XP shows start progress bar for the first time.

(I included a storage ng, because all the problems related to
partitioning. Does that make it relevant to that ng?)

The final question is:, Following the seemingly successful shrinking
of a partition, XP will boot fine from the MS dual boot, but win98SE
just says "C: not found. (Enter Abort, Retry, xomething, or Fxxxxx):"
What should I do? (I don't remember the exact message, but
you've all seen the part in parens.)



Part one of this is not very important, but maybe someone knows the
answer. And it sets the stage for PART TWO, which follows PART ONE:

PART ONE

All of a sudden, when I start XPSP3, a dos-style progress bar goes
very quickly -- looks like coming out of hibernate, but faster, takes
about a second, and I'm not coming out of hibernate -- across the
bottom of the screen, at the very start, right after I pick an OS from
the MS dual boot screen. Why? How do I make it go away? It seems
weird; how can such a thing happen?

I have always used MS dual boot with XP, since since I first installed
it 2 years ago.

This happened after:

1) I cloned both partitions on the harddrive to an matching partitions
on an external drive. . I have win98SE as partition 1 and winXP as
partition 2. I used XXCLone to back up each partition to separate
partitions on the ext disk. No problems after that.

2) Then because my XP partition is getting full and the 98 partition
had plenty of space, I used the latest version of Parted Magic or
GParted (I didn't realize they were different, and I have to check
which I was using. It ran from a boot CD) partition manager, 5.5 I
think, to shrink the 98 partition, but it had an error in the middle.
After that, booting gave me "NTLDR not present" (or something like
that). I had to slave this drive and install another master drive to
edit C partition boot.ini, plus I had to install NTLDR and Ntdetect.
I did all this, and then both OSes would boot, but that progress bar
was there for XP.

PART TWO

Then, instead of Parted or Gparted, I used Easeus Partition Master 6,
the latest version, to make the 98 partition smaller, leaving 16 gigs
of unallocated space in between, until after I test everything.
Well, XP booted just fine after this and it accessed many files from
the 98 partition, including executing a couple of them, but booting
win98SE just showed a black screen with a flashing underline in the
upper-left hand corner, that never went away.

I went back into XP, checked the boot.ini file and it hadn't changed.
XXClone has an option to make a disk bootable, so I tried the first
part, Write MBR. When I tried to boot 98, nothing had changed. Then
I went back and did the second part, Write Boot Sector, and after
that, it would go from the Dual Boot menu to the win98SE menu (which I
have it set up to always display) and I chose my usual, Boot with
logging. It ran config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then, where I
normally displayed the time before leaving dos to start win98, it gave
a message, "Time invalid". (I entered a time, which was there when
later I got to XP, but it didn't ask for a date, and the date was
still accurate in XP). Then the next message was "C: not found,
abort, retry, or Fxxx" When I tried F or Retry, I got the same
message again. When I tried A for abort, the computer turned off.

What do I do now? I want 98 to work still for several reasons.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 02:05:30 -0400, mm
wrote:


PART TWO

Then, instead of Parted or Gparted, I used Easeus Partition Master 6,
the latest version, to make the 98 partition smaller, leaving 16 gigs
of unallocated space in between, until after I test everything.
Well, XP booted just fine after this and it accessed many files from
the 98 partition, including executing a couple of them, but booting
win98SE just showed a black screen with a flashing underline in the
upper-left hand corner, that never went away.

I went back into XP, checked the boot.ini file and it hadn't changed.
XXClone has an option to make a disk bootable, so I tried the first
part, Write MBR. When I tried to boot 98, nothing had changed. Then
I went back and did the second part, Write Boot Sector, and after
that, it would go from the Dual Boot menu to the win98SE menu (which I
have it set up to always display) and I chose my usual, Boot with
logging. It ran config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then, where I
normally displayed the time before leaving dos to start win98, it gave
a message, "Time invalid". (I entered a time, which was there when
later I got to XP, but it didn't ask for a date, and the date was
still accurate in XP). Then the next message was "C: not found,
abort, retry, or Fxxx" When I tried F or Retry, I got the same
message again. When I tried A for abort, the computer turned off.

