Unofficial Time Zones Update (Testers wanted)

**MEB** · February 21st 07, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

**Gary S. Terhune** · February 21st 07, 05:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Found it easier to simply open the README.TXT file at the end of the
procedure. And I'll make it all self-executing. Right now, time is becoming
of the essence, if you'll pardon the pun. Should go live tomorrow AM. If
anyone wants to help, I've already noted that I welcome any assistance. But
I'll start a new thread, and broadcast it wider when I've finished the
updating. I'll have time and a machine available on Thurs. afternoon and/or
Fri. AM for that purpose (newsgroup advertising.)

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PCR" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Good idea, but in 2K, the BAT file automatically closes on Exit, so it
will
| have to be....
|
| ECHO Press any key to Exit.
|
| And I think I'll just add the last three steps to the BAT Echoes, make
the
| ZIP self-executing, since lots of folks will need to actually change
their
| time zone... Everyone outside the US that is affected, basically. Like
| Mexico.
|
| Have to relearn my DOS!!!

OK. Cquirke or Blanton would be great for the .bat. Also, someone else
has been posting little DOS gems-- maybe it was Zabcar or Lipman or
Ingeborg, even. I do trust you do have the right values for the time
zones, as you said you exported them from an XP machine that did get
them from the actual, finalized MS patch. OK, then.

**Gary S. Terhune** · February 21st 07, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

After running it on an incredibly challenged VPC, approximating the behavior
of Win98SE on a P133 with 32MB RAM (parent machine is running XP Home w/ 256
MB RAM), I decided 1000 is too much. Made it 100 instead, g. Hey, I used
up thirty just testing the BAT file.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| OK, I've fixed it so there can be as many as a thousand backups. That
enough
| for you, g?
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User

WHAT! Only a thousand, make it so it fills the disk until nothing more
fits... not!!!

--
MEB
_______________

|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| I could have it search for previous BAK file(s) and rename them. Don't
| *think* that's too hard to do with a BAT file. Or, I may turn it all
into
a
| VB script. See how manic I am this week. Running out of time, s. Then
| again, every reinstall....
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "tom" wrote in message
| oups.com...
| One minor issue. I think that if someone runs the patch twice on the
| same system they will wipe out there backup recovery file. So if
| someone intends to run it twice for some reason then they should
| rename the backup file. But maybe this is too obvious.
|
| On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs,
web
| page
| proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
| systems,
| 95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates
for,
| and
| the info is already in Vista.)
|
| The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one
they're
| willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
| another
| several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a
| VPC.
|
| Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com
|
| Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
| newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it,
and
| it
| isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express
| option at
| Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me,
but
| the
| logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
| Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it.
Dumb,
| dumb, dumb!
|
| PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
| Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
| until
| others have proven them out.
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
|
|
|
|
|

**Gary S. Terhune** · February 21st 07, 05:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Actually, I've *done* all that, and deleted a lot of crap that is only
useful to XP machines. Plus adding several MapID's where MS couldn't be
bothered. Gotta wonder which mop-wielding janitor they saddled this project
with. I mean that quite literally, not in any way figuratively!

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PCR" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some errors
in the
| previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates to account for this
and
| to add some features, but I won't be done until late tonight or
tomorrow AM,
| Pacific time.

Ah! Good! I hope that's their last update, though. So...

You will run this update on an XP machine, & then export the Registry
key? That's how you do it, maybe reverting some of the Registry values
too (such as "Eastern Standard Time" back to just "Eastern"? I guess
that does it, then. Very good.

**MEB** · February 21st 07, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

**PCR** · February 21st 07, 06:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

That's good too, maybe better. Alright, I'll look in. Get a little fancy
with the .bat. For instance, only create one TZ_BAK.REG, as tom
suggested.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Found it easier to simply open the README.TXT file at the end of the
| procedure. And I'll make it all self-executing. Right now, time is
becoming
| of the essence, if you'll pardon the pun. Should go live tomorrow AM.
If
| anyone wants to help, I've already noted that I welcome any
assistance. But
| I'll start a new thread, and broadcast it wider when I've finished the
| updating. I'll have time and a machine available on Thurs. afternoon
and/or
| Fri. AM for that purpose (newsgroup advertising.)
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| | Good idea, but in 2K, the BAT file automatically closes on Exit,
so it
| will
| | have to be....
| |
| | ECHO Press any key to Exit.
| |
| | And I think I'll just add the last three steps to the BAT Echoes,
make
| the
| | ZIP self-executing, since lots of folks will need to actually
change
| their
| | time zone... Everyone outside the US that is affected, basically.
Like
| | Mexico.
| |
| | Have to relearn my DOS!!!
|
| OK. Cquirke or Blanton would be great for the .bat. Also, someone
else
| has been posting little DOS gems-- maybe it was Zabcar or Lipman or
| Ingeborg, even. I do trust you do have the right values for the time
| zones, as you said you exported them from an XP machine that did get
| them from the actual, finalized MS patch. OK, then.
|
|

**PCR** · February 21st 07, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Actually, I've *done* all that,

Twice now, right? the second, to incorporate the hopefully final MS
update of those zones?

| and deleted a lot of crap that is only
| useful to XP machines. Plus adding several MapID's where MS couldn't
| be bothered. Gotta wonder which mop-wielding janitor they saddled
| this project with. I mean that quite literally, not in any way
| figuratively!

