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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
I had a Win98 and WinME working fine peer-to-peer with ICS for a few weeks.
The Win98 operated as ICS-host. The shared internet was via a wireless Wan card connected to an outdoor antenna. In the mean time, the Win98 is now changed to work with a DSL modem. The modem is connected via USB to the Win98 at a Hub. Internet access is fine at the Win98 Pc. File network sharing is working ok between the two computers too. But the client WinME pc can't see the internet. Could someone please advise what can be adjusted on the Winme PC if possible? Here are the "ipconfig /all" dumps of both computers: ============= Win98 (ICS Host): ============= Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : WIN98.no-domain-set.bellcanada DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO PCI Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-83-99-B4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 2 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-13-A3-E5-EA-C6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 10 05 06 4:57:51 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 10 08 06 4:57:51 PM =========== WinME(client): =========== Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : TIM DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0C-76-28-C1-C2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
In article , "Ogg"
wrote: I had a Win98 and WinME working fine peer-to-peer with ICS for a few weeks. The Win98 operated as ICS-host. The shared internet was via a wireless Wan card connected to an outdoor antenna. In the mean time, the Win98 is now changed to work with a DSL modem. The modem is connected via USB to the Win98 at a Hub. Internet access is fine at the Win98 Pc. File network sharing is working ok between the two computers too. But the client WinME pc can't see the internet. Could someone please advise what can be adjusted on the Winme PC if possible? Here are the "ipconfig /all" dumps of both computers: ============= Win98 (ICS Host): ============= Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : WIN98.no-domain-set.bellcanada DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO PCI Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-83-99-B4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 2 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-13-A3-E5-EA-C6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 10 05 06 4:57:51 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 10 08 06 4:57:51 PM =========== WinME(client): =========== Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : TIM DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0C-76-28-C1-C2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : You've configured the WinMe(Client) computer's IP address manually, but you didn't specify Default Gateway and DNS Server addresses. Set them both to 192.168.0.1. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
Hello, Steve!
You wrote on Sat, 07 Oct 2006 03:32:14 -0600: =========== WinME(client): =========== Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : TIM DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0C-76-28-C1-C2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : SWM You've configured the WinMe(Client) computer's IP address manually, SWM but you didn't specify Default Gateway and DNS Server addresses. SWM Set them both to 192.168.0.1. Thankyou! Will try that. Will I have to manually enable "DHCP server" on the client too? I was comparing ipconfig /all results of a similar setup between a WinME(ICS host) and an XP(client).. and the DHCP Server is "enabled" on both computers. |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
In article , "Ogg"
wrote: Hello, Steve! You wrote on Sat, 07 Oct 2006 03:32:14 -0600: =========== WinME(client): =========== Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : TIM DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No 0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0C-76-28-C1-C2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . : SWM You've configured the WinMe(Client) computer's IP address manually, SWM but you didn't specify Default Gateway and DNS Server addresses. SWM Set them both to 192.168.0.1. Thankyou! Will try that. Will I have to manually enable "DHCP server" on the client too? I was comparing ipconfig /all results of a similar setup between a WinME(ICS host) and an XP(client).. and the DHCP Server is "enabled" on both computers. You're welcome, Ogg. If you configure the client computer's TCP/IP properties manually (disabling DHCP), you have to specify the Default Gateway and DNS Server. Unless you have a specific reason for configuring the client computer manually, configure it to obtain an IP address automatically (enabling DHCP). The host computer's DHCP server will automatically make the necessary settings. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
Hello, Steve!