What do I do now? I want 98 to work still for several reasons.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I have more information, that I didnt' think to get at first.

For some reason, according to EaseUS run under winXP

Partition 1, the win98 partition is marked System and Primary.
Partition 2, the winXP partition is marked Boot.

Is that right?

Win98 is where 98 was first installed and where the boot.ini is. In
boot.ini, the default is to go to partition 2 and start XP.

I thought part 1 was the boot partition until it handed off to part 2.
Why does Easus regard part 2 as a boot partition? Is it because I'm
in XP already, and I'd get a different result if I booted from a
partition manager CD?

For some reason, trying to start Partition Magic 8 freezes the
computer at the flash screen, but this program is entirely on the XP
partition.

Thanks again.

On 09/26/2010 01:05 AM, mm wrote:
(I included a storage ng, because all the problems related to
partitioning. Does that make it relevant to that ng?)


Excellent


XP in fact is supposed to show the progress bar

glad you got everything all sorted out!

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:38:43 -0500, philo wrote:

On 09/26/2010 01:05 AM, mm wrote:
(I included a storage ng, because all the problems related to
partitioning. Does that make it relevant to that ng?)


Excellent


XP in fact is supposed to show the progress bar

glad you got everything all sorted out!

But everything is not sorted out. The Dual Boot is part of XP and
half of it doesnt' work anymore.

On 09/26/2010 11:16 AM, mm wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:38:43 -0500, wrote:

On 09/26/2010 01:05 AM, mm wrote:
(I included a storage ng, because all the problems related to
partitioning. Does that make it relevant to that ng?)


Excellent


XP in fact is supposed to show the progress bar

glad you got everything all sorted out!

But everything is not sorted out. The Dual Boot is part of XP and
half of it doesnt' work anymore.



IF xp boots ok

run msconfig and have it check all boot paths

mm wrote:

(I included a storage ng, because all the problems related
to partitioning. Does that make it relevant to that ng?)

Yes.

The final question is:,

Bet it isnt.

Following the seemingly successful shrinking of a partition, XP will
boot fine from the MS dual boot, but win98SE just says "C: not found.
(Enter Abort, Retry, xomething, or Fxxxxx):"
What should I do?

You could hang yourself.

(I don't remember the exact message, but you've all seen the part in parens.)

Part one of this is not very important, but maybe someone knows the
answer. And it sets the stage for PART TWO, which follows PART ONE:

PART ONE

All of a sudden, when I start XPSP3, a dos-style progress bar goes
very quickly -- looks like coming out of hibernate, but faster, takes
about a second, and I'm not coming out of hibernate -- across the
bottom of the screen, at the very start, right after I pick an OS from
the MS dual boot screen. Why? How do I make it go away? It seems
weird; how can such a thing happen?

I have always used MS dual boot with XP, since since I first installed
it 2 years ago.

This happened after:

1) I cloned both partitions on the harddrive to an matching partitions
on an external drive. . I have win98SE as partition 1 and winXP as
partition 2. I used XXCLone to back up each partition to separate
partitions on the ext disk. No problems after that.

2) Then because my XP partition is getting full and the 98 partition
had plenty of space, I used the latest version of Parted Magic or
GParted (I didn't realize they were different, and I have to check
which I was using. It ran from a boot CD) partition manager, 5.5 I
think, to shrink the 98 partition, but it had an error in the middle.
After that, booting gave me "NTLDR not present" (or something like
that). I had to slave this drive and install another master drive to
edit C partition boot.ini, plus I had to install NTLDR and Ntdetect.
I did all this, and then both OSes would boot, but that progress bar
was there for XP.

