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Old August 12th 06, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
helpMe
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Default clean install of Win2K

I just about given up on trying to do a clean install of my Win Me system. My
Win Me system was packaged with an IBM NetVista desktop with IBM recovery
CDs. I do have (from work) a WIN 2K install CD (with key). Can I do a clean
install of WIN 2K (after FDISK (SINGLE PARTITION) , FORMAT) or would the IBM
NetVista be looking ("hardcoded") for the WIN Me system and not let me
install anything else? Any cleaning out of the hard drive I need to do to
completely eliminate Win Me? I hope I can do this because I've given up on
WIN Me. Thanks for your help....Desparate
  #2  
Old August 12th 06, 09:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default clean install of Win2K

I just about given up on trying to do a clean install of my Win Me
system.


What problems are you having?

Can I do a clean install of WIN 2K


No reason why you should not if that is what you want. Your PC won't know
the difference. Whilst your Win Me recovery disks are probably tied for
use only on your NetVista the reverse is unlikely to be true. In other
words I doubt there is anything to stop you installing what operating
system you want on your PC subject to it meeting the minimum system
requirements for the chosen operating system and the necessary drivers
being available.

I hope I can do this because I've given up on WIN Me.


Why? If you are having problems post details and someone should be able
to help you.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



helpMe wrote:

I just about given up on trying to do a clean install of my Win Me
system. My Win Me system was packaged with an IBM NetVista desktop
with IBM recovery CDs. I do have (from work) a WIN 2K install CD
(with key). Can I do a clean install of WIN 2K (after FDISK (SINGLE
PARTITION) , FORMAT) or would the IBM NetVista be looking
("hardcoded") for the WIN Me system and not let me install anything
else? Any cleaning out of the hard drive I need to do to completely
eliminate Win Me? I hope I can do this because I've given up on WIN
Me. Thanks for your help....Desparate


  #3  
Old August 12th 06, 09:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
helpMe
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Posts: 16
Default clean install of Win2K

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried everything with
no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window after clean install".
Thanks for your quick response and help.

"Mike M" wrote:

I just about given up on trying to do a clean install of my Win Me
system.


What problems are you having?

Can I do a clean install of WIN 2K


No reason why you should not if that is what you want. Your PC won't know
the difference. Whilst your Win Me recovery disks are probably tied for
use only on your NetVista the reverse is unlikely to be true. In other
words I doubt there is anything to stop you installing what operating
system you want on your PC subject to it meeting the minimum system
requirements for the chosen operating system and the necessary drivers
being available.

I hope I can do this because I've given up on WIN Me.


Why? If you are having problems post details and someone should be able
to help you.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



helpMe wrote:

I just about given up on trying to do a clean install of my Win Me
system. My Win Me system was packaged with an IBM NetVista desktop
with IBM recovery CDs. I do have (from work) a WIN 2K install CD
(with key). Can I do a clean install of WIN 2K (after FDISK (SINGLE
PARTITION) , FORMAT) or would the IBM NetVista be looking
("hardcoded") for the WIN Me system and not let me install anything
else? Any cleaning out of the hard drive I need to do to completely
eliminate Win Me? I hope I can do this because I've given up on WIN
Me. Thanks for your help....Desparate



  #4  
Old August 12th 06, 10:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default clean install of Win2K

Freezes such as you mention are usually due to hardware or driver
problems. Have you ever previously managed to restore your system using
the IBM recovery CDs? If not then I suspect they are the cause of the
problem and contain an incorrect driver for your system. Alternatively
what hardware changes have been made to your PC since it was first
delivered? When installing from the recovery CDs make sure that you have
no external devices connected to the system such as printers, scanners or
any usb devices, just the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried
everything with no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window
after clean install". Thanks for your quick response and help.


