yep, first tool to pull out when suspecting USB problems.

|
| Now reinstall the printer software, OR if the printer requires,
follow
| its
| recommendations for installation. Restart after installing, and check
for
| problems. Make sure your NOT printing to RAW format. Check all other
| printer
| settings. NOTE: having uninstalled the software, likely the INK
available
| will not be accurate. Recheck with USB View.
| See if your problem still exists.
|
| Though a relatively involved test, we can now pretty much negate
hardware
| and printer software related issues, save for the specifics involved
with
| ACPI [if your using]; and potentials related to OS variables in
| conjunction
| potentials related to the prior issues you worked on.
| [GEES, did I actually write all that????]

| I wish you had skipped the PNP OS line. It took me the better part of
this
| morning to get the machine functional again.

Well, PNP OS allows the OS to manage the assignments, resetting AUTO and
updating ESCD resets them to defaults, which allows the 9X OS to work out
where to put stuff.
Without PNP OS set, the BIOS/CMOS reports its assignments, which you may
have manually set or which the manufacturer set, disallowing the OS to
reassign without potential conflicts or assigning conflicts which are
"supposed" to work together [shared assignments].

As the video card crashed, it appears to show it was installed without
AUTO, and PNP, and likely ASSIGN IRQ [for the video] properly set.
Once properly set in the BIOS/CMOS, the card [and potentially other
devices] would need to be reinstalled/ or checked for proper settings.
This, because the OS would attempt to reassign to proper shared IRQS,
e.g.,
things known to work together without alot of failures or conflicts. As
the
OS never ran (needing the video for graphics) it never changed the IRQ and
otherr assignments.
In fact, as video cards are necessary in the gui, most cards/drivers will
NOT allow reassignments within Windows 9X and must be, as you found and I
failed to caution, be uninstalled, before setting PNP OS and ASSIGN IRQ
FOR
VIDEO CARD in the BIOS/CMOS, and reinstalled afterwards. Sorry, my bad,
should have warned you. {knew i forgot something, that naging in the back
of
the brain}

|
| There is a HOWEVER here.
| You have had prior problems with this OS setup before, which
indicates
| registry and installation issues, which are likely being compounded
after
| each fix or attempted fix. Though we all HATE to reinstall, you might
want
| to seriously think about scheduling this shortly.
| It is extremely difficult to correct problems when running across the
| various issues and modifications which your OS may now contain.
| Now [soon], would be an excellent time to make a clean base install
| [leaving out added applications and peripherals], burn that to CDROM
or
| image/backup to a separate partition for future use if you intend to
| continue using 98SE.
|
| --
| MEB
| _______________
|

| MEB, Thanks for putting your experience at my disposal for free, it must
| have taken a lot of time. What I completely forgot was the fact that I
still
| have winXP on another partition. It maybe helpful to install the Lexmark
and
| a graphics package there to see if the problem persists.


AAAACCCKKK, yyyyyyyeah best test it there.

The dual boot issue modifies some of the test and installation of both.
{My
bad again, forgot you advised previously you had done that for the tax
form
issue}

XP once installed and running, ignores the BIOS/CMOS for the most part,
and
will reassign stuff based upon HAL and other aspects within the OS.

9X, on the other hand, reads BIOS/CMOS, uses the limitations and
assignments
(though it may override some settings with varying success rates).

Dual booting should be set for the base requirements of the most limited
OS
or the most used OS, which would be 9X in your case, unless your booting
virtual... hence, whenever you decide to re-install, set those things in
the
BIOS/CMOS properly, but expect XP to complain a bit upon first startup {it
make take longer to bootup the first time, as it will be resetting the
bootup assignments}...

But then we have dozens of duel [dual] booters here that can better serve
you on those potentials.
For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen this
feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware of each
other.
Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and .... not as
bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the Lexmark
helpdesk goes while I post this.

