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Old June 18th 08, 07:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jason James
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason







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Old June 18th 08, 10:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ron Badour
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

You are probably not going to find any new printers that have W98SE drivers.
For example, see this HP article:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...=441125&dlc=en

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Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"Jason James" wrote in message
...
I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some
cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision
I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason









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Old June 18th 08, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dlsayremn
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

Jason,

My Gateway 98SE has only two USB ports on the back. On one I have a 4 port
adaptor with Boston USB speakers and USB KB with USB mouse. The other I have
a 4 port adaptor with USR wireless adaptor and USB connector for a 3 year old
HP 1410v PSC. This works.

Ron is right about support for 98 at HP, not sure about any one else. I went
to get updated drivers for my printer and could not access any updates for
ME/98SE/98 even though they were listed and I was able to get them 2 months
ago. So be sure to check the box to see if the printer you buy will work with
98SE.

DLSayre



"Jason James" wrote:

I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason








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Old June 18th 08, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

What model HP printer do you have?

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"dlsayremn" wrote in message
...
Jason,

My Gateway 98SE has only two USB ports on the back. On one I have a 4
port
adaptor with Boston USB speakers and USB KB with USB mouse. The other I
have
a 4 port adaptor with USR wireless adaptor and USB connector for a 3 year
old
HP 1410v PSC. This works.

Ron is right about support for 98 at HP, not sure about any one else. I
went
to get updated drivers for my printer and could not access any updates
for
ME/98SE/98 even though they were listed and I was able to get them 2
months
ago. So be sure to check the box to see if the printer you buy will work
with
98SE.

DLSayre



"Jason James" wrote:

I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some
cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision
I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason










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Old June 18th 08, 06:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

What you see in Device manager is what you'd see for that double-port, to
answer one of your questions. The first device is the USB controller on the
motherboard, the second item is the part keyboard itself, the Hub it the
unit that is connected to and mounted right on the mobo in this case. The
hub has two ports.

As for printers... Those USB ports on your machine are almost certainly USB
1.1 and that means slow. Since things like printers have gotten used to
straight network connection or fast USB2, even with an Parallel port
adapter, and assuming there are even drivers for your system, they aren't
likely to work well if at all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jason James" wrote in message
...
I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some
cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision
I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason









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Old June 18th 08, 06:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

I should have added that you can get a PCI card with USB2 hub(s) & ports
that will work in Windows 98SE (but not the original version of Win98) and
if you can find a printer with Win98SE drivers, that's the way I would go.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
What you see in Device manager is what you'd see for that double-port, to
answer one of your questions. The first device is the USB controller on
the motherboard, the second item is the part keyboard itself, the Hub it
the unit that is connected to and mounted right on the mobo in this case.
The hub has two ports.

As for printers... Those USB ports on your machine are almost certainly
USB 1.1 and that means slow. Since things like printers have gotten used
to straight network connection or fast USB2, even with an Parallel port
adapter, and assuming there are even drivers for your system, they aren't
likely to work well if at all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jason James" wrote in message
...
I have just one more question re the USB facilities on my 98se PC.

After I successfully plugged a new KB into 1 of 2 USB ports on the rear
panel, (initially I thought there was only one) I was looking at some
cheap
printer/scanners etc for $69. But like
all peripherals these days they are USB. I understand that a converter
adapter may get me back into the parallel port,..but before that decision
I
had a look at "System Properties" then "Device manager" then opened 3
headings under "USB Controllers"

1st Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USBUniversal Host Controller (exists in all
hardware profiles)

2nd USB Composite Device (exists in all hardware profiles)

3rd USB Root hub (exists in all hardware profiles)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Does this info indicate anything meaningfull about the 2 USB ports on the
PC, in particular whether a printer can be connected to second USB, or
whether a piggy back to the 1st (which currently has the KB).

TIA,..Jason

Jason











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Old June 18th 08, 10:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jason James
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
I should have added that you can get a PCI card with USB2 hub(s) & ports
that will work in Windows 98SE (but not the original version of Win98) and
if you can find a printer with Win98SE drivers, that's the way I would go.



Much obliged Gary,..Jason


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Old June 18th 08, 10:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jason James
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Posts: 21
Default Question re USB features on win98se PC


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
You are probably not going to find any new printers that have W98SE

drivers.
For example, see this HP article:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...=441125&dlc=en

Thanx for that Ron. I'll do a search of the different printers on sale.
Never know, one brand may support 98se if it's old stock.

Jason


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Old June 18th 08, 10:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jason James
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Posts: 21
Default Question re USB features on win98se PC


"dlsayremn" wrote in message
...
Jason,

My Gateway 98SE has only two USB ports on the back. On one I have a 4

port
adaptor with Boston USB speakers and USB KB with USB mouse. The other I

have
a 4 port adaptor with USR wireless adaptor and USB connector for a 3 year

old
HP 1410v PSC. This works.

Ron is right about support for 98 at HP, not sure about any one else. I

went
to get updated drivers for my printer and could not access any updates

for
ME/98SE/98 even though they were listed and I was able to get them 2

months
ago. So be sure to check the box to see if the printer you buy will work

with
98SE.


Thanx for that info DLS. Much obliged,..Jason


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Old June 19th 08, 12:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Franc Zabkar
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Default Question re USB features on win98se PC

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:30:03 -0700, dlsayremn
put finger to keyboard and
composed:

Jason,

My Gateway 98SE has only two USB ports on the back. On one I have a 4 port
adaptor with Boston USB speakers and USB KB with USB mouse. The other I have
a 4 port adaptor with USR wireless adaptor and USB connector for a 3 year old
HP 1410v PSC. This works.

Ron is right about support for 98 at HP, not sure about any one else. I went
to get updated drivers for my printer and could not access any updates for
ME/98SE/98 even though they were listed and I was able to get them 2 months
ago. So be sure to check the box to see if the printer you buy will work with
98SE.

DLSayre


I notice that the Win2K and XP downloads appear to be the same size
(48MB/310MB) and version (5.3.0b). Perhaps the Win98/ME drivers are
included in the same bundle?

In fact the Win9X/ME drivers *were* included in the 48MB 2K/XP
package. If you check the %temp% directory before the installer begins
the installation, you will see that it creates a temporary
subdirectory named ...

HP_WebRelease\common\drivers\win9x_me

- Franc Zabkar
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