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November 14th 04, 04:26 PM
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"Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks guys, So, I have extracted a new copy of Smartdrv.exe and put in windows folder a new copy of Deltree.exe is in windows/command. I realise the error "can't load Smartdrv.exe when windows or msdos shell is running" is because I was trying to load it whilst in windows when trying to troubleshoot. I only ever run it normally from restart in msdos The file clean.bat is in the C where it should be, am not typing clean.bat wrongly. As for "checking the path statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT" which Autoexec.bat? I have 6. One in C/ - one in C/Drivers/MCDBF/Source1 - one in C/Drivers/system - two in programme files (powerquest/drive image rescue and VFD set up and also one in C/Failsafe drive. I guess the one to check is in C/? This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Is restart in MSDOS pure DOS? I don't have 'command prompt only' on the start menu. -- * * Pebble in Boulder * * Why is it so? It's done the job for years. No, pure (real) DOS is different. If that bat file worked fine in Restart in Dos mode, then it is probably something else. There are less programs, drivers, files, etc in use in pure DOS mode. To get there, either hold or tap the Ctrl key during bootup until you get to the StartUp Menu ( I incorrectly named it the Start Menu last time, sorry). If you get to the line starting windows, you were too late and will have to try again. Another way to get to the StartUp Menu without worrying about the timing of the Ctrl key tap, is to go into msconfig (Start, Run, type msconfig) and select the Advanced tab and put a check in Enable Startup_Menu and OK out and reboot. Once you are at the StartUp Menu, choose command prompt only and press Enter. At the C:\ prompt, type clean and press Enter. If your .bat now works, then perhaps it will give others more info on why it won't work in Restart in MS-Dos mode. To exit out of pure DOS, press Ctrl-Alt-Del. If you changed msconfig, be sure to change it back when you select Windows in the StartUp Menu. 
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November 14th 04, 04:47 PM
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"Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks guys, So, I have extracted a new copy of Smartdrv.exe and put in windows folder a new copy of Deltree.exe is in windows/command. I realise the error "can't load Smartdrv.exe when windows or msdos shell is running" is because I was trying to load it whilst in windows when trying to troubleshoot. I only ever run it normally from restart in msdos The file clean.bat is in the C where it should be, am not typing clean.bat wrongly. As for "checking the path statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT" which Autoexec.bat? I have 6. One in C/ - one in C/Drivers/MCDBF/Source1 - one in C/Drivers/system - two in programme files (powerquest/drive image rescue and VFD set up and also one in C/Failsafe drive. I guess the one to check is in C/? This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Is restart in MSDOS pure DOS? I don't have 'command prompt only' on the start menu. -- * * Pebble in Boulder * * "Fred S" "Fred wrote in message ... Buffalo Sounds like either the batch file has a different name, or is in a different folder (directory) from before. Here's a standard description of that error message: "You tried to execute a DOS command that was not recognized or found by the system. The most common cause of this problem is simply misspelling the command you tried to type. Otherwise, you could be trying to run a program that doesn't exist on the system, or from the wrong floppy disk. You might also have a problem with the PATH statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. The PATH statement specifies which directories the system should automatically search for programs that you run." Check your path statement in autoexec.bat for any changes. Be sure you are in the correct folder when you run it. Let us know what you find. Fred Buffalo wrote: "Pebble" wrote in message ... Hi all, Have been running a bat file to clean temp files etc. Restart in msdos-at the command-type clean-enter-and it does it's job. Today it wouldn't work - bad command or file name - This is it. ****************** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers del c:\WIN386.SWP exit ******************* Why is it so? It's done the job for years. If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and the C:\.) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to a bad smartdrv file or path to it. If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to a bad deltree.exe or path to it. If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry. PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in C:\.
