win 98 se under Xp using MS virtual pc 2007

Is anyone running a win 98 se virtual machine under XP using ms virtual PC
2007?

FACE

Not at the moment. Do you have a problem?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"FACE" wrote in message
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Is anyone running a win 98 se virtual machine under XP using ms virtual PC
2007?

FACE

Yes

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"FACE" wrote in message
...
Is anyone running a win 98 se virtual machine under XP using ms virtual PC
2007?

FACE

From "Gary S. Terhune" none, in microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:06:58 -0700 :

Not at the moment. Do you have a problem?

I have a question. Actual several questions.

To set up the scenario:

I have a physical XP Pro machine, it has two separate hard disks, C and D.
On physical drive D, I have two virtual machines. One is XP (not relevant
here) and one is Win98 SE.
The two virtual machines share a folder (VMA is installed on both)
It is known to both as "drive Z".


As I described this elsewhere..........

On the win 98 virtual machine. I noticed that MSINFO32, run from the
virtual machine said "drive Z" was formatted FAT32 (It's really NTFS) and it
was the remaining size of my real D disk. What it really is, is a single
subdirectory on my real XP D drive, defined as a "shared folder" through
which I can have one machine communicate with the other. (You have to
install "Virtual Machine Additions" for that) The virtual C drive is not as
big as shown either. It is dynamic and expands as necessary *until* it gets
to that size. So far as i know, virtual drive C really is formatted as
FAT32. At least I got the "formatting drive C" and increasing percentage
on install. BUT, since it is dynamic and expanding, how could it be
reformatted space? I could understand static space being reformatted --
it's just a file to XP.

Install also claimed to have set up a partition on the C virtual
disk.....that would be static space, except it is dynamic. How can that be?

FACE

From "Ron Badour" , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:33:35 -0500 :

Yes

Thanks.

I have a question. Actually several questions.

To set up the scenario:

I have a physical XP Pro machine, it has two separate hard disks, C and D.
On physical drive D, I have two virtual machines. One is XP (not relevant
here) and one is Win98 SE.
The two virtual machines share a folder (VMA is installed on both)
It is known to both as "drive Z".


As I described this elsewhere..........

On the win 98 virtual machine. I noticed that MSINFO32, run from the
virtual machine said "drive Z" was formatted FAT32 (It's really NTFS) and it
was the remaining size of my real D disk. What it really is, is a single
subdirectory on my real XP D drive, defined as a "shared folder" through
which I can have one machine communicate with the other. (You have to
install "Virtual Machine Additions" for that) The virtual C drive is not as
big as shown either. It is dynamic and expands as necessary *until* it gets
to that size. So far as i know, virtual drive C really is formatted as
FAT32. At least I got the "formatting drive C" and increasing percentage
on install. BUT, since it is dynamic and expanding, how could it be
reformatted space? I could understand static space being reformatted --
it's just a file to XP.

Install also claimed to have set up a partition on the C virtual
disk.....that would be static space, except it is dynamic. How can that be?

FACE

From FACE , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:34 -0400 :

From "Ron Badour" , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:33:35 -0500 :

Yes

Thanks.

I have a question. Actually several questions.

To set up the scenario:

I have a physical XP Pro machine, it has two separate hard disks, C and D.
On physical drive D, I have two virtual machines. One is XP (not relevant
here) and one is Win98 SE.
The two virtual machines share a folder (VMA is installed on both)
It is known to both as "drive Z".


As I described this elsewhere..........

On the win 98 virtual machine. I noticed that MSINFO32, run from the
virtual machine said "drive Z" was formatted FAT32 (It's really NTFS)

It has changed it mind. I have the image captured last night of it saying
"FAT32" for Drive Z, just now it says what is shown below.

and it
was the remaining size of my real D disk. What it really is, is a single
subdirectory on my real XP D drive, defined as a "shared folder" through
which I can have one machine communicate with the other. (You have to
install "Virtual Machine Additions" for that) The virtual C drive is not as
big as shown either. It is dynamic and expands as necessary *until* it gets
to that size. So far as i know, virtual drive C really is formatted as
FAT32. At least I got the "formatting drive C" and increasing percentage
on install. BUT, since it is dynamic and expanding, how could it be
reformatted space? I could understand static space being reformatted --
it's just a file to XP.

Install also claimed to have set up a partition on the C virtual
disk.....that would be static space, except it is dynamic. How can that be?


Copied from display window of MSINFO32 "System Information" in Win 98 VM.

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=D:\WIN98 /IE /NF
/IZ /IS /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
IE 5 5.00.2614.3500
Uptime: 0:00:02:10
Normal mode
On "nameWIN98VM" as "my name"

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
64MB RAM
94% system resources free
Windows-managed swap file on drive C (1733MB free)
Available space on drive C: 1733MB of 1994MB (FAT32)
Available space on drive Z: 205090MB of 238472MB (
â÷¿g
)

(I have no idea how those high ascii characters for drive Z formatting
display will travel over usenet.)

However, that still does not explain the dynamic .vhd being described as
FAT32 at 1994mb when its current size is 291mb.

FACE

"As described elsewhere"... Where? You mean in this same thread, or really
elsewhere?

Don't know that you'll get your answer here. Have you tried the NG
/microsoft.public.virtualpc

But to me it's simple -- you're dealing with "virtualness" here, and your
tools in Win98 aren't likely to read everything the way it really is, only
the way it is shown to be by VPC.

