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Old February 4th 06, 09:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve


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Old February 4th 06, 10:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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About Resources:
http://www.aumha.org/a/resource.htm

http://www.onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#resources

Clean up your startup group:
http://www.rickrogers.org/clean.htm

Startup Programs Loading:
http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm

Start-ups:
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm

Task List Programs:
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm

Startup Applications List:
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

Windows Startup Online Repository:
http://www.windowsstartup.com/wso/search.php
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve



  #3  
Old February 4th 06, 11:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you get a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such, limit the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically. Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option, look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however, by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve




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Old February 5th 06, 01:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Steve "Moonraker" wrote in message
...

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.


Back up these photos! You may find a rewritable CD drive is
the best (useful too for sending photos to family members in bulk.)

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.


Good software for its purpose. You can build up a Friends List
of senders recognized as OK and a Black List of senders (or
topics) automatically flagged to be bounced or deleted.

I got a low on system resources error report.
I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.


First priority is good housekeeping to exclude malware
and remove space-wasting clutter, as recommended on
the web sites listed by Glee (Ventura.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old February 6th 06, 07:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Thankyou Bob,

Yes, I will work through the "experts" wisdoms.

No, we do not keep everything in My Documents,I/we have created other
folders off the(c) drive, Steve's folder, B's doc's etc, and save most stuff
in other folders within these.

Having said that I see there is- 2.44gb 1,420 files and 23 folders.

I will move/delete most of these in a mega spring clean.

Would you say that this may be the cause of some of our problems.

Many thanks Steve

"BoB" wrote in message
...
Steve "Moonraker" wrote in message
...

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is)

have a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.


On the outside chance that the 'pro's' answers you received do
not produce normal operations consider the following.

Are your pictures stored in the 'MyDocuments\MyPictures' folder.
MyDocuments is a 'special' folder and can cause 'special' problems
if it gets overloaded with files. Move files to new folders, forget
MyDocuments exists and never use it.

BoB



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Old February 11th 06, 09:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Could you give me some further help.

I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group.

I am not sure which to disable so will probably list them in another post
for your advise.

Before I start deleting them from the start-up group I have been trying to
transfer some of the photo's from a folder off the c:\ drive onto a dvd+rw
disc.
There is about 3.55gb in the folder and I am copying them to the 4.7gb disc
by dragging and dropping. I will then delete them from the c:\ drive once I
am happy they are safely backed-up.

Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. First of all, I could not
just drag the whole folder (3.5gb) as it would keep hanging up part way
through,
then I started dragging the sub folders, all but the two biggest transferred
ok. these contain 2.2gb and 770mb so I started to take sub folders from
these and managed some but it has got to individual jpg's hanging up.

What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is there
a problem with windows.

Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part reinstall
of only the damaged parts

Many thanks for your help Steve



"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you get a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such, limit the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically. Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option, look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however, by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have

a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve






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Old February 12th 06, 04:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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The fact that you are "dragging and dropping" the files to the DVD-RW indicates that
you are using packet-writing instead of mastering software. The term "safely
backed-up" and the method "packet-writing" are in my opinion mutually exclusive.

Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer? If so, then you
are using packet-writing (DirectCD, InCD). Use a CD/DVD mastering app instead, such
as Easy CD Creator, Nero, or similar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Could you give me some further help.

I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group.

I am not sure which to disable so will probably list them in another post
for your advise.

Before I start deleting them from the start-up group I have been trying to
transfer some of the photo's from a folder off the c:\ drive onto a dvd+rw
disc.
There is about 3.55gb in the folder and I am copying them to the 4.7gb disc
by dragging and dropping. I will then delete them from the c:\ drive once I
am happy they are safely backed-up.

Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. First of all, I could not
just drag the whole folder (3.5gb) as it would keep hanging up part way
through,
then I started dragging the sub folders, all but the two biggest transferred
ok. these contain 2.2gb and 770mb so I started to take sub folders from
these and managed some but it has got to individual jpg's hanging up.

What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is there
a problem with windows.

Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part reinstall
of only the damaged parts

Many thanks for your help Steve



"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you get a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such, limit the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically. Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option, look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however, by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is) have

a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve







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Old February 16th 06, 04:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Hi Glen,
Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer?


Yes I was, I did not realise I was using incd, I assumed I was using the
same drag and drop as in explorer.

I have tried with Nero, with partial success, will let you have the details
in another posting,

Could you try to answer some of the unanswered question from the previous
post.

Could you insert each answer so I can keep track.

1, I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group. Is this too many,
could this cause problems.

2, Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. Would you have some
idea why this might be.(I would have to reboot every time the transfer
stopped and the 'puter would freeze.)