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MEB
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Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as
if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
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but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
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| | | "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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| | | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"
|
| | | put finger to keyboard and composed:
| | |
| | | What do you do when your printer omits one of its four colours,
| so
| | | everything that comes out looks weird? You change the cartridge
| of
| | | course.
|
| {now even more stuff deleted}
in
| | conjunction
| | potentials related to the prior issues you worked on.
| | [GEES, did I actually write all that????]
|
| | I wish you had skipped the PNP OS line. It took me the better part of
| this
| | morning to get the machine functional again.
|
| Well, PNP OS allows the OS to manage the assignments, resetting AUTO
and
| updating ESCD resets them to defaults, which allows the 9X OS to work
out
| where to put stuff.
| Without PNP OS set, the BIOS/CMOS reports its assignments, which you
may
| have manually set or which the manufacturer set, disallowing the OS to
| reassign without potential conflicts or assigning conflicts which are
| "supposed" to work together [shared assignments].
|
| As the video card crashed, it appears to show it was installed without
| AUTO, and PNP, and likely ASSIGN IRQ [for the video] properly set.
| Once properly set in the BIOS/CMOS, the card [and potentially other
| devices] would need to be reinstalled/ or checked for proper settings.
| This, because the OS would attempt to reassign to proper shared IRQS,
| e.g.,
| things known to work together without alot of failures or conflicts. As
| the
| OS never ran (needing the video for graphics) it never changed the IRQ
and
| otherr assignments.
| In fact, as video cards are necessary in the gui, most cards/drivers
will
| NOT allow reassignments within Windows 9X and must be, as you found and
I
| failed to caution, be uninstalled, before setting PNP OS and ASSIGN IRQ
| FOR
| VIDEO CARD in the BIOS/CMOS, and reinstalled afterwards. Sorry, my bad,
| should have warned you. {knew i forgot something, that naging in the
back
| of
| the brain}
|
| |
| | There is a HOWEVER here.
| | You have had prior problems with this OS setup before, which
| indicates
| | registry and installation issues, which are likely being compounded
| after
| | each fix or attempted fix. Though we all HATE to reinstall, you
might
| want
| | to seriously think about scheduling this shortly.
| | It is extremely difficult to correct problems when running across
the
| | various issues and modifications which your OS may now contain.
| | Now [soon], would be an excellent time to make a clean base install
| | [leaving out added applications and peripherals], burn that to CDROM
| or
| | image/backup to a separate partition for future use if you intend to
| | continue using 98SE.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | _______________
| |
|
| | MEB, Thanks for putting your experience at my disposal for free, it
must
| | have taken a lot of time. What I completely forgot was the fact that I
| still
| | have winXP on another partition. It maybe helpful to install the
Lexmark
| and
| | a graphics package there to see if the problem persists.
|
|
| AAAACCCKKK, yyyyyyyeah best test it there.
|
| The dual boot issue modifies some of the test and installation of both.
| {My
| bad again, forgot you advised previously you had done that for the tax
| form
| issue}
|
| XP once installed and running, ignores the BIOS/CMOS for the most part,
| and
| will reassign stuff based upon HAL and other aspects within the OS.
|
| 9X, on the other hand, reads BIOS/CMOS, uses the limitations and
| assignments
| (though it may override some settings with varying success rates).
|
| Dual booting should be set for the base requirements of the most
limited
| OS
| or the most used OS, which would be 9X in your case, unless your booting
| virtual... hence, whenever you decide to re-install, set those things in
| the
| BIOS/CMOS properly, but expect XP to complain a bit upon first startup
{it
| make take longer to bootup the first time, as it will be resetting the
| bootup assignments}...
|
| But then we have dozens of duel [dual] booters here that can better
serve
| you on those potentials.

| For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen this
| feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware of each
| other.

Smart move.

| Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and .... not as
| bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the Lexmark
| helpdesk goes while I post this.

Well ,good luck there [Lexmark]...

Just out of curiosity, what mother board is that?