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#13
November 14th 04, 10:19 PM
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Before I forget, better also post "C:\CDINST.BAT". (R-Clk it, Edit, to
get at it.) That file also is executing upon "Restart in MS-DOS Mode", because it is within your DOSStart.bat. "c:\mouse\mouse.exe" gives you a DOS mouse. As far as "C:\SBPCI\SBINIT", looks like that is Sound Blaster. If it's always been there, I guess it's OK. You are welcome. Well, I'm not quite a perfect DOS expert, BUT... Every DOS except Windows DOS (in a box) is Pure DOS. They all have the same instruction set & can only do what DOS can do (as opposed to Windows enhancements such as LFN [Long File Name] processing & better file/partition accessing). However, they may differ in "environment", which cquirke has often said & to which Buffalo may allude. Environment can be altered three ways... (a) By running a .bat such as DOSStart.bat to change variables, Paths & load processes. (b) By altering the "exit to DOS" pif. (c) Possibly that 4K stub (mentioned below) of Windows makes a difference. cquirke seems to believe so, but generally I do all my own DOS in a normal "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" DOS. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;151717 Can't EXIT MS-DOS Mode http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130448 Can't QUIT MS-DOS Mode http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q138996 Description of Restarting Computer in MS-DOS Mode "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), pgs 1068,1099, explains: 1. Direct Boot to DOS (Cold booted DOS) a. Accessed through Boot Menu item, "Command Prompt Only". b. Windows is not started. c. Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are run, if present. d. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. "WIN" loads Windows. 2. "Quit" to DOS (Re-started MS-DOS mode) a. Accessed from "START, Shut Down, Re-start in MS-DOS mode", unless "exit to DOS" pif was converted to "Warm Boot". b. Accessed from any .pif that ISN'T a "Warm Boot" pif, as described below. c. Is NOT a warm boot; Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are NOT re-run, but are honored to the extent Windows has not mussed the environment they set. d. Dosstart.bat is run, if present. e. "EXIT" reloads Windows (from 4K stub), also without a boot. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. 3. Warm Booted MS-DOS mode ("Re-boot" to DOS) a. Accessed from a "Warm Boot" .pif that IS BOTH checked "MS-DOS mode" AND bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration", in it's Properties, Program tab, Advanced button. b. Accessed from START button, if you've altered "exit to dos", as described. c. Does a warm boot, using Config.sys and Autoexec.bat as configured in the pif. (The system files are renamed *.wos & the pif files are extracted for the session.) d. Dosstart.bat is NOT run. e. "EXIT" restores the system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat & warm boots to Windows. (Ctrl-Alt-Del & "WIN" should NOT be used.) If you don't want to modify the "exit to dos" pif so that it does a warm boot, then create a pif this way: 1. "START, Find, Command.com". (Probably in C:\ & C:\Windows). 2. "R-Clk either, Send to, Desktop (create shortcut)". It will be named "MS-DOS Prompt". 3. R-Clk "MS-DOS Prompt" on the Desktop, & select Properties. 4. Click the Program tab & then the Advanced button. 5. Mark the MS-DOS Mode check box. Mark "Warn before entering..." as desired. 6. For a "Warm Boot to DOS" pif, mark the "Specify a New MS-DOS Configuration" button. If you do not do that, you will have a "Quit to DOS" pif. 7. OK you're way out. When you click that pif, you will either "warm boot" or "quit to DOS", depending on what you did in step 6. If it's a warm boot, then the Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside the pif are the ones that will be in effect in your DOS session. Alter them inside the pif as desired, before clicking it. Cquirke's WARNING: Because of system/.pif file switching, give a Warm Boot .pif a chance to execute after clicking. If you click it a second time before getting to DOS, you may lose your system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat files. http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm There are even more DOS mentioned there. "Select MS-DOS mode on this page", said Leboeuf. http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/winmode.htm -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks guys, So, I have extracted a new copy of Smartdrv.exe and put in windows folder a new copy of Deltree.exe is in windows/command. I realise the error "can't load Smartdrv.exe when windows or msdos shell is running" is because I was trying to load it whilst in windows when trying to troubleshoot. I only ever run it normally from restart in msdos The file clean.bat is in the C where it should be, am not typing clean.bat wrongly. As for "checking the path statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT" which Autoexec.bat? I have 6. One in C/ - one in C/Drivers/MCDBF/Source1 - one in C/Drivers/system - two in programme files (powerquest/drive image rescue and VFD set up and also one in C/Failsafe drive. I guess the one to check is in C/? This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Is restart in MSDOS pure DOS? I don't have 'command prompt only' on the start menu. -- * * Pebble in Boulder * * "Fred S" "Fred wrote in message ... Buffalo Sounds like either the batch file has a different name, or is in a different folder (directory) from before. Here's a standard description of that error message: "You tried to execute a DOS command that was not recognized or found by the system. The most common cause of this problem is simply misspelling the command you tried to type. Otherwise, you could be trying to run a program that doesn't exist on the system, or from the wrong floppy disk. You might also have a problem with the PATH statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. The PATH statement specifies which directories the system should automatically search for programs that you run." Check your path statement in autoexec.bat for any changes. Be sure you are in the correct folder when you run it. Let us know what you find. Fred Buffalo wrote: "Pebble" wrote in message ... Hi all, Have been running a bat file to clean temp files etc. Restart in msdos-at the command-type clean-enter-and it does it's job. Today it wouldn't work - bad command or file name - This is it. ****************** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers del c:\WIN386.SWP exit ******************* Why is it so? It's done the job for years.