I wonder too. I see you had to fiddle with things after the export.
There's no chance totally new zones were created now, or visa versa? If
so, do you have it covered in your doings?

| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| | Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some
| | errors in the previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates
| | to account for this and to add some features, but I won't be done
| | until late tonight or tomorrow AM, Pacific time.
|
| Ah! Good! I hope that's their last update, though. So...
|
| You will run this update on an XP machine, & then export the Registry
| key? That's how you do it, maybe reverting some of the Registry
| values too (such as "Eastern Standard Time" back to just "Eastern"?
| I guess that does it, then. Very good.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

**Gary S. Terhune** · February 21st 07, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Won't be up until later today, earliest. Have to update the web page and
also test the NT version. VPC I have available is slower than snail snot.
Started installing Win2K at 5:30 and it's still working on it, 5 hours
later!

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PCR" wrote in message
...
That's good too, maybe better. Alright, I'll look in. Get a little fancy
with the .bat. For instance, only create one TZ_BAK.REG, as tom
suggested.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Found it easier to simply open the README.TXT file at the end of the
| procedure. And I'll make it all self-executing. Right now, time is
becoming
| of the essence, if you'll pardon the pun. Should go live tomorrow AM.
If
| anyone wants to help, I've already noted that I welcome any
assistance. But
| I'll start a new thread, and broadcast it wider when I've finished the
| updating. I'll have time and a machine available on Thurs. afternoon
and/or
| Fri. AM for that purpose (newsgroup advertising.)
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| | Good idea, but in 2K, the BAT file automatically closes on Exit,
so it
| will
| | have to be....
| |
| | ECHO Press any key to Exit.
| |
| | And I think I'll just add the last three steps to the BAT Echoes,
make
| the
| | ZIP self-executing, since lots of folks will need to actually
change
| their
| | time zone... Everyone outside the US that is affected, basically.
Like
| | Mexico.
| |
| | Have to relearn my DOS!!!
|
| OK. Cquirke or Blanton would be great for the .bat. Also, someone
else
| has been posting little DOS gems-- maybe it was Zabcar or Lipman or
| Ingeborg, even. I do trust you do have the right values for the time
| zones, as you said you exported them from an XP machine that did get
| them from the actual, finalized MS patch. OK, then.
|
|

**Gary S. Terhune** · February 21st 07, 06:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Yes, at least ten totally new zones. For example, Mexico didn't change their
laws, so they're on the old DST schedule instead of synched with ours. Thus,
they need their own zones. And some place in central Asia has segregated
itself from Russia and its TZ schedule. Things like that.

Those are the ones missing MapID values. Plus a bunch if info that is
useful only to WinXP/2K3 "Dynamic Updates" (accounting for future changes).

If you want to see the new ones, use the MGDX update on a fresh Registry and
look for the ones that have "Standard Time" added to the names and missing
MapID value.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PCR" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Actually, I've *done* all that,

Twice now, right? the second, to incorporate the hopefully final MS
update of those zones?

| and deleted a lot of crap that is only
| useful to XP machines. Plus adding several MapID's where MS couldn't
| be bothered. Gotta wonder which mop-wielding janitor they saddled
| this project with. I mean that quite literally, not in any way
| figuratively!

I wonder too. I see you had to fiddle with things after the export.
There's no chance totally new zones were created now, or visa versa? If
so, do you have it covered in your doings?

| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| | Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some
| | errors in the previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates
| | to account for this and to add some features, but I won't be done
| | until late tonight or tomorrow AM, Pacific time.
|
| Ah! Good! I hope that's their last update, though. So...
|
| You will run this update on an XP machine, & then export the Registry
| key? That's how you do it, maybe reverting some of the Registry
| values too (such as "Eastern Standard Time" back to just "Eastern"?
| I guess that does it, then. Very good.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

**PCR** · February 21st 07, 06:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Won't be up until later today, earliest. Have to update the web page
| and also test the NT version. VPC I have available is slower than
| snail snot. Started installing Win2K at 5:30 and it's still working
| on it, 5 hours later!

Very well. If you SWEAR it won't create 1000 backups, I may try it
myself tomorrow night. But, really, I have other things I'm neglecting
to do, such as choosing between Avira & Avast for a McAfee replacement.
I'm tired of manually downloading def files now that McAfee won't
auto-do it-- & it may not be strictly legal to take them from an Intel
FTP site anyhow!

| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| That's good too, maybe better. Alright, I'll look in. Get a little
| fancy with the .bat. For instance, only create one TZ_BAK.REG, as tom
| suggested.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| | Found it easier to simply open the README.TXT file at the end of
| | the procedure. And I'll make it all self-executing. Right now,
| | time is becoming of the essence, if you'll pardon the pun. Should
| | go live tomorrow AM. If anyone wants to help, I've already noted
| | that I welcome any assistance. But I'll start a new thread, and
| | broadcast it wider when I've finished the updating. I'll have time
| | and a machine available on Thurs. afternoon and/or Fri. AM for
| | that purpose (newsgroup advertising.)
| |
| | --
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Good idea, but in 2K, the BAT file automatically closes on
| | | Exit, so it will have to be....
| | |
| | | ECHO Press any key to Exit.
| | |
| | | And I think I'll just add the last three steps to the BAT
| | | Echoes, make the ZIP self-executing, since lots of folks will
| | | need to actually change their time zone... Everyone outside
| | | the US that is affected, basically. Like Mexico.
| | |
| | | Have to relearn my DOS!!!
| |
| | OK. Cquirke or Blanton would be great for the .bat. Also,
| | someone else has been posting little DOS gems-- maybe it was
| | Zabcar or Lipman or Ingeborg, even. I do trust you do have the
| | right values for the time zones, as you said you exported them
| | from an XP machine that did get them from the actual, finalized
| | MS patch. OK, then