--
MEB
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| | ...
| | | "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"
|
| | | put finger to keyboard and composed:
| | |
| | | What do you do when your printer omits one of its four
colours,
| so
| | | everything that comes out looks weird? You change the
cartridge
| of
| | | course.
|
| {now even more stuff deleted}
in
| | conjunction
| | potentials related to the prior issues you worked on.
| | [GEES, did I actually write all that????]
|
| | I wish you had skipped the PNP OS line. It took me the better part
of
| this
| | morning to get the machine functional again.
|
| Well, PNP OS allows the OS to manage the assignments, resetting AUTO
and
| updating ESCD resets them to defaults, which allows the 9X OS to work
out
| where to put stuff.
| Without PNP OS set, the BIOS/CMOS reports its assignments, which you
may
| have manually set or which the manufacturer set, disallowing the OS to
| reassign without potential conflicts or assigning conflicts which are
| "supposed" to work together [shared assignments].
|
| As the video card crashed, it appears to show it was installed
without
| AUTO, and PNP, and likely ASSIGN IRQ [for the video] properly set.
| Once properly set in the BIOS/CMOS, the card [and potentially other
| devices] would need to be reinstalled/ or checked for proper settings.
| This, because the OS would attempt to reassign to proper shared IRQS,
| e.g.,
| things known to work together without alot of failures or conflicts.
As
| the
| OS never ran (needing the video for graphics) it never changed the IRQ
and
| otherr assignments.
| In fact, as video cards are necessary in the gui, most cards/drivers
will
| NOT allow reassignments within Windows 9X and must be, as you found
and
I
| failed to caution, be uninstalled, before setting PNP OS and ASSIGN
IRQ
| FOR
| VIDEO CARD in the BIOS/CMOS, and reinstalled afterwards. Sorry, my
bad,
| should have warned you. {knew i forgot something, that naging in the
back
| of
| the brain}
|
| |
| | There is a HOWEVER here.
| | You have had prior problems with this OS setup before, which
| indicates
| | registry and installation issues, which are likely being
compounded
| after
| | each fix or attempted fix. Though we all HATE to reinstall, you
might
| want
| | to seriously think about scheduling this shortly.
| | It is extremely difficult to correct problems when running across
the
| | various issues and modifications which your OS may now contain.
| | Now [soon], would be an excellent time to make a clean base
install
| | [leaving out added applications and peripherals], burn that to
CDROM
| or
| | image/backup to a separate partition for future use if you intend
to
| | continue using 98SE.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | _______________
| |
|
| | MEB, Thanks for putting your experience at my disposal for free, it
must
| | have taken a lot of time. What I completely forgot was the fact that
I
| still
| | have winXP on another partition. It maybe helpful to install the
Lexmark
| and
| | a graphics package there to see if the problem persists.
|
|
| AAAACCCKKK, yyyyyyyeah best test it there.
|
| The dual boot issue modifies some of the test and installation of
both.
| {My
| bad again, forgot you advised previously you had done that for the tax
| form
| issue}
|
| XP once installed and running, ignores the BIOS/CMOS for the most
part,
| and
| will reassign stuff based upon HAL and other aspects within the OS.
|
| 9X, on the other hand, reads BIOS/CMOS, uses the limitations and
| assignments
| (though it may override some settings with varying success rates).
|
| Dual booting should be set for the base requirements of the most
limited
| OS
| or the most used OS, which would be 9X in your case, unless your
booting
| virtual... hence, whenever you decide to re-install, set those things
in
| the
| BIOS/CMOS properly, but expect XP to complain a bit upon first startup
{it
| make take longer to bootup the first time, as it will be resetting the
| bootup assignments}...
|
| But then we have dozens of duel [dual] booters here that can better
serve
| you on those potentials.

| For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen this
| feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware of
each
| other.

Smart move.

| Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and .... not
as
| bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the
Lexmark
| helpdesk goes while I post this.

Well ,good luck there [Lexmark]...

Just out of curiosity, what mother board is that?

--
MEB
"Gigabyte" socket 370 board with Apollo chipset and Award BIOS.