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November 15th 04, 12:56 AM
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Thanks once again for all the opinions,
This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** As for all the other stuff PCR, wow that's a lot to swallow! Have saved = it all and will try to figure out what it's all about. As I said, I = don't like dabbling with the 'black screen' it's a bit too powerful and = confusing for me. But, then again I used to have regophobia too, and = that's gone now! The SBPCI stuff is sound blaster, as for the mouse - do I really need it = in DOS, I know how to navigate with the keys. Buffalo advised:- If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and the = C:\.) ***(I DID THE SPACE) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to a = bad smartdrv file or path to it.**********DOESN'T WORK If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries**I DID = REM-SPACE?- and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to a = bad deltree.exe or path to it.**************DOESN'T WORK If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in = front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry.***********DOESN'T WORK PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in C:\.***Thought = so, thanks. Didn't rem the last line, which is EXIT? Thanks for your patience. Original Clean.bat:- ******** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\temp=20 deltree /y c:\windows\tmp=20 deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies=20 deltree /y c:\windows\recent=20 deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers=20 rem del c:\WIN386.SWP=20 exit=20 ******** --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * *
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November 15th 04, 02:19 AM
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EUREKA,
It still doesn't work from 'restart in dos mode' from the shutdown menu, = but I enabled startup from msconfig, chose 'command prompt only' typed = 'clean' and it did! Thank the gods for that, didn't want to go back to doing all that manual = purging of temp files etc. Good one Buffalo. Would like to know why the 'restart in MS-DOS mode' doesn't work though, = when it has done for so long, well it will 'restart in msdos' but the = clean.bat still gives bad command or file name, haven't tried anything = else from that restart. (Don't know what other commands to try) --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * "Pebble" wrote in message = ... Thanks once again for all the opinions, This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** As for all the other stuff PCR, wow that's a lot to swallow! Have saved = it all and will try to figure out what it's all about. As I said, I = don't like dabbling with the 'black screen' it's a bit too powerful and = confusing for me. But, then again I used to have regophobia too, and = that's gone now! The SBPCI stuff is sound blaster, as for the mouse - do I really need it = in DOS, I know how to navigate with the keys. Buffalo advised:- If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and the = C:\.) ***(I DID THE SPACE) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to a = bad smartdrv file or path to it.**********DOESN'T WORK If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries**I DID = REM-SPACE?- and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to a = bad deltree.exe or path to it.**************DOESN'T WORK If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in = front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry.***********DOESN'T WORK PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in C:\.***Thought = so, thanks. Didn't rem the last line, which is EXIT? Thanks for your patience. Original Clean.bat:- ******** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\temp=20 deltree /y c:\windows\tmp=20 deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies=20 deltree /y c:\windows\recent=20 deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers=20 rem del c:\WIN386.SWP=20 exit=20 ******** --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * *
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November 15th 04, 06:22 AM
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Yes, keep your DOS Mouse. Some day you may actually need it. Note, it
will only be loaded when you "Restart in MS-DOS Mode", anyway, as only then will DOSStart.bat run on it's own. As Clean.bat does work after a direct boot to DOS from the Startup Menu, Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are fine. (I was about to ask to see them.) Also, you have functioning DELTREE & Smartdrv commands. (I don't care about that REM you may have left in front of DEL; it's an internal command, part of Command.com the DOS Interpreter.) Probably, something in those .bat's of yours is mussing the Path to the external commands (the ones that are programs in C:\Windows\Command) or to Clean.bat or CDINST.bat, themselves. Let me see whether I have everything to look at, now... This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Dosstart.bat doesn't change the Path itself, but it calls C\CDINST.bat (using that one's Path explicitly). No problem in Dosstart.bat. This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** I cannot figure what the purpose of C\CDINST.BAT is! It doesn't appear to actually do a thing, except to run twice (calls itself after Dosstart.bat called it) & fool with the Current Directory. You said Clean.bat was located in C:\. If, after running C\CDINST.BAT, the current directory is not C:\, then... C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\Clean.bat Bad command or file name ....it will itself be the "Bad command or file name". Also, it's possible the external commands, such as Smartdrv, will try to execute out of "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM", if you have older copies in there. I would put a "REM " into DOSStart,bat, to read... REM CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q ....