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Old November 20th 09, 10:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

On 11/20/2009 03:10 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:39 am, MEB wrote:
On 11/18/2009 05:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:





MEB wrote:
On 11/18/2009 01:18 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
I was trying to reinstall Baldur's Gate after a MOD conflict when I
accidentally clicked on Azureus and uninstalled it instead. I found
that Azureus has now become Vuze and seems to no longer support Win9X.
I like to sic my obsolete computer on doing things like running
Bittorrent or burning CDs so it doesn't tie up resources on my modern
computer when possible; so I'd like to reinstall Azureus. What was the
best version to install on Windows 98SE, as it's obvious the updater
wasn't working as I hadn't updated it in at least two years. I do know
it had been updated since it was installed, so my old installer that I
saved on a CD is obsolete. Also, where can I find the appropriate
download link for said version?


Alternately, what would be the best bitorrent application to install
on my old Windows 98SE computer?


Hmm, just for legal downloads right...


Try old versions:
http://www.oldversion.com/Azureus.html


And why did you post the request in this group?


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Well, that shows me the old versions, but which one is the best for
Win98SE?


I suppose that would be more of your own *personal determination* than
the actual program. Just as it is for any other application where
someone might like one particular version over a newer or older one,
just because they don't like the interface change, or some change in
menu, or other like activities.
Remember that this is apparently a JAVA implementation, so JAVA
vulnerabilities are inherent in the program. It might be advisable to
keep apprised of any warnings and fixes therein related.

I was hoping to be told that there was either a version that worked
well in 98 before they started restricting features to the NT line, or
to be told that the latest version works best as it has the most
features for that OS. As I said, I use the Windows 98 computer as my
primary torrent machine BECAUSE it is obsolete, therefore I don't have
to tie up my good computer's resources. Even though it runs in the
background, it's still degrading performance.

* * *
As for why this group? Which group should I have used? Azureus is an
internet file sharing program. File sharing and internet == network.


Okay, reasonable explanation... definitely a network when peered to
others using Azureus/Tor activities. Then again, that would make ANY
activity done out here networking, which it is. That far reaching
understanding usually escapes most people.

It seems I missed the M.P.W.internet group, as I only saw the
subgroups that didn't seem relevant. You were right to ask, and upon
rereading the quote it seems I came off far more sarcastic than was
intended. I was trying to legitimately ask, but it came across far
more crass than I intended. My deficiency at tact strikes again.


Wish I could help with a version but...

You could always try the gen_discussion group... networking and
Internet [and most others] in the 9X discussion groups aren't posted in
very much anymore.

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Old December 15th 09, 12:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they going for
$0.50 to $15.00



"MEB" wrote in message
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On 11/18/2009 01:18 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
I was trying to reinstall Baldur's Gate after a MOD conflict when I
accidentally clicked on Azureus and uninstalled it instead. I found
that Azureus has now become Vuze and seems to no longer support Win9X.
I like to sic my obsolete computer on doing things like running
Bittorrent or burning CDs so it doesn't tie up resources on my modern
computer when possible; so I'd like to reinstall Azureus. What was the
best version to install on Windows 98SE, as it's obvious the updater
wasn't working as I hadn't updated it in at least two years. I do know
it had been updated since it was installed, so my old installer that I
saved on a CD is obsolete. Also, where can I find the appropriate
download link for said version?

Alternately, what would be the best bitorrent application to install
on my old Windows 98SE computer?


Hmm, just for legal downloads right...

Try old versions:
http://www.oldversion.com/Azureus.html

And why did you post the request in this group?

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Old December 15th 09, 12:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they going for
$0.50 to $15.00



"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 11/18/2009 01:18 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
I was trying to reinstall Baldur's Gate after a MOD conflict when I
accidentally clicked on Azureus and uninstalled it instead. I found
that Azureus has now become Vuze and seems to no longer support Win9X.
I like to sic my obsolete computer on doing things like running
Bittorrent or burning CDs so it doesn't tie up resources on my modern
computer when possible; so I'd like to reinstall Azureus. What was the
best version to install on Windows 98SE, as it's obvious the updater
wasn't working as I hadn't updated it in at least two years. I do know
it had been updated since it was installed, so my old installer that I
saved on a CD is obsolete. Also, where can I find the appropriate
download link for said version?

Alternately, what would be the best bitorrent application to install
on my old Windows 98SE computer?


Hmm, just for legal downloads right...

Try old versions:
http://www.oldversion.com/Azureus.html

And why did you post the request in this group?

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  #14  
Old December 15th 09, 03:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
98 Guy
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

Hot-text top-poasted and full-quoted:

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they
going for $0.50 to $15.00


Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?

The truth is that buying a win-98 cd from someone on e-bay is not the
same as buying a music or movie CD.

You probably will NOT have the legal rights to run win-98 even if you
have a real win-98 CD in your hands that you bought from e-bay.