You wrote on Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:37:46 -0600: SWM If you configure the client computer's TCP/IP properties SWM manually (disabling DHCP), you have to specify the SWM Default Gateway and DNS Server. SWM Unless you have a specific reason for configuring the client SWM computer manually, configure it to obtain an IP address SWM automatically (enabling DHCP). The host computer's SWM DHCP server will automatically make the necessary settings. I'm not sure what happend and why the "automatically detect" was not selected.. maybe I wanted to ensure that the peer-client was actually using the standard 192.168.0.2 address for itself and not attempting assign something else. Despite that, it looks like the Win98(Host) wants to use 192.168.2.1, and not the 192.168.0.1 that I expected it should as shown by the following: Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-13-A3-E5-EA-C6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Furthermore.. I'm concerned about the "IP address" at 192.168.2.10. That appears to resemble an internal IP address that one would see behind a router. But the setup has no router.. It has a Speedstream 4200 modem. Eventually I want to be able to use a VNC server from the Win98(Host) pc. But it looks like it will be impossible if the ICSHARE doesn't see a "real" IP address. Right? |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
In article , "Ogg"
wrote: Hello, Steve! You wrote on Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:37:46 -0600: SWM If you configure the client computer's TCP/IP properties SWM manually (disabling DHCP), you have to specify the SWM Default Gateway and DNS Server. SWM Unless you have a specific reason for configuring the client SWM computer manually, configure it to obtain an IP address SWM automatically (enabling DHCP). The host computer's SWM DHCP server will automatically make the necessary settings. I'm not sure what happend and why the "automatically detect" was not selected.. maybe I wanted to ensure that the peer-client was actually using the standard 192.168.0.2 address for itself and not attempting assign something else. Despite that, it looks like the Win98(Host) wants to use 192.168.2.1, and not the 192.168.0.1 that I expected it should as shown by the following: Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-13-A3-E5-EA-C6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 Furthermore.. I'm concerned about the "IP address" at 192.168.2.10. That appears to resemble an internal IP address that one would see behind a router. But the setup has no router.. It has a Speedstream 4200 modem. Eventually I want to be able to use a VNC server from the Win98(Host) pc. But it looks like it will be impossible if the ICSHARE doesn't see a "real" IP address. Right? Your ICS host computer has two network adapters: 1. The "ICSHARE Adapter" is the shared Internet connection, which is invisible to the client computer. The 192.168.2.10 address is assigned to this adapter by the Speedstream modem. 2. The "Intel(R) PRO PCI Adapter" connects to the client computer. This adapter has IP address 192.168.0.1, assigned to it by ICS. The client computer must have a compatible 192.168.0.x address, with the Default Gateway and DNS Server settings that I indicated previously. To allow a computer on the Internet to access the client computer's VNC server, you'll have to configure both the Speedstream modem and the ICS host computer to open holes in their firewalls and forward VNC packets to the client computer. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
Hello, Steve!
You wrote on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:32:49 -0600: SWM Your ICS host computer has two network adapters: SWM 1. The "ICSHARE Adapter" is the shared Internet connection, which SWM is invisible to the client computer. ... It's been a long while since I ever looked at ICS. I should have realized the "invisible" part! Thanks. SWM To allow a computer on the Internet to access the client computer's SWM VNC server, you'll have to configure both the Speedstream modem and SWM the ICS host computer to open holes in their firewalls and forward SWM VNC packets to the client computer. I'm familiar with using a couple of ICSconfig tools. Opening holes in ICS should go well. I just never had to deal with a Speedstream 4200 before. Apparently it's modem that is only sold to ISPs as part of their DSL package to customers, so there is little info on manual configuration of the model. The interface via http:// 192.168.2.10 is really minimal! Meanwhile, I found a manual online which I hope will help. |
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winme(client) and win98(ICS)
In article , "Ogg"
wrote: Hello, Steve! You wrote on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:32:49 -0600: SWM Your ICS host computer has two network adapters: SWM 1. The "ICSHARE Adapter" is the shared Internet connection, which SWM is invisible to the client computer. ... It's been a long while since I ever looked at ICS. I should have realized the "invisible" part! Thanks. SWM To allow a computer on the Internet to access the client computer's SWM VNC server, you'll have to configure both the Speedstream modem and SWM the ICS host computer to open holes in their firewalls and forward SWM VNC packets to the client computer. I'm familiar with using a couple of ICSconfig tools. Opening holes in ICS should go well. I just never had to deal with a Speedstream 4200 before. Apparently it's modem that is only sold to ISPs as part of their DSL package to customers, so there is little info on manual configuration of the model. The interface via http:// 192.168.2.10 is really minimal! Meanwhile, I found a manual online which I hope will help. You're welcome, Ogg. I hope that the Speedstream 4200 manual has the right stuff for you. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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