  #5  
Old August 12th 06, 11:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
helpMe
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Default clean install of Win2K

Hi Mike M. No I never used the IBM recovery CDs until now. I have taken all
the external devices off the system. Only have keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
still have the original ethernet card and telephone jack card installed. I
did remove them during one iteration of my many different boots and still had
the problem. The freeze now occurs much earlier in setup. I now never get to
the desktop window as before. It now freezes during setup when loading
hardware drivers. When I reboot it goes back into setup and says "Windows has
found the following new hardwa" but no hardware is listed, just a blank
line. When I hit finish to get out of it (also tried pointing to every
imaginable location for drivers) I get SURegCreateKey failed and it locks
again. When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu with Command Prompt
highlighted. I can do a Scandisk successfully but Scanreg /fix gets errors
and can't repair the registry. Safe mode also locks up. I have also tried to
install Win 2K Pro today and it freezes on the Win 2K Pro splash screen with
the starting up progress bar about half way through. I have added a flat
panel screen but have removed that and attached the original video monitor
before I tried the Me setup/clean install. Thanks for your help!

"Mike M" wrote:

Freezes such as you mention are usually due to hardware or driver
problems. Have you ever previously managed to restore your system using
the IBM recovery CDs? If not then I suspect they are the cause of the
problem and contain an incorrect driver for your system. Alternatively
what hardware changes have been made to your PC since it was first
delivered? When installing from the recovery CDs make sure that you have
no external devices connected to the system such as printers, scanners or
any usb devices, just the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried
everything with no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window
after clean install". Thanks for your quick response and help.



  #6  
Old August 13th 06, 12:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mart
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Default clean install of Win2K

Hi hM, I noticed your reference to SURegCreateKey failed. See :-

"SURegCreateKey Failed" Error Message Appears When Installing a Program
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305668/en-us

Just wonder if you are really performing a 'Clean Installation' rather than
a Clean Boot, or are you perhaps actually attempting to 'Over-Install' on a
your hard drive which may still contain data. i.e. - are you using the
correct option with your Recovery CD?

Did you, (or did the Recovery CD) re-format your C: drive (or at least
delete its contents) before you started to re-install?

Mart



"helpMe" wrote in message
...
Hi Mike M. No I never used the IBM recovery CDs until now. I have taken
all
the external devices off the system. Only have keyboard, mouse and
monitor. I
still have the original ethernet card and telephone jack card installed. I
did remove them during one iteration of my many different boots and still
had
the problem. The freeze now occurs much earlier in setup. I now never get
to
the desktop window as before. It now freezes during setup when loading
hardware drivers. When I reboot it goes back into setup and says "Windows
has
found the following new hardwa" but no hardware is listed, just a blank
line. When I hit finish to get out of it (also tried pointing to every
imaginable location for drivers) I get SURegCreateKey failed and it locks
again. When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu with Command
Prompt
highlighted. I can do a Scandisk successfully but Scanreg /fix gets errors
and can't repair the registry. Safe mode also locks up. I have also tried
to
install Win 2K Pro today and it freezes on the Win 2K Pro splash screen
with
the starting up progress bar about half way through. I have added a flat
panel screen but have removed that and attached the original video monitor
before I tried the Me setup/clean install. Thanks for your help!

"Mike M" wrote:

Freezes such as you mention are usually due to hardware or driver
problems. Have you ever previously managed to restore your system using
the IBM recovery CDs? If not then I suspect they are the cause of the
problem and contain an incorrect driver for your system. Alternatively
what hardware changes have been made to your PC since it was first
delivered? When installing from the recovery CDs make sure that you have
no external devices connected to the system such as printers, scanners or
any usb devices, just the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried
everything with no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window
after clean install". Thanks for your quick response and help.





  #7  
Old August 13th 06, 04:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
helpMe
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Posts: 16
Default clean install of Win2K

Hi Mart, yes I did do a clean install, FDISK (erased partition, created new
single partition, then a FORMAT (FAT32). Also, when the recovery CDs start
they also do a FORMAT and then install Win Me and all the drivers. So, I
believe I'm cleaning out the hard drive. Thanks.

