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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
| IE MD is an HTA powered by VBScript.
| | The doctor is ill. | | I guess it's that combination of IE and VB that gives me the running heebies. You don't like VBScript? I think it gets a bad reputation because it's mainly used by system administrators. Most non-tech. people don't know about it. And it's been used to produce viruses. As a result VBS files are often treated by AV with even more suspicion than EXE files. (You do realize that if you enable script in your browser you're taking a risk with every webpage?) Ironically, if the tool were an EXE you would have little way of knowing what's in it. |
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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
Mayayana wrote:
| One option that I don't see immediately available is making Zone 0 | settings visible. Do you have any clues? That's in there, under the misc. settings, near the bottom. But in my experience there's a bug or change in Windows 7. It works with IE5-8 on XP. I haven't tested on Vista. When I try it with IE8 on Win7 I find that it makes the computer icon visible for the local zone, but it doesn't work when clicked! Also see the "Setting Security Options" window. You probably already know about this, but Zone 0 is normally overridden by Local Machine Lockdown. It can also be overridden by Group Policy settings. And in some cases it's overriden by HKLM settings. Yet in all cases, what you see on the Security tab is only your own HKCU settings coming from: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\0 So even accessing the Security tab settings for Zone 0 is a mixed blessing. It's all explained in the "Setting Security Options" window. There's also a utility there to change all 8 possible settings at once. (The visible one plus the other 7 that could be the values actually in effect.) IE settings have become so convoluted that I decided it was easiest to just write my scripts to change any security zone value in all 8 possible locations. The 8-setting function might also be useful as template code, but it's a bit tricky to work it out. For convenience the functions use a simple Registry class, which itself wraps a more involved Registry class that uses the WMI StdRegProv. (StdRegProv is so poorly designed that I like to keep at least 1 class interface between my code and the StdRegProv functions. When you click the button for the 8-value setting it calls ButSetSec_click. That calls SetIESecVal8 in the main class. That calls SetIESecurityValue in the IERegFuncs class, which calls Registry functions in the WMI class. SetIESecurityValue demonstrates the basic operation. I'm glad you asked about that. I just found a typo that would cause the 8-value setting to fail. Where it was like this: Public Sub SetIESecVal8(sVal, iVal, sZone, DType) SetIESecurityValue sVal, iVal, sZone, DataType End Sub when it should have been like this: Public Sub SetIESecVal8(sVal, iVal, sZone, DType) CReg.SetIESecurityValue sVal, iVal, sZone, DataType End Sub ( I've been searching for typos and bugs for days, but it's a big code base and I missed that one. An updated version has been uploaded.) Yes, I should have specified. I mean for IE8 on Windows 7. The fixes that worked with IE6 on Windows 2000 don't work here. This has been less of a problem for me with the availability of HTA, which is like a local HTM zone with NO restrictions! -- Crash Committed to the search for intraterrestrial intelligence. |
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| One option that I don't see immediately available is making Zone 0
| settings visible. Do you have any clues? That's in there, under the misc. settings, near the bottom. But in my experience there's a bug or change in Windows 7. It works with IE5-8 on XP. I haven't tested on Vista. When I try it with IE8 on Win7 I find that it makes the computer icon visible for the local zone, but it doesn't work when clicked! Also see the "Setting Security Options" window. You probably already know about this, but Zone 0 is normally overridden by Local Machine Lockdown. It can also be overridden by Group Policy settings. And in some cases it's overriden by HKLM settings. Yet in all cases, what you see on the Security tab is only your own HKCU settings coming from: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\0 So even accessing the Security tab settings for Zone 0 is a mixed blessing. It's all explained in the "Setting Security Options" window. There's also a utility there to change all 8 possible settings at once. (The visible one plus the other 7 that could be the values actually in effect.) IE settings have become so convoluted that I decided it was easiest to just write my scripts to change any security zone value in all 8 possible locations. The 8-setting function might also be useful as template code, but it's a bit tricky to work it out. For convenience the functions use a simple Registry class, which itself wraps a more involved Registry class that uses the WMI StdRegProv. (StdRegProv is so poorly designed that I like to keep at least 1 class interface between my code and the StdRegProv functions. When you click the button for the 8-value setting it calls ButSetSec_click. That calls SetIESecVal8 in the main class. That calls SetIESecurityValue in the IERegFuncs class, which calls Registry functions in the WMI class. SetIESecurityValue demonstrates the basic operation. I'm glad you asked about that. I just found a typo that would cause the 8-value setting to fail. Where it was like this: Public Sub SetIESecVal8(sVal, iVal, sZone, DType) SetIESecurityValue sVal, iVal, sZone, DataType End Sub when it should have been like this: Public Sub SetIESecVal8(sVal, iVal, sZone, DType) CReg.SetIESecurityValue sVal, iVal, sZone, DataType End Sub ( I've been searching for typos and bugs for days, but it's a big code base and I missed that one. An updated version has been uploaded.) |
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| I also disable Java because that IS | pretty much a sealed executable. Flash too, Yes. I don't even have either of those installed. I don't understand what you mean by disabling VBScript while allowing javascript, though. In IE? They're functionally the same thing. The only options are to enable or disable script. |
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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
"Mayayana" wrote in news:j8rn1u$t8c$1@dont-
