Chokes on large file deletes

Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

On Sun, 22 May 2005 01:42:25 GMT, Tony
wrote:

Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

Tony,

It can take awhile for the system to digest a massive delete. If you
wait awhile it should recover. If not and you need to reboot then
it's another matter. Try waiting 5 min. or so. For me, the mouse
still moves and I click on another folder, then when the files in
the other folder appear the system has recovered.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

You are apparently using IE6 and it uses two files that are the culprit:
browselc.dll and browseui.dll
If you were to replace these files with the same files from IE5.5 SP1 (v
5.50.4522.1800), the problem would disappear. However, I do not know what
problems this could cause and I do not recommend replacing the files.
--
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"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

To add to the other replies, also see here for an explanation of the bug --
Win9x Explorer vs. Bulk File Ops:
http://cquirke.mvps.org/bexp1.htm
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
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"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

On Sat, 21 May 2005 23:29:50 -0400, "glee"
wrote:

http://cquirke.mvps.org/bexp1.htm

Many thanks guys for all your very knowledgable replies, I knew there
was a work-round

Best regards

Tony

On Sun, 22 May 2005 10:42:03 GMT, Tony
wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 23:29:50 -0400, "glee"
wrote:

http://cquirke.mvps.org/bexp1.htm

Many thanks guys for all your very knowledgable replies, I knew there
was a work-round


Wow...I am impressed, that works a treat :]
Thanks again guys.

Best regards

Tony

I just got done deleting 82,000 files from the Content.IE5 folders (that took
about 8 hours!) and leaving the desktop.ini files in each folder and I found a
couple of .exe's from Windows Critical Updates in a few of those folders and I
didn't delete those. I found that I had to select no more than 700 files for
deletion at a time, then go to the Recycle Bin and REDELETE them from there (and
the Recycle Bin would always hang doing this unless there were far fewer files
in the bin, like under 200 or so...). So, while in Safe Mode, I had a shortcut
on my desktop to take me to the Temporary Internet Files Folder and then I'd
type in a backwards slash after the address and then the autocomplete menu would
bring up "\Content.IE5" and I'd click on that to get to the dozen or so folders
in that folder. I'd open a sub-folder, click on the View Menu and select
Details, then click on the File Type tab, and delete all files before the
desktop.ini file and then all the files after the desktop.ini file (up to a
maximum of 700 files per Recycle Bin load). Sometimes the last deleting file
would hang if I went above 700 files for deletion and that would require a 3
finger salute and maybe a reboot. I did need to reboot after about every 7000
files deleted from the Content.IE5 folders. Some of those folders had over
20,000 files in them! The Recycle Bin almost always needed a 3 finger salute
about 10 seconds after the file count in the bin counted down from 700 to 0.
Then the Safe Mode bootup warning would show up and I'd click OK, then I'd click
the shortcut to get to the Temporary Internet Files and type in the backwards
slash in the address bar and select Content.IE5 from the autocomplete menu to
start the process of selecting the next 700 files for deletion.


"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

Entirely the Wrong way to empty the TIF

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"Cymbal Man Freq." Don't g wrote in
message ...
I just got done deleting 82,000 files from the Content.IE5 folders (that
took
about 8 hours!) and leaving the desktop.ini files in each folder and I
found a
couple of .exe's from Windows Critical Updates in a few of those folders
and I
didn't delete those. I found that I had to select no more than 700 files
for
deletion at a time, then go to the Recycle Bin and REDELETE them from
there (and
the Recycle Bin would always hang doing this unless there were far fewer
files
in the bin, like under 200 or so...). So, while in Safe Mode, I had a
shortcut
on my desktop to take me to the Temporary Internet Files Folder and then
I'd
type in a backwards slash after the address and then the autocomplete menu
would
bring up "\Content.IE5" and I'd click on that to get to the dozen or so
folders
in that folder. I'd open a sub-folder, click on the View Menu and select
Details, then click on the File Type tab, and delete all files before the
desktop.ini file and then all the files after the desktop.ini file (up to
a
maximum of 700 files per Recycle Bin load). Sometimes the last deleting
file
would hang if I went above 700 files for deletion and that would require a
3
finger salute and maybe a reboot. I did need to reboot after about every
7000
files deleted from the Content.IE5 folders. Some of those folders had over
20,000 files in them! The Recycle Bin almost always needed a 3 finger
salute
about 10 seconds after the file count in the bin counted down from 700 to
0.
Then the Safe Mode bootup warning would show up and I'd click OK, then I'd
click
the shortcut to get to the Temporary Internet Files and type in the
backwards
slash in the address bar and select Content.IE5 from the autocomplete menu
to
start the process of selecting the next 700 files for deletion.