FWIW, it's a simple job to resize partitions, especially to expand them.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"FACE" wrote in message
...
From "Gary S. Terhune" none, in microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
on
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:06:58 -0700 :

Not at the moment. Do you have a problem?

I have a question. Actual several questions.

To set up the scenario:

I have a physical XP Pro machine, it has two separate hard disks, C and D.
On physical drive D, I have two virtual machines. One is XP (not relevant
here) and one is Win98 SE.
The two virtual machines share a folder (VMA is installed on both)
It is known to both as "drive Z".


As I described this elsewhere..........

On the win 98 virtual machine. I noticed that MSINFO32, run from the
virtual machine said "drive Z" was formatted FAT32 (It's really NTFS) and
it
was the remaining size of my real D disk. What it really is, is a
single
subdirectory on my real XP D drive, defined as a "shared folder" through
which I can have one machine communicate with the other. (You have to
install "Virtual Machine Additions" for that) The virtual C drive is not
as
big as shown either. It is dynamic and expands as necessary *until* it
gets
to that size. So far as i know, virtual drive C really is formatted as
FAT32. At least I got the "formatting drive C" and increasing percentage
on install. BUT, since it is dynamic and expanding, how could it be
reformatted space? I could understand static space being reformatted --
it's just a file to XP.

Install also claimed to have set up a partition on the C virtual
disk.....that would be static space, except it is dynamic. How can that
be?

FACE

I'm with Gary on this. You are dealing with virtual rather than real so who
knows--maybe the folks hanging around in the virtualpc newsgroup? The
virtual drive has to be fat 32 since W98SE does not recognize NTFS. It
cannot remain the same size as it has to have the ability to expand (swap
file, program additions, etc.) so maybe that accounts for the disparity in
sizes. I'm afraid your virtual questions are too technical for me.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"FACE" wrote in message
...
From FACE , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:34 -0400 :

From "Ron Badour" , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:33:35 -0500 :

Yes

Thanks.

I have a question. Actually several questions.

To set up the scenario:

I have a physical XP Pro machine, it has two separate hard disks, C and D.
On physical drive D, I have two virtual machines. One is XP (not relevant
here) and one is Win98 SE.
The two virtual machines share a folder (VMA is installed on both)
It is known to both as "drive Z".


As I described this elsewhere..........

On the win 98 virtual machine. I noticed that MSINFO32, run from the
virtual machine said "drive Z" was formatted FAT32 (It's really NTFS)

It has changed it mind. I have the image captured last night of it saying
"FAT32" for Drive Z, just now it says what is shown below.

and it
was the remaining size of my real D disk. What it really is, is a
single
subdirectory on my real XP D drive, defined as a "shared folder" through
which I can have one machine communicate with the other. (You have to
install "Virtual Machine Additions" for that) The virtual C drive is not
as
big as shown either. It is dynamic and expands as necessary *until* it
gets
to that size. So far as i know, virtual drive C really is formatted as
FAT32. At least I got the "formatting drive C" and increasing percentage
on install. BUT, since it is dynamic and expanding, how could it be
reformatted space? I could understand static space being reformatted --
it's just a file to XP.

Install also claimed to have set up a partition on the C virtual
disk.....that would be static space, except it is dynamic. How can that
be?


Copied from display window of MSINFO32 "System Information" in Win 98 VM.

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=D:\WIN98 /IE
/NF
/IZ /IS /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
IE 5 5.00.2614.3500
Uptime: 0:00:02:10
Normal mode
On "nameWIN98VM" as "my name"

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
64MB RAM
94% system resources free
Windows-managed swap file on drive C (1733MB free)
Available space on drive C: 1733MB of 1994MB (FAT32)
Available space on drive Z: 205090MB of 238472MB (
â÷¿g
)

(I have no idea how those high ascii characters for drive Z formatting
display will travel over usenet.)

However, that still does not explain the dynamic .vhd being described as
FAT32 at 1994mb when its current size is 291mb.

FACE

From "Gary S. Terhune" none, in microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:21:55 -0700 :

"As described elsewhere"... Where? You mean in this same thread, or really
elsewhere?

I meant *really* elsewhere............

(Which is why it is written more informally.)


Don't know that you'll get your answer here. Have you tried the NG
/microsoft.public.virtualpc

I looked for "virtual" in my groups list and did not find it.

I have asked the newsgroups wrangler to add it. I see that it is on
Motzarella and i have subscribed there.


But to me it's simple -- you're dealing with "virtualness" here, and your
tools in Win98 aren't likely to read everything the way it really is, only
the way it is shown to be by VPC.


I agree that acceptance is simple. :-)

FWIW, it's a simple job to resize partitions, especially to expand them.

I figured that might be happening............

Thanks,

FACE

From "Ron Badour" , in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:38:55 -0500 :

I'm with Gary on this. You are dealing with virtual rather than real so who
knows--maybe the folks hanging around in the virtualpc newsgroup? The
virtual drive has to be fat 32 since W98SE does not recognize NTFS. It
cannot remain the same size as it has to have the ability to expand (swap
file, program additions, etc.) so maybe that accounts for the disparity in
sizes. I'm afraid your virtual questions are too technical for me.

Thanks Ron.

FACE