& try to run Clean.bat in "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" again. If it STILL fails... (a) What is the current directory? That is, do you see "C:\" as the Prompt, or something else such as "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\" (b) Type... PATH... & report what is the Path... C:\PATH PATH=C:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command This is it. (The real original Clean.bat.) ****************** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers del c:\WIN386.SWP exit -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Pebble" wrote in message ... EUREKA, It still doesn't work from 'restart in dos mode' from the shutdown menu, but I enabled startup from msconfig, chose 'command prompt only' typed 'clean' and it did! Thank the gods for that, didn't want to go back to doing all that manual purging of temp files etc. Good one Buffalo. Would like to know why the 'restart in MS-DOS mode' doesn't work though, when it has done for so long, well it will 'restart in msdos' but the clean.bat still gives bad command or file name, haven't tried anything else from that restart. (Don't know what other commands to try) -- * * Pebble in Boulder * * "Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks once again for all the opinions, This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** As for all the other stuff PCR, wow that's a lot to swallow! Have saved it all and will try to figure out what it's all about. As I said, I don't like dabbling with the 'black screen' it's a bit too powerful and confusing for me. But, then again I used to have regophobia too, and that's gone now! The SBPCI stuff is sound blaster, as for the mouse - do I really need it in DOS, I know how to navigate with the keys. Buffalo advised:- If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and the C:\.) ***(I DID THE SPACE) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to a bad smartdrv file or path to it.**********DOESN'T WORK If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries**I DID REM-SPACE?- and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to a bad deltree.exe or path to it.**************DOESN'T WORK If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry.***********DOESN'T WORK PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in C:\.***Thought so, thanks. Didn't rem the last line, which is EXIT? Thanks for your patience. Original Clean.bat:- ******** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers rem del c:\WIN386.SWP exit ******** -- * * Pebble in Boulder * *
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November 16th 04, 03:30 AM
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Pebble:
P clean.bat wrongly. As for "checking the path statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT" = P which Autoexec.bat? I have 6. One in C/ - one in = Sometimes what I do is add "flags" in batch files to see where I am: Echo This is Point 1. PAUSE The screen will display "This is Point 1." to the screen and stop. To continue hit the enter key. The message can be just about anything you find makes sense to tell you where you are. - ¯ barry.martinþATþthesafebbs.zeppole.com ® * Bad Gift Ideas: "Laxatives-Of-The-World" gift set --- þ RoseReader 2.52á P003186 þ The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA 563-359-1971 --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXMod V1.13 at BBSWORLD *
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November 18th 04, 01:37 AM
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Hi PCR,
I would put a "REM " into DOSStart,bat, to read... REM CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q ...& try to run Clean.bat in "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" again. *********I did this PCR - no go! If it STILL fails... (a) What is the current directory? That is, do you see "C:\" as the Prompt, or something else such as "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\" (b) Type... PATH... & report what is the Path... ******Path=3DC\WINDOWS;c\windows;\windows\COMMAND- Seems to be an extra = 'c\windows? If I put clean.bat into Windows folder, it runs from 'restart in MSDOS = mode' If it is only in C, then it has to be from 'command prompt only' = clean.bat has always been in C (it hasn't got the REM in front of Del = swap file, that was a typo when I last posted the clean.bat) I cannot figure what the purpose of C\CDINST.BAT is! It doesn't appear to actually do a thing, except to run twice (calls itself after Dosstart.bat called it) & fool with the Current Directory. You said Clean.bat was located in C:\. If, after running C\CDINST.BAT, the current directory is not C:\, then... ***********what does this bat do