In two hours you can torrent your own copy of win-98. No hassles with
e-bay or shipping or junk like that. There is no difference in buying a
win-98 cd from e-bay vs downloading it with a torrent. Microsoft would
have a problem with either method.

And yes, uTorrent is probably the best torrent program for win-98.
  #15  
Old December 15th 09, 03:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
98 Guy
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

Hot-text top-poasted and full-quoted:

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they
going for $0.50 to $15.00


Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?

The truth is that buying a win-98 cd from someone on e-bay is not the
same as buying a music or movie CD.

You probably will NOT have the legal rights to run win-98 even if you
have a real win-98 CD in your hands that you bought from e-bay.

In two hours you can torrent your own copy of win-98. No hassles with
e-bay or shipping or junk like that. There is no difference in buying a
win-98 cd from e-bay vs downloading it with a torrent. Microsoft would
have a problem with either method.

And yes, uTorrent is probably the best torrent program for win-98.
  #16  
Old December 15th 09, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

On 12/15/2009 09:19 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
Hot-text top-poasted and full-quoted:

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they
going for $0.50 to $15.00


Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?

The truth is that buying a win-98 cd from someone on e-bay is not the
same as buying a music or movie CD.

You probably will NOT have the legal rights to run win-98 even if you
have a real win-98 CD in your hands that you bought from e-bay.

In two hours you can torrent your own copy of win-98. No hassles with
e-bay or shipping or junk like that. There is no difference in buying a
win-98 cd from e-bay vs downloading it with a torrent. Microsoft would
have a problem with either method.


Absolutely stupid argument. So because you believe legal transference
will not occur anyway, you suggest downloading an illegal and likely
hacked version from a torrent.
If the purchased or otherwise CD has its own *real COA* with it, it
provides a legal method to avoid illegal activities and provides "peace
of mind" to those who prefer to remain on the bright side of Laws.
We [you and I] discussed legal transference in win98.gen_discussion
several times over the course of years since 2006. There ARE ways and 98
products which can be transferred LEGALLY.
This the *98 networking* group, keep your personal trash and attempts
to further illegal torrent activities in an appropriate forum.


And yes, uTorrent is probably the best torrent program for win-98.


Any program which requires or relies upon JAVA, is, in itself, a
potential danger due to the inherent insecurities and vulnerabilities
internal to JAVA, such as the Azureus application.
Also so note: when connected via TOR as with any file sharing activity,
you have allowed access into your personal computer and network.

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  #17  
Old December 15th 09, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

On 12/15/2009 09:19 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
Hot-text top-poasted and full-quoted:

I can not why some one would not buy a new window 98 CD. for they
going for $0.50 to $15.00


Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?

The truth is that buying a win-98 cd from someone on e-bay is not the
same as buying a music or movie CD.

You probably will NOT have the legal rights to run win-98 even if you
have a real win-98 CD in your hands that you bought from e-bay.

In two hours you can torrent your own copy of win-98. No hassles with
e-bay or shipping or junk like that. There is no difference in buying a
win-98 cd from e-bay vs downloading it with a torrent. Microsoft would
have a problem with either method.


Absolutely stupid argument. So because you believe legal transference
will not occur anyway, you suggest downloading an illegal and likely
hacked version from a torrent.
If the purchased or otherwise CD has its own *real COA* with it, it
provides a legal method to avoid illegal activities and provides "peace
of mind" to those who prefer to remain on the bright side of Laws.
We [you and I] discussed legal transference in win98.gen_discussion
several times over the course of years since 2006. There ARE ways and 98
products which can be transferred LEGALLY.
This the *98 networking* group, keep your personal trash and attempts
to further illegal torrent activities in an appropriate forum.


And yes, uTorrent is probably the best torrent program for win-98.


Any program which requires or relies upon JAVA, is, in itself, a
potential danger due to the inherent insecurities and vulnerabilities
internal to JAVA, such as the Azureus application.
Also so note: when connected via TOR as with any file sharing activity,
you have allowed access into your personal computer and network.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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  #18  
Old December 16th 09, 03:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
98 Guy
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

MEB wrote:

Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?


Absolutely stupid argument. So because you believe legal
transference will not occur anyway, you suggest downloading
an illegal and likely hacked version from a torrent.


Yes I do.

And I've examined several such torrents and found them to be genuine -
not hacked.

If the purchased or otherwise CD has its own *real COA* with
it, it provides a legal method to avoid illegal activities


It does not garantee that the product key that accompanies the COA is
not still in use on a win-98 system being operated by or known to the
seller.

And there is no garantee that the COA will accompany the CD, or that
it's not a duplicate or a fake.

And there is no garantee that the CD/COA/Product-key is not for an OEM
version of win-98, one for which can't be installed on hardware other
than that for which it originally came installed on nor can be
transfered to a new owner WITHOUT the hardware on which it originally
came installed on.

and provides "peace of mind" to those who prefer to remain
on the bright side of Laws.