"Mart" wrote:

Hi hM, I noticed your reference to SURegCreateKey failed. See :-

"SURegCreateKey Failed" Error Message Appears When Installing a Program
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305668/en-us

Just wonder if you are really performing a 'Clean Installation' rather than
a Clean Boot, or are you perhaps actually attempting to 'Over-Install' on a
your hard drive which may still contain data. i.e. - are you using the
correct option with your Recovery CD?

Did you, (or did the Recovery CD) re-format your C: drive (or at least
delete its contents) before you started to re-install?

Mart



"helpMe" wrote in message
...
Hi Mike M. No I never used the IBM recovery CDs until now. I have taken
all
the external devices off the system. Only have keyboard, mouse and
monitor. I
still have the original ethernet card and telephone jack card installed. I
did remove them during one iteration of my many different boots and still
had
the problem. The freeze now occurs much earlier in setup. I now never get
to
the desktop window as before. It now freezes during setup when loading
hardware drivers. When I reboot it goes back into setup and says "Windows
has
found the following new hardwa" but no hardware is listed, just a blank
line. When I hit finish to get out of it (also tried pointing to every
imaginable location for drivers) I get SURegCreateKey failed and it locks
again. When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu with Command
Prompt
highlighted. I can do a Scandisk successfully but Scanreg /fix gets errors
and can't repair the registry. Safe mode also locks up. I have also tried
to
install Win 2K Pro today and it freezes on the Win 2K Pro splash screen
with
the starting up progress bar about half way through. I have added a flat
panel screen but have removed that and attached the original video monitor
before I tried the Me setup/clean install. Thanks for your help!

"Mike M" wrote:

Freezes such as you mention are usually due to hardware or driver
problems. Have you ever previously managed to restore your system using
the IBM recovery CDs? If not then I suspect they are the cause of the
problem and contain an incorrect driver for your system. Alternatively
what hardware changes have been made to your PC since it was first
delivered? When installing from the recovery CDs make sure that you have
no external devices connected to the system such as printers, scanners or
any usb devices, just the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried
everything with no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window
after clean install". Thanks for your quick response and help.





  #8  
Old August 13th 06, 07:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mart
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Default clean install of Win2K

Ok, I agree, so that eliminates any worries there then.

So it now points back to hardware/driver issues and from your earlier
description, your video card/driver is top of my list of suspects. Oh, and
BTW - did you try making fresh copies of your Recovery CD's?

However, I'm still worried as to why you seem unable to boot into Safe Mode.

... When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu
with Command Prompt highlighted.


Not quite sure how you've got there, but getting back to trying to start in
Safe Mode (and I guess you've tried all combinations - either the F8, Ctrl
or the Shift keys - during the boot sequence),

At what point does it fail?
Don't you even get the DOS WinMe Startup Menu with the four choices?

BTW - You might find the following site useful :-
IBM - Software and device drivers - NetVista 2251, 2271, 6830, 6831, 6840,
6841
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/si...id=MIGR-4S237K

Mart


"helpMe" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart, yes I did do a clean install, FDISK (erased partition, created
new
single partition, then a FORMAT (FAT32). Also, when the recovery CDs start
they also do a FORMAT and then install Win Me and all the drivers. So, I
believe I'm cleaning out the hard drive. Thanks.

"Mart" wrote:

Hi hM, I noticed your reference to SURegCreateKey failed. See :-

"SURegCreateKey Failed" Error Message Appears When Installing a Program
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305668/en-us

Just wonder if you are really performing a 'Clean Installation' rather
than
a Clean Boot, or are you perhaps actually attempting to 'Over-Install' on
a
your hard drive which may still contain data. i.e. - are you using the
correct option with your Recovery CD?

Did you, (or did the Recovery CD) re-format your C: drive (or at least
delete its contents) before you started to re-install?