exactly? Also, after trying to fix this problem with everybody's help, remming = this and that, and trying to run bats from within windows shell, I now = have quite a few undeletable files on C (system error 1026) with the = generic windows icon - 0 bytes - a few numeric file names and a few with = the same file name of _ no file extension! The new files with numeric = names I did delete, one was 5kb which I opened in notepad just had rows = and rows of 'bad command or file name.' Thanks for your patience. SHALL I SNIP ? --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * "PCR" wrote in message = ... Yes, keep your DOS Mouse. Some day you may actually need it. Note, it will only be loaded when you "Restart in MS-DOS Mode", anyway, as only then will DOSStart.bat run on it's own. =20 As Clean.bat does work after a direct boot to DOS from the Startup = Menu, Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are fine. (I was about to ask to see them.) Also, you have functioning DELTREE & Smartdrv commands. (I don't care about that REM you may have left in front of DEL; it's an internal command, part of Command.com the DOS Interpreter.) =20 Probably, something in those .bat's of yours is mussing the Path to = the external commands (the ones that are programs in C:\Windows\Command) = or to Clean.bat or CDINST.bat, themselves. Let me see whether I have everything to look at, now... =20 This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Dosstart.bat doesn't change the Path itself, but it calls C\CDINST.bat (using that one's Path explicitly). No problem in Dosstart.bat. =20 This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** I cannot figure what the purpose of C\CDINST.BAT is! It doesn't appear to actually do a thing, except to run twice (calls itself after Dosstart.bat called it) & fool with the Current Directory. You said Clean.bat was located in C:\. If, after running C\CDINST.BAT, the current directory is not C:\, then... =20 C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\Clean.bat Bad command or file name =20 ...it will itself be the "Bad command or file name". Also, it's = possible the external commands, such as Smartdrv, will try to execute out of "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM", if you have older copies in there. =20 I would put a "REM " into DOSStart,bat, to read... REM CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q ...& try to run Clean.bat in "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" again. =20 If it STILL fails... (a) What is the current directory? That is, do you see "C:\" as the Prompt, or something else such as "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\" (b) Type... PATH... & report what is the Path... C:\PATH PATH=3DC:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command =20 =20 This is it. (The real original Clean.bat.) ****************** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers del c:\WIN386.SWP exit =20 =20 --=20 Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Pebble" wrote in message ... EUREKA, It still doesn't work from 'restart in dos mode' from the shutdown = menu, but I enabled startup from msconfig, chose 'command prompt only' typed 'clean' and it did! Thank the gods for that, didn't want to go back to doing all that = manual purging of temp files etc. Good one Buffalo. Would like to know why the 'restart in MS-DOS mode' doesn't work = though, when it has done for so long, well it will 'restart in msdos' but the clean.bat still gives bad command or file name, haven't tried anything else from that restart. (Don't know what other commands to try) --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * =20 "Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks once again for all the opinions, =20 This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** As for all the other stuff PCR, wow that's a lot to swallow! Have = saved it all and will try to figure out what it's all about. As I said, I don't like dabbling with the 'black screen' it's a bit too powerful = and confusing for me. But, then again I used to have regophobia too, and that's gone now! The SBPCI stuff is sound blaster, as for the mouse - do I really need = it in DOS, I know how to navigate with the keys. =20 Buffalo advised:- If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and = the C:\.) ***(I DID THE SPACE) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to = a bad smartdrv file or path to it.**********DOESN'T WORK If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries**I DID REM-SPACE?- and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to = a bad deltree.exe or path to it.**************DOESN'T WORK If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry.***********DOESN'T WORK PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in = C:\.