PART TWO

Then, instead of Parted or Gparted, I used Easeus Partition Master 6,
the latest version, to make the 98 partition smaller, leaving 16 gigs
of unallocated space in between, until after I test everything.
Well, XP booted just fine after this and it accessed many files from
the 98 partition, including executing a couple of them, but booting
win98SE just showed a black screen with a flashing underline in the
upper-left hand corner, that never went away.

I went back into XP, checked the boot.ini file and it hadn't changed.
XXClone has an option to make a disk bootable, so I tried the first
part, Write MBR. When I tried to boot 98, nothing had changed. Then
I went back and did the second part, Write Boot Sector, and after
that, it would go from the Dual Boot menu to the win98SE menu (which I
have it set up to always display) and I chose my usual, Boot with
logging. It ran config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then, where I
normally displayed the time before leaving dos to start win98, it gave
a message, "Time invalid". (I entered a time, which was there when
later I got to XP, but it didn't ask for a date, and the date was
still accurate in XP). Then the next message was "C: not found,
abort, retry, or Fxxx" When I tried F or Retry, I got the same
message again. When I tried A for abort, the computer turned off.

What do I do now? I want 98 to work still for several reasons.

I'd do a repair install of the XP and do a clean install of 98 again.

You may well have comprehensively ****ed the installs by
farting around with various different partition managers.

I have more information, that I didnt' think to get at first.

For some reason, according to EaseUS run under winXP

Partition 1, the win98 partition is marked System and Primary.
Partition 2, the winXP partition is marked Boot.

Is that right?

Win98 is where 98 was first installed and where the boot.ini is.
In boot.ini, the default is to go to partition 2 and start XP.

I thought part 1 was the boot partition until it handed off to part 2.
Why does Easus regard part 2 as a boot partition? Is it because
I'm in XP already, and I'd get a different result if I booted from a
partition manager CD?

One obvious way to check that.

For some reason, trying to start Partition Magic 8 freezes the computer
at the flash screen, but this program is entirely on the XP partition.

Rod Speed wrote:

(...)

Oh for christ sakes, which of those cross-posted groups brought Rod
Speed here?

I've never seen a more bitter, argumentative son-of-a-bitch then that
guy.

On 26/09/2010 2:05 AM, mm wrote:
I went back into XP, checked the boot.ini file and it hadn't changed.
XXClone has an option to make a disk bootable, so I tried the first
part, Write MBR. When I tried to boot 98, nothing had changed. Then
I went back and did the second part, Write Boot Sector, and after
that, it would go from the Dual Boot menu to the win98SE menu (which I
have it set up to always display) and I chose my usual, Boot with
logging. It ran config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then, where I
normally displayed the time before leaving dos to start win98, it gave
a message, "Time invalid". (I entered a time, which was there when
later I got to XP, but it didn't ask for a date, and the date was
still accurate in XP). Then the next message was "C: not found,
abort, retry, or Fxxx" When I tried F or Retry, I got the same
message again. When I tried A for abort, the computer turned off.

What do I do now? I want 98 to work still for several reasons.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

You may have to make the Win98 partition "active". Some boot managers
will do this automatically for you, I'm not sure what boot manager that
you're using. Linux's Grub will make it active, for sure.

Yousuf Khan

"mm" wrote in message
...

The final question is:, Following the seemingly successful shrinking
of a partition, XP will boot fine from the MS dual boot, but win98SE
just says "C: not found. (Enter Abort, Retry, xomething, or Fxxxxx):"
What should I do? (I don't remember the exact message, but
you've all seen the part in parens.)

This error message means what it says: your boot manager (when
commanded to boot Win98) points the system to a hard drive that
has no Win98 boot code.

This is why the simplest way of dual-booting Win98 and WinXP is to
have each on a separate hard drive, Win98's formatted FAT32 and
with Win98 boot code, and WinXP's formatted NTFS and with WinXP
boot code. Win98 cannot read NTFS drives, so the OS will present
its boot drive as C: (even if WinXP sees it as drive D:.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)