Mart



"helpMe" wrote in message
...
Hi Mike M. No I never used the IBM recovery CDs until now. I have taken
all
the external devices off the system. Only have keyboard, mouse and
monitor. I
still have the original ethernet card and telephone jack card
installed. I
did remove them during one iteration of my many different boots and
still
had
the problem. The freeze now occurs much earlier in setup. I now never
get
to
the desktop window as before. It now freezes during setup when loading
hardware drivers. When I reboot it goes back into setup and says
"Windows
has
found the following new hardwa" but no hardware is listed, just a
blank
line. When I hit finish to get out of it (also tried pointing to every
imaginable location for drivers) I get SURegCreateKey failed and it
locks
again. When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu with Command
Prompt
highlighted. I can do a Scandisk successfully but Scanreg /fix gets
errors
and can't repair the registry. Safe mode also locks up. I have also
tried
to
install Win 2K Pro today and it freezes on the Win 2K Pro splash screen
with
the starting up progress bar about half way through. I have added a
flat
panel screen but have removed that and attached the original video
monitor
before I tried the Me setup/clean install. Thanks for your help!

"Mike M" wrote:

Freezes such as you mention are usually due to hardware or driver
problems. Have you ever previously managed to restore your system
using
the IBM recovery CDs? If not then I suspect they are the cause of the
problem and contain an incorrect driver for your system.
Alternatively
what hardware changes have been made to your PC since it was first
delivered? When installing from the recovery CDs make sure that you
have
no external devices connected to the system such as printers, scanners
or
any usb devices, just the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mike M. I did post my Me clean install problems and tried
everything with no luck. See post below "Me freezes at destop window
after clean install". Thanks for your quick response and help.







  #9  
Old August 13th 06, 11:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default clean install of Win2K

I'm starting to wonder whether the problem is a defective or failing hard
disk as this could explain the registry errors being seen and also
possibly the other problems. Alternatively a problem with RAM. You can
check your RAM for yourself using a program like DocMemory 2.0 which can
be downloaded free
http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/docinfo.asp. This program can
be extracted to a floppy and I would then suggest leaving it running for
a couple of hours to see what errors, if any, it reports. If none, then
you can discount memory as being the cause of the problem.


Like Mart I'm also a little intrigued by
... When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu
with Command Prompt highlighted.

What menu are you referring to here? The Win Me Startup Menu doesn't have
an option to boot to a Command Prompt the options being 1. Normal 2.
Logged 3. Safe Mode and 4. Step-by-step confirmation. Perhaps I'm missing
something not having followed your previous thread.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mart, yes I did do a clean install, FDISK (erased partition,
created new single partition, then a FORMAT (FAT32). Also, when the
recovery CDs start they also do a FORMAT and then install Win Me and
all the drivers. So, I believe I'm cleaning out the hard drive.
Thanks.


  #10  
Old August 13th 06, 12:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
Default clean install of Win2K

Hi Mike, hM claims to have already run scandisk (hopefully in DOS with a
surface scan too g) and checked his RAM, as I'd suggested in the previous
thread :-

I've tried ... scandisk /all (comes up clean)
Hi Mart, .... I did test my memory chips using
Simmtester's DocMemory and everything checked out fine.


and so I guess that brings us back to the Safe Mode boot option menu - or
this other 'startup menu' screen hM is seeing.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
I'm starting to wonder whether the problem is a defective or failing hard
disk as this could explain the registry errors being seen and also
possibly the other problems. Alternatively a problem with RAM. You can
check your RAM for yourself using a program like DocMemory 2.0 which can
be downloaded free
http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/docinfo.asp. This program can
be extracted to a floppy and I would then suggest leaving it running for
a couple of hours to see what errors, if any, it reports. If none, then
you can discount memory as being the cause of the problem.


Like Mart I'm also a little intrigued by
... When I reboot it goes right into the start up menu
with Command Prompt highlighted.

What menu are you referring to here? The Win Me Startup Menu doesn't have
an option to boot to a Command Prompt the options being 1. Normal 2.
Logged 3. Safe Mode and 4. Step-by-step confirmation. Perhaps I'm missing
something not having followed your previous thread.
--
Mike Maltby



helpMe wrote:

Hi Mart, yes I did do a clean install, FDISK (erased partition,
created new single partition, then a FORMAT (FAT32). Also, when the
recovery CDs start they also do a FORMAT and then install Win Me and
all the drivers. So, I believe I'm cleaning out the hard drive.
Thanks.




 




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