It does no such thing.

If someone wants to have a genuine win-98 CD, then fine - that's what
you *might* end up recieving from an e-bay vendor. If you're really
lucky, the CD and it's accompanying product key *might* be able to let
you install install itself on the hardware of your choice.

But that still doesn't mean that in the end you'll own and be operating
a valid license in the eyes of Microsoft.

Not that I'm against that. I fully support the downloading, uploading,
copying, sharing and using of all Microsoft software and product
activation keys in complete and utter violation of their EULA - because
Micro$haft is a psychopathic and criminal organization that does not
deserve protection under law of it's products.

This the *98 networking* group, keep your personal trash and
attempts to further illegal torrent activities in an
appropriate forum.


I didn't start this thread here in this newsgroup.
  #19  
Old December 16th 09, 03:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
98 Guy
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

MEB wrote:

Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?


Absolutely stupid argument. So because you believe legal
transference will not occur anyway, you suggest downloading
an illegal and likely hacked version from a torrent.


Yes I do.

And I've examined several such torrents and found them to be genuine -
not hacked.

If the purchased or otherwise CD has its own *real COA* with
it, it provides a legal method to avoid illegal activities


It does not garantee that the product key that accompanies the COA is
not still in use on a win-98 system being operated by or known to the
seller.

And there is no garantee that the COA will accompany the CD, or that
it's not a duplicate or a fake.

And there is no garantee that the CD/COA/Product-key is not for an OEM
version of win-98, one for which can't be installed on hardware other
than that for which it originally came installed on nor can be
transfered to a new owner WITHOUT the hardware on which it originally
came installed on.

and provides "peace of mind" to those who prefer to remain
on the bright side of Laws.


It does no such thing.

If someone wants to have a genuine win-98 CD, then fine - that's what
you *might* end up recieving from an e-bay vendor. If you're really
lucky, the CD and it's accompanying product key *might* be able to let
you install install itself on the hardware of your choice.

But that still doesn't mean that in the end you'll own and be operating
a valid license in the eyes of Microsoft.

Not that I'm against that. I fully support the downloading, uploading,
copying, sharing and using of all Microsoft software and product
activation keys in complete and utter violation of their EULA - because
Micro$haft is a psychopathic and criminal organization that does not
deserve protection under law of it's products.

This the *98 networking* group, keep your personal trash and
attempts to further illegal torrent activities in an
appropriate forum.


I didn't start this thread here in this newsgroup.
  #20  
Old December 16th 09, 06:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Default What's the best version of Azureus for Win98SE?

On 12/15/2009 09:32 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB wrote:

Why buy a win-98 cd from someone?

You think that that's the proper or legal way to obtain win-98?


Absolutely stupid argument. So because you believe legal
transference will not occur anyway, you suggest downloading
an illegal and likely hacked version from a torrent.


Yes I do.

And I've examined several such torrents and found them to be genuine -
not hacked.


Uhuh, so you're guaranteeing completely safe software from torrents.
Please supply your full name, phone number and address so anyone
following your advise can take legal action against you should they
received malware or be prosecuted.


If the purchased or otherwise CD has its own *real COA* with
it, it provides a legal method to avoid illegal activities


It does not garantee that the product key that accompanies the COA is
not still in use on a win-98 system being operated by or known to the
seller.

And there is no garantee that the COA will accompany the CD, or that
it's not a duplicate or a fake.

And there is no garantee that the CD/COA/Product-key is not for an OEM
version of win-98, one for which can't be installed on hardware other
than that for which it originally came installed on nor can be
transfered to a new owner WITHOUT the hardware on which it originally
came installed on.


All true to a point, however, there *IS* a guarantee that a Win9X or
other commercial software they download from a torrent IS ILLEGAL.


and provides "peace of mind" to those who prefer to remain
on the bright side of Laws.


It does no such thing.

If someone wants to have a genuine win-98 CD, then fine - that's what
you *might* end up recieving from an e-bay vendor. If you're really
lucky, the CD and it's accompanying product key *might* be able to let
you install install itself on the hardware of your choice.

But that still doesn't mean that in the end you'll own and be operating
a valid license in the eyes of Microsoft.

Not that I'm against that. I fully support the downloading, uploading,
copying, sharing and using of all Microsoft software and product
activation keys in complete and utter violation of their EULA - because
Micro$haft is a psychopathic and criminal organization that does not
deserve protection under law of it's products.


No, you are the psychopathic lier, a thief, and suffer from severe
mental disabilities. The key, official COA, and receipt, at least
provide reasonable recourse should that be necessary.


This the *98 networking* group, keep your personal trash and
attempts to further illegal torrent activities in an
appropriate forum.


I didn't start this thread here in this newsgroup.


But you did choose to attempt to further illegal activities, as usual.
The proper answer was to address the question with your suggested
uTorrent application. The other shows your normal trash and mental
handicap...

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