Restore/Norton Error

There is no such thing as a 'debug operation's before installing a NEW OS -
only in upgrading an existing one.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"bhaviland" wrote in message
...
Yup, I intend to perform a crispy-clean install of XP.
One thing that I wish I would have written down is the
procedure for performing a debug operation before
installing an operating system.
That is one of the things that Dell tech usually helps
with when they are working with me on one of their systems
still under warranty.
Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
Thanks for the update, but just a little worried about
your 'ultimate' goal.
Be sure to clear up ALL your WinMe issues BEFORE you
attempt to upgrade it
to XP (unless you intend to do a clean install)

Good luck

Mart



wrote in message
...
I am not sure why the system would not respond to
keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup menu
at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing the
input correctly, though I tried many different
techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS. That
has solved the problems with the system, at least for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install
that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my
wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself but 'assumed'
it
to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers (including
the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that couldn't
be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in
message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error' at
startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because
bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could
indicate a
more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup
when
you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a limited
number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything other
than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last
resort -
you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull you
out
of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic as a
format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in
message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore does
not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous
restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS
boot
from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how
to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"

wrote
in message
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix a
problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on
startup
and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol Panel,
My
Network
Places, and various other windows and
applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is the
only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down each
system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to fix
the
ME
operating system?


.







.



.

Woops. I have revealed my ignorance.
In any case, I plan to do a clean install.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
There is no such thing as a 'debug operation's before
installing a NEW OS -
only in upgrading an existing one.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote
in message
...
Yup, I intend to perform a crispy-clean install of XP.
One thing that I wish I would have written down is the
procedure for performing a debug operation before
installing an operating system.
That is one of the things that Dell tech usually helps
with when they are working with me on one of their
systems
still under warranty.
Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
Thanks for the update, but just a little worried about
your 'ultimate' goal.
Be sure to clear up ALL your WinMe issues BEFORE you
attempt to upgrade it
to XP (unless you intend to do a clean install)

Good luck

Mart



wrote in message
...
I am not sure why the system would not respond to
keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup
menu
at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing
the
input correctly, though I tried many different
techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS.
That
has solved the problems with the system, at least
for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open
than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install
that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my
wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be
running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself
but 'assumed'
it
to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers
(including
the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that
couldn't
be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote
in
message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error'
at
startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because
bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could
indicate a
more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup
when
you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a
limited
number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything
other
than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how
to
post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last
resort -
you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull
you
out
of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic
as a
format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in
message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore
does
not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous
restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore
operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS
boot
from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on
how
to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"

wrote
in message
news:267001c4704c$456922c0
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix
a
problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on
startup
and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol
Panel,
My
Network
Places, and various other windows and
applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is
the
only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down
each
system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to
fix
the
ME
operating system?


.







.



.



.

Woops. I have revealed my ignorance.

We've all been there!! Good luck with your install, I'm sure that you'll
like XP.

Mart

BTW - Cheers Noel and thanks for sticking with the thread too.


"bhaviland" wrote in message
...
Woops. I have revealed my ignorance.
In any case, I plan to do a clean install.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
There is no such thing as a 'debug operation's before
installing a NEW OS -
only in upgrading an existing one.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland" wrote
in message
...
Yup, I intend to perform a crispy-clean install of XP.
One thing that I wish I would have written down is the
procedure for performing a debug operation before
installing an operating system.
That is one of the things that Dell tech usually helps
with when they are working with me on one of their
systems
still under warranty.
Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
Thanks for the update, but just a little worried about
your 'ultimate' goal.
Be sure to clear up ALL your WinMe issues BEFORE you
attempt to upgrade it
to XP (unless you intend to do a clean install)

Good luck

Mart



wrote in message
...
I am not sure why the system would not respond to
keyboard
input during startup, but it did go to the startup
menu
at
least one more time. Perhaps I was just not timing
the
input correctly, though I tried many different
techniques.
hehe.
I did end up re-installing Windows over the old OS.
That
has solved the problems with the system, at least
for a
while. My folders now take somewhat longer to open
than
they used to.
Ultimately, I intend to get a copy of XP and install
that
and give the machine to one of my daughters while my
wife
and I get new machines. That way we will all be
running
the same OS again.
Thanks for the replies.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Yes Noel, I did wonder about that myself
but 'assumed'
it
to be 'post BIOS'
i.e. during the loading of the WinMe drivers
(including
the keyboard) with a
sufficiently damaged/corrupted registry that
couldn't
be 'Fixed'

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote
in
message
...
The thing that worries me is the 'keyboard error'
at
startup - it may
simply
be that the system is responding normally because
bhaviland is pressing
the
'wrong' keys at the wrong time - or it could
indicate a
more serious
hardware fault.

bhaviland - what keys are you pressing at startup
when
you get the
error?? -
the system is designed to respond only to a
limited
number of keys -
usually
only DEL, ESC, F1,F5,F8 will produce anything
other
than a keyboard error.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how
to
post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
If scanreg /fix doesn't help then - as a last
resort -
you *may* get
away
with a scanreg /restore. It *might* just pull
you
out
of the mire - at
least
sufficiently to let you get the keyboard back.

Failing that - and maybe not quite so drastic
as a
format - you could
try
a
re-install.
See Noel's pages at :-
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm

Good luck

Mart


wrote in
message
...
One other thing: As I stated, System Restore
does
not
display or run properly, so undoing a previous
restore is
not an option.
-bhaviland

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried undoing the Restore
operation?
Have you tried uninstalling NAV?
Try "SCANREG /FIX" from Start|Run (or a DOS
boot
from
floppy) - Windows
will reboot

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on
how
to post
messages to NG's

"bhaviland"

wrote
in message
news:267001c4704c$456922c0
...
I reset windows to an earlier state to fix
a
problem but
forgot to stop Norton AV from running on
startup
and now
the Help Menu, System Restore, Contol
Panel,
My
Network
Places, and various other windows and
applications will
not open, display, and run correctly.
Dell tech has decided that a reformat is
the
only
solution. I don't want to, yet.
Is there any way, short of tracking down
each
system
malfunction and manually fixing them, to
fix
the
ME
operating system?


.







.



.



.