3, What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and
write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is

there
a problem with windows.


4, Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload
win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts


Many thanks Steve








"glee" wrote in message
...
The fact that you are "dragging and dropping" the files to the DVD-RW

indicates that
you are using packet-writing instead of mastering software. The term

"safely
backed-up" and the method "packet-writing" are in my opinion mutually

exclusive.

Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer? If so,

then you
are using packet-writing (DirectCD, InCD). Use a CD/DVD mastering app

instead, such
as Easy CD Creator, Nero, or similar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Could you give me some further help.

I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group.

I am not sure which to disable so will probably list them in another

post
for your advise.

Before I start deleting them from the start-up group I have been trying

to
transfer some of the photo's from a folder off the c:\ drive onto a

dvd+rw
disc.
There is about 3.55gb in the folder and I am copying them to the 4.7gb

disc
by dragging and dropping. I will then delete them from the c:\ drive

once I
am happy they are safely backed-up.

Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. First of all, I could not
just drag the whole folder (3.5gb) as it would keep hanging up part way
through,
then I started dragging the sub folders, all but the two biggest

transferred
ok. these contain 2.2gb and 770mb so I started to take sub folders from
these and managed some but it has got to individual jpg's hanging up.

What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and

write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is

there
a problem with windows.

Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload

win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts

Many thanks for your help Steve



"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you get

a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such, limit

the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically. Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so

quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to

double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and

then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option, look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however,

by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your

AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an

entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is)

have
a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be

the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve









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Old February 16th 06, 04:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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IMO, 35 startup items is a high number....it depends on what they are also. The
reason I gave you the list of links in my earlier reply is so you could look them
up. If the program being loaded is not used every Windows session, and for most of
every session, then it should not be auto-loaded at startup. There are items in the
startup group that should be left there, so without seeing your list I can't comment
any further than to once again look at the links I provided.

No, I do NOT think that reloading Windows would be a good idea. In fact I rarely
find it at all helpful.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi Glen,
Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer?


Yes I was, I did not realise I was using incd, I assumed I was using the
same drag and drop as in explorer.

I have tried with Nero, with partial success, will let you have the details
in another posting,

Could you try to answer some of the unanswered question from the previous
post.

Could you insert each answer so I can keep track.

1, I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group. Is this too many,
could this cause problems.

2, Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. Would you have some
idea why this might be.(I would have to reboot every time the transfer
stopped and the 'puter would freeze.)

3, What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and
write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is

there
a problem with windows.


4, Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload
win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts


Many thanks Steve








"glee" wrote in message
...
The fact that you are "dragging and dropping" the files to the DVD-RW

indicates that
you are using packet-writing instead of mastering software. The term

"safely
backed-up" and the method "packet-writing" are in my opinion mutually

exclusive.

Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer? If so,

then you
are using packet-writing (DirectCD, InCD). Use a CD/DVD mastering app

instead, such
as Easy CD Creator, Nero, or similar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Could you give me some further help.

I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group.

I am not sure which to disable so will probably list them in another

post
for your advise.

Before I start deleting them from the start-up group I have been trying

to
transfer some of the photo's from a folder off the c:\ drive onto a

dvd+rw
disc.
There is about 3.55gb in the folder and I am copying them to the 4.7gb

disc
by dragging and dropping. I will then delete them from the c:\ drive

once I
am happy they are safely backed-up.

Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. First of all, I could not
just drag the whole folder (3.5gb) as it would keep hanging up part way
through,
then I started dragging the sub folders, all but the two biggest

transferred
ok. these contain 2.2gb and 770mb so I started to take sub folders from
these and managed some but it has got to individual jpg's hanging up.

What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup and

write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or is

there
a problem with windows.

Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to reload

win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts

Many thanks for your help Steve



"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you get

a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such, limit

the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically. Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so

quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to

double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and

then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option, look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs; however,

by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool. There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your

AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an

entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that is)

have
a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then, and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may be

the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve










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Old February 19th 06, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Hi Glen

Can I ask a question

I have infact 57 items listed in my start-up group, 35 of which has a check
mark.

Are all 57 items possibly starting or creating problems or ONLY the checked
items.

I have been googling on all the items in the start up group, mostly on
"geeks to go", and it would appear that I may have a worm or two.

Being only a learner I will work through all these problems one by one

Many thanks Steve

"glee" wrote in message
...
IMO, 35 startup items is a high number....it depends on what they are

also. The
reason I gave you the list of links in my earlier reply is so you could

look them
up. If the program being loaded is not used every Windows session, and

for most of
every session, then it should not be auto-loaded at startup. There are

items in the
startup group that should be left there, so without seeing your list I

can't comment
any further than to once again look at the links I provided.