email.me: | I also disable Java because that IS | pretty much a sealed executable. Flash too, Yes. I don't even have either of those installed. I don't understand what you mean by disabling VBScript while allowing javascript, though. In IE? They're functionally the same thing. The only options are to enable or disable script. I don't use IE, but I think Opera and Firefox will let both get switched independently. I think IE v6 might have. |
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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
thanatoid wrote:
philo wrote in : On 11/01/2011 10:43 PM, thanatoid wrote: snip And the page you provide the link to claims my browser, about a thousand times better than IE, OffByOne, is a download manager. This is possibly because they know OB1 is immune to their evils. AT best, even if this is not the case, it gives me an idea about the author. WHAT could I possibly want to DL from his site? That kind of attitude is acceptable on sites with 10,000+ files (OK, 500 files and monthly traffic limits). I downloaded the utility on my Linux machine and it contains three vbs scripts If you want to inspect them, they are in plain text and you can just change the extensions to .txt and inspect I really don't care, because I haven't used IE since 2001. And WHAT exactly did you download? There is nothing called "Internet Explorer Doctor" anywhere to be found on the net. Or I am getting REALLY senile? Try "IE MD" which is the name given by Mayayana. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:05:20 -0500, dadiOH wrote:
thanatoid wrote: philo wrote in : On 11/01/2011 10:43 PM, thanatoid wrote: snip And the page you provide the link to claims my browser, about a thousand times better than IE, OffByOne, is a download manager. This is possibly because they know OB1 is immune to their evils. AT best, even if this is not the case, it gives me an idea about the author. WHAT could I possibly want to DL from his site? That kind of attitude is acceptable on sites with 10,000+ files (OK, 500 files and monthly traffic limits). I downloaded the utility on my Linux machine and it contains three vbs scripts If you want to inspect them, they are in plain text and you can just change the extensions to .txt and inspect I really don't care, because I haven't used IE since 2001. And WHAT exactly did you download? There is nothing called "Internet Explorer Doctor" anywhere to be found on the net. Or I am getting REALLY senile? Try "IE MD" which is the name given by Mayayana. Nah,that's *way* too easy :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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"Mayayana" wrote in
: | UserAgent=Mozilla/4.7 (compatible; OffByOne; &sys) | | Anything here scream "download manager" at you? | &sys? I assume by that you mean that it reports the OS version, like "Windows XP", "Windows 98", "Windows 7". You assume correctly. That's a problem because it's actually very rare, except when used as a spoof UA by download managers. Hmm. I found that a little hard to believe, so I checked this: http://www.useragentstring.com/pages...gentstring.php I opened the "all" page, all (sic) 1.5 MB of it, did a search, and '&sys' was not found anywhere, so you are correct. Although - of course - neither OffByOne nor my 2 DLMs, FileHound and Webcow, are listed anywhere on that site. Firefox and Opera both end their UAs with a version number, and while the IE UA used to end with the Windows version at one time (thus the download manager spoofs), these days Microsoft encrusts the IE UA with all sorts of things. I'm sorry about the inconvenience. All I can suggest it that you use another browser of adjust your UA. I appreciate your attitude considering my OR, but I would rather be cut to pieces with a 2x4 than use IE. All this was caused by various childhood problems and purely academic. -- "Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it." Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983 |
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Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions
Lostgallifreyan wrote in
: "Mayayana" wrote in news:j8rjar$33e$1@dont- email.me: Ironically, if the tool were an EXE you would have little way of knowing what's in it. True. I disable VBS in mine, I'd like to do that to JavaScript too but I use that myself, and it's worth the risk. I used to like the BASIC language, still do in its influence on Lua and Psion OPL, but so many of the recent forms popularised means to write bad code, bloated code, and I found disabling it the easiest choice to make. I also disable Java because that IS pretty much a sealed executable. Flash too, I distrust, same reason, plus it's very definitely exploited to do dodgy things. A system can crash by flash just because too much of it is on a page, it doesn't have to be malicious to do more harm than most genuinely malicious code can do. I use ScriptSentry, and while it catches all scripts (of various kinds) when I mess around offline, it has yet to warn me against a script on a webpage. But then again, I use OB1 99.5% of the time. In the past, I just had all vbs files removed from the win directory, but that impedes you from doing certain things offline which are useful. And when you are using a full-featured browser, there are many more way to mess you up than a vbs script. Curse the damn WWW. -- "Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it." Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983 |
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Why was this X-posted to win-98? (was: Tool to fix IE nags and restrictions)
"Mayayana" wrote in
: snip | Why has it all of a sudden become a common practice of | cross-posting between a win-98 group and XP / Windows7 | groups? | I actually borrowed the link from the earlier post about Firefox, but.... Sloppy! I didn't intend to clog the group or post spam. I'm just trying to share a potentially handy tool, so that others don't have to reinvent the wheel. But I will think twice next time. I had no idea that so many people would get so angry about being offered free code and utilities. The room with no windows that the Usenet is is filled with many peculiar characters... And I am as proud to be one of them as I am of anything I have done over the course of my worthless and pointless existence. -- "Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it." Bill Gates to Steve Jobs, around 1983 |
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