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  #1  
Old July 23rd 04, 01:30 AM
bhaviland
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Default Restore/Norton Error

I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?
  #2  
Old July 23rd 04, 05:34 AM
Noel Paton
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Default Restore/Norton Error

Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
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"bhaviland" wrote in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?



  #3  
Old July 23rd 04, 04:59 PM
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Default Restore/Norton Error

Yes I have tried those. Nada.
I forgot to mention that the machine will not respond to
keyboard input during startup; it only responds
with "keyboard error" or tries to start normally.

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from

floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote

in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?



.

  #4  
Old July 23rd 04, 06:42 PM
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Default Restore/Norton Error

One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from

floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote

in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?



.

  #5  
Old July 24th 04, 12:28 AM
Mart
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Default Restore/Norton Error

If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last resort - you *may* get away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you out of the mire - at least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a format - you could try a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from

floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote

in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?



.



  #6  
Old July 24th 04, 05:48 AM
Noel Paton
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Default Restore/Norton Error

The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at startup - it may simply
be that the system is responding normally because bhaviland is pressing the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could indicate a more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup when you get the error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited number of keys - usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last resort - you *may* get away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you out of the mire - at

least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a format - you could try

a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from

floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote

in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?


.





  #7  
Old July 24th 04, 11:17 AM
Mart
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Default Restore/Norton Error

Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself but 'assumed' it to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers (including the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that couldn't be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at startup - it may

simply
be that the system is responding normally because bhaviland is pressing

the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could indicate a more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup when you get the

error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited number of keys -

usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last resort - you *may* get

away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you out of the mire - at

least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a format - you could

try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote
in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My Network
Places, and various other windows and applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the ME
operating system?


.







  #8  
Old July 27th 04, 11:20 PM
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Default Restore/Norton Error

I am not sure why the system would not respond to keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup menu at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing the
input correctly, though I tried many different techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS. That
has solved the problems with the system, at least for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself but 'assumed' it

to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers (including

the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that couldn't

be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in

message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at

startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because

bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could indicate a

more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup when

you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited

number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other

than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to

post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last resort -

you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you out

of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a

format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does

not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous

restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot

from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how

to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"

wrote
in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a

problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup

and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My

Network
Places, and various other windows and

applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each

system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the

ME
operating system?


.







.

  #9  
Old July 28th 04, 12:13 AM
Mart
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Default Restore/Norton Error

Thanks for the update, but just a little worried about your 'ultimate' goal.
Be sure to clear up ALL your WinMe issues BEFORE you attempt to upgrade it
to XP (unless you intend to do a clean install)

Good luck

Mart



wrote in message
...
I am not sure why the system would not respond to keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup menu at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing the
input correctly, though I tried many different techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS. That
has solved the problems with the system, at least for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself but 'assumed' it

to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers (including

the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that couldn't

be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in

message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at

startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because

bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could indicate a

more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup when

you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited

number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other

than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to

post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last resort -

you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you out

of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a

format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does

not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous

restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS boot

from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how

to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"

wrote
in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a

problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on startup

and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel, My

Network
Places, and various other windows and

applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each

system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix the

ME
operating system?


.







.



  #10  
Old July 29th 04, 08:49 PM
bhaviland
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Default Restore/Norton Error

Yup, I intend to perform a crispy-clean install of XP.
One thing that I wish I would have written down is the
procedure for performing a debug operation before
installing an operating system.
That is one of the things that Dell tech usually helps
with when they are working with me on one of their systems
still under warranty.
Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
Thanks for the update, but just a little worried about

your 'ultimate' goal.
Be sure to clear up ALL your WinMe issues BEFORE you

attempt to upgrade it
to XP (unless you intend to do a clean install)

Good luck

Mart



wrote in message
...
I am not sure why the system would not respond to

keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup menu

at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing the
input correctly, though I tried many different

techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS. That
has solved the problems with the system, at least for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install

that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my

wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself but 'assumed'

it
to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers (including

the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that couldn't

be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in

message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at

startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because

bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could

indicate a
more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup

when
you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited

number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other

than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to

post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last

resort -
you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you

out
of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a

format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in

message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does

not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous

restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS

boot
from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how

to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"


wrote
in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a

problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on

startup
and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel,

My
Network
Places, and various other windows and

applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the

only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each

system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix

the
ME
operating system?


.







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