No, I do NOT think that reloading Windows would be a good idea. In fact I

rarely
find it at all helpful.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi Glen,
Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer?


Yes I was, I did not realise I was using incd, I assumed I was using the
same drag and drop as in explorer.

I have tried with Nero, with partial success, will let you have the

details
in another posting,

Could you try to answer some of the unanswered question from the

previous
post.

Could you insert each answer so I can keep track.

1, I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group. Is this too

many,
could this cause problems.

2, Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. Would you have

some
idea why this might be.(I would have to reboot every time the transfer
stopped and the 'puter would freeze.)

3, What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup

and
write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single

hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no

hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or

is
there
a problem with windows.


4, Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to

reload
win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts


Many thanks Steve








"glee" wrote in message
...
The fact that you are "dragging and dropping" the files to the DVD-RW

indicates that
you are using packet-writing instead of mastering software. The term

"safely
backed-up" and the method "packet-writing" are in my opinion mutually

exclusive.

Exactly how are you dragging and dropping....in Windows Explorer? If

so,
then you
are using packet-writing (DirectCD, InCD). Use a CD/DVD mastering app

instead, such
as Easy CD Creator, Nero, or similar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Could you give me some further help.

I have 35 items listed in the msconfig start-up group.

I am not sure which to disable so will probably list them in another

post
for your advise.

Before I start deleting them from the start-up group I have been

trying
to
transfer some of the photo's from a folder off the c:\ drive onto a

dvd+rw
disc.
There is about 3.55gb in the folder and I am copying them to the

4.7gb
disc
by dragging and dropping. I will then delete them from the c:\ drive

once I
am happy they are safely backed-up.

Problem is that the transfer keeps hanging up. First of all, I could

not
just drag the whole folder (3.5gb) as it would keep hanging up part

way
through,
then I started dragging the sub folders, all but the two biggest

transferred
ok. these contain 2.2gb and 770mb so I started to take sub folders

from
these and managed some but it has got to individual jpg's hanging

up.

What is puzzling me is that I can work within OE and the newsgroup

and
write
this e-mail and surf on the internet for hours without a single

hang-up,
I can open up autocad (granted it seems a little slow) and no

hang-up.

Is the transfer problems typical of an over full start-up group or

is
there
a problem with windows.

Would reloading windows 98se help, And would it do any harm to

reload
win98
even if it did not need it.

In the past I have re-installed from my disc but chosen the part

reinstall
of only the damaged parts

Many thanks for your help Steve



"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
There are two kinds of system resources: user and graphic device
interface resources. They are used for such things as managing

input
from the keyboard and mouse, toolbars, icons, graphics, etc. The
resources are fixed chunks (64 kb) of memory and are unrelated to

the
amount of Ram that is installed. A PC with 512 mb of ram has the

same
resources available as one with 16 mb.

If your machine starts getting sluggish, the cursor "hops" or you

get
a
resources warning, your resources are too low. Shutting down

programs
that are unneeded may help or a reboot may be required. Certain
programs are resource hogs and once you identify one as such,

limit
the
amount of dual tasking that is done and reboot periodically.

Reducing
the amount of programs started at boot will increase the amount of
resources you start with. This may keep you from running out so

quick.

To cut back on the number of programs starting at boot, check the
programs themselves for an option not to load. You might have to

double
click an icon in the tray (others might require a right click) and

then
look for preferences or options. If you cannot find an option,

look
for the program in the following start up points and remove the
reference to it:

Start up folder on the start menu, the load= and run= lines in the
win.ini and these registry run keys (use regedit.exe):

1.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\Run
2.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*Run
3.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\RunOnce
4.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\*RunOnce
5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServices
6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunServicesOnce
7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion*\
RunOnce\Setup

There is a freeware program that makes this process a lot easier

to
manage: Startup Manager,
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

You can use msconfig.exe, startup tab, to disable programs;

however,
by
doing so, you may lessen its value as a troubleshooting tool.

There
might be some double entries in msconfig--leave those for your

AntiVirus
program and load power profile alone as they are required. If you
disable an entry in msconfig or remove it from the start up point

and
the program loads again after a reboot, that is an indication that

you
missed an option on the program itself. If you don't know what an

entry
is, check he http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
Hi

We am on win 98se.

We have a 38gb hard disc with 24gb of it used (we (my wife that

is)
have
a
large number of pictures from the digi' camera stored on it.

Recently, we have had trouble with the PC freezing now and then,

and
having
to restore the desktop.

Today, I downloaded "mailwasher" to reduce so much Spam.

I got a low on system resources error report.

I gather it may be processing power rather than memory that may

be
the
problem.

What should I do next.

Steve












 




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