"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi everybody

Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
before, I just can't find it.

My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
large file deletes?

Best regards

Tony

As AlmostBob fully said, that was the wrong way to do it...

Actually, at long last, I've come to like my TIFs, but I've only got a
4.8 MB Index.dat. Anyway...

Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here is
the way...

"Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all
offline content, OK, OK"

That does a credible job, in IE6 anyway. Note: It may take a few
moments: DON"T be impatient. The Index.dat inside Content.IE5 will
retain it's size, but is cleared or reset to emptiness. You still will
see Cookies in the main TIF folder, but all the weirdly named folders in
Content.IE5 will be gone.

These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an
involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold
bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit.
Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's
size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings
button. Mine is set for 125 MB there. Many say to go smaller-- say, 40
MB.

If that fails to get them all, then...

Some Cookies bleed into TIFs, so... "START, Settings, Control Panel,
Internet Options, Delete Cookies button". (Note, some site specific
passwords/settings may be wiped.)

If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured with a
DOS delete...

Verify, in Windows, where these folders are located before proceeding.

(a) "START, Find, F/F".
(b) Enter "Cookies, Tempor~1, History" (no quotes) in "Named".
(c) Click the "Advanced" button, & use the dropdown to select
"Folder".
(d) Then click the "Find Now" button.
If it is not in "C:\Windows", adjust the Deltree's below. If you
have more than one of any, then perhaps stop & report back.
(c) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Settings button"
Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located? Use that
path below, but substitute "Tempor~1" for "Temporary Internet Files".

(1) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"

(2) SMARTDRV
This speeds up hard drive processing considerably in DOS--
considerably, & yet it may still seem slow if TIFs are incredibly huge!

(3) DELTREE C:\Windows\Cookies\ /y
These are your Cookies. They may hold settings & passwords, site
specific.

(4) DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
These are your Temporary Internet Files. A DOS delete does reset
the Index.dat in Content.IE5 to 32 KB. It won't stay that small for
long. However, Cookies in the top TIF folder would survive this Deltree.

(5) DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
This is a collection of the sites you have visited. It will begin
to grow again, depending upon "Days to keep..." at "Internet Options,
General tab".

(6) EXIT or Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows

WARNING: DELTREE is a powerful command. It will wipe out the folder you
specify. DO NOT HIT ENTER too soon, or you will wipe out your system.
Get all the way to the end of those DELTREE lines.


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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Cymbal Man Freq." Don't g wrote in
message ...
| I just got done deleting 82,000 files from the Content.IE5 folders
(that took
| about 8 hours!) and leaving the desktop.ini files in each folder and I
found a
| couple of .exe's from Windows Critical Updates in a few of those
folders and I
| didn't delete those. I found that I had to select no more than 700
files for
| deletion at a time, then go to the Recycle Bin and REDELETE them from
there (and
| the Recycle Bin would always hang doing this unless there were far
fewer files
| in the bin, like under 200 or so...). So, while in Safe Mode, I had a
shortcut
| on my desktop to take me to the Temporary Internet Files Folder and
then I'd
| type in a backwards slash after the address and then the autocomplete
menu would
| bring up "\Content.IE5" and I'd click on that to get to the dozen or
so folders
| in that folder. I'd open a sub-folder, click on the View Menu and
select
| Details, then click on the File Type tab, and delete all files before
the
| desktop.ini file and then all the files after the desktop.ini file (up
to a
| maximum of 700 files per Recycle Bin load). Sometimes the last
deleting file
| would hang if I went above 700 files for deletion and that would
require a 3
| finger salute and maybe a reboot. I did need to reboot after about
every 7000
| files deleted from the Content.IE5 folders. Some of those folders had
over
| 20,000 files in them! The Recycle Bin almost always needed a 3 finger
salute
| about 10 seconds after the file count in the bin counted down from 700
to 0.
| Then the Safe Mode bootup warning would show up and I'd click OK, then
I'd click
| the shortcut to get to the Temporary Internet Files and type in the
backwards
| slash in the address bar and select Content.IE5 from the autocomplete
menu to
| start the process of selecting the next 700 files for deletion.
|
|
| "Tony" wrote in message
| news | Hi everybody
|
| Sorry to bother you all with this question, I know its been asked
| before, I just can't find it.
|
| My question is; does anybody know of a way to stop 98se choking on
| large file deletes?
|
| Best regards
|
| Tony
|
|