Cornelis Koger _______________

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| | | | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"
| |
| | | | put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| | For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen this
| | feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware of
| each
| | other.
|
| Smart move.
|
| | Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and .... not
| as
| | bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the
| Lexmark
| | helpdesk goes while I post this.
|
| Well ,good luck there [Lexmark]...
|
| Just out of curiosity, what mother board is that?
|
| --
| MEB
| "Gigabyte" socket 370 board with Apollo chipset and Award BIOS.
|
| Cornelis Koger _______________
|
|
|
|

Produce some good boards, and their 370 Slot converter {early version with
the jumpers} was a good choice for 370 to slot 1.

Know what model number?

--
MEB
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| | | | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"
| |
| | | | put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| | For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen
this
| | feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware
of
| each
| | other.
|
| Smart move.
|
| | Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and ....
not
| as
| | bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the
| Lexmark
| | helpdesk goes while I post this.
|
| Well ,good luck there [Lexmark]...

Lexmark responded very friendly, asked for a description of the test page
result and based on that diagnosed that the cartridge was defective. I told
them that then all my cartridges have the same defect and thanked them
politely for their time.
|
| Just out of curiosity, what mother board is that?
|
| --
| MEB
| "Gigabyte" socket 370 board with Apollo chipset and Award BIOS.
|
| Cornelis Koger _______________
|
|
|
|

Produce some good boards, and their 370 Slot converter {early version
with
the jumpers} was a good choice for 370 to slot 1.

Know what model number?

--
MEB
_______________
Last week in a small german village the lady from the beverage discount shop
asked me how long I was married, if it was the first marriage and if I had
grandchildren (I just wanted to buy some beer). I could answer all these
questions on the spot, but for yours I had to rummage through a lot of stuff
in the attic. The model number is GA-6VXE7.

Cornelis Koger

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| | | | | On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:50 +0200, "C.D. Koger"
| | |
| | | | | put finger to keyboard and composed:
| |
| | | For my dual booting, I swap C and D in the BIOS setup. Never seen
| this
| | | feature before, but I make good use of it. The O/S's are not aware
| of
| | each
| | | other.
| |
| | Smart move.
| |
| | | Installed the Lexmark stuff for XP, printed the test page and ....
| not
| | as
| | | bad as under 98se, but not what it should look like. A mail to the
| | Lexmark
| | | helpdesk goes while I post this.
| |
| | Well ,good luck there [Lexmark]...
|
| Lexmark responded very friendly, asked for a description of the test page
| result and based on that diagnosed that the cartridge was defective. I
told
| them that then all my cartridges have the same defect and thanked them
| politely for their time.

Expected as much. That was the "why" for the [*LEXMARK!!!!!!!!!*] I
previously placed.
CHeap printers, questionable quality, poor support, and were known for
driver issues.

| |
| | Just out of curiosity, what mother board is that?
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | "Gigabyte" socket 370 board with Apollo chipset and Award BIOS.
| |
| | Cornelis Koger _______________
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
| Produce some good boards, and their 370 Slot converter {early version
| with
| the jumpers} was a good choice for 370 to slot 1.
|
| Know what model number?
|
| --
| MEB
| _______________
| Last week in a small german village the lady from the beverage discount
shop
| asked me how long I was married, if it was the first marriage and if I had
| grandchildren (I just wanted to buy some beer). I could answer all these
| questions on the spot, but for yours I had to rummage through a lot of
stuff
| in the attic. The model number is GA-6VXE7.
|
| Cornelis Koger
|
|

Uh, okay, so you got the beer though right? Dark or light? hehe

Okay, perhaps should have advised why I questioned... thought I might
create ANOTHER save folder for parties who might post in here semi-regularly
so I or the group don't have to ask the backgrounds so often. Some already
have their own saved folders/info on my hard drive, thought I'd start one
for you... promise I won't sell it for profit [what's that?] or turn it over
to the Polizeien or Bundeskriminalamt grin.

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