***Thought so, thanks. Didn't rem the last line, which is EXIT? Thanks for your patience. =20 Original Clean.bat:- ******** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers rem del c:\WIN386.SWP (No REM) it's a typo exit ******** --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * =20 =20 =20 "PCR" wrote in message = ... Yes, keep your DOS Mouse. Some day you may actually need it. Note, it will only be loaded when you "Restart in MS-DOS Mode", anyway, as only then will DOSStart.bat run on it's own. =20 As Clean.bat does work after a direct boot to DOS from the Startup = Menu, Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are fine. (I was about to ask to see them.) Also, you have functioning DELTREE & Smartdrv commands. (I don't care about that REM you may have left in front of DEL; it's an internal command, part of Command.com the DOS Interpreter.) =20 Probably, something in those .bat's of yours is mussing the Path to = the external commands (the ones that are programs in C:\Windows\Command) = or to Clean.bat or CDINST.bat, themselves. Let me see whether I have everything to look at, now... =20 This is my Dosstart.bat PCR **** @ECHO OFF CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q c:\mouse\mouse.exe C:\SBPCI\SBINIT ******** Dosstart.bat doesn't change the Path itself, but it calls C\CDINST.bat (using that one's Path explicitly). No problem in Dosstart.bat. =20 This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** I cannot figure what the purpose of C\CDINST.BAT is! It doesn't appear to actually do a thing, except to run twice (calls itself after Dosstart.bat called it) & fool with the Current Directory. You said Clean.bat was located in C:\. If, after running C\CDINST.BAT, the current directory is not C:\, then... =20 C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\Clean.bat Bad command or file name =20 ...it will itself be the "Bad command or file name". Also, it's = possible the external commands, such as Smartdrv, will try to execute out of "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM", if you have older copies in there. =20 I would put a "REM " into DOSStart,bat, to read... REM CALL C:\CDINST.BAT Q ...& try to run Clean.bat in "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" again. =20 If it STILL fails... (a) What is the current directory? That is, do you see "C:\" as the Prompt, or something else such as "C:\DRIVERS\CDROM\" (b) Type... PATH... & report what is the Path... C:\PATH PATH=3DC:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command =20 =20 This is it. (The real original Clean.bat.) ****************** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers del c:\WIN386.SWP exit =20 =20 --=20 Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Pebble" wrote in message ... EUREKA, It still doesn't work from 'restart in dos mode' from the shutdown = menu, but I enabled startup from msconfig, chose 'command prompt only' typed 'clean' and it did! Thank the gods for that, didn't want to go back to doing all that = manual purging of temp files etc. Good one Buffalo. Would like to know why the 'restart in MS-DOS mode' doesn't work = though, when it has done for so long, well it will 'restart in msdos' but the clean.bat still gives bad command or file name, haven't tried anything else from that restart. (Don't know what other commands to try) --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * =20 "Pebble" wrote in message ... Thanks once again for all the opinions, =20 This is C\CDINST.BAT **** @echo off C: CD \DRIVERS\CDROM CALL CDINST.BAT %1 %2 %3 CD \ ****** As for all the other stuff PCR, wow that's a lot to swallow! Have = saved it all and will try to figure out what it's all about. As I said, I don't like dabbling with the 'black screen' it's a bit too powerful = and confusing for me. But, then again I used to have regophobia too, and that's gone now! The SBPCI stuff is sound blaster, as for the mouse - do I really need = it in DOS, I know how to navigate with the keys. =20 Buffalo advised:- If pure DOS doesn't work, try Bert Kinney's advice. I would first try putting a rem in front of the smartdrv entry: Ex: rem C:\windows\smartdrv.exe (leave a space between the rem and = the C:\.) ***(I DID THE SPACE) See if the program now works. If it does, it narrows down the field to = a bad smartdrv file or path to it.**********DOESN'T WORK If not, I would put a rem in front of all the deltree entries**I DID REM-SPACE?- and remove the rem from the smartdrv.exe entry. See if the program now works.If it does, it narrows down the field to = a bad deltree.exe or path to it.**************DOESN'T WORK If it still doesn't work, remove all the above rem and put one in front of the del c:\WIN386.SWP entry.***********DOESN'T WORK PS: The autoexec.bat you were asking about is the one in = C:\.***Thought so, thanks. Didn't rem the last line, which is EXIT? Thanks for your patience. =20 Original Clean.bat:- ******** c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers rem del c:\WIN386.SWP exit ******** --=20 * * Pebble in Boulder * * =20 =20 =20
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"PCR" wrote in message ... I'll snip. Well, you forgot to answer... (a) What is the Current Directory, when you "Restart in MS-DOS Mode"? That is, do you see "C:\" as the DOS Prompt, or something else such as "C:\Windows" Since Clean.bat was not in the Path, it could only run if it were in the Current Directory (or if you called it using it's full Path, i.e., "C:\Clean.bat"). You put it into the Path, when you moved it to "C:\Windows"; so, it ran well. Probably, it is better to move it to "C:\Windows\Command", though. It will also execute from there, no matter what the Current Directory or the Path is. And that is where DOS commands & .bat's belong. [snip] That makes a lot of sense. Pebble either had it open to C:\ or she would change it to that before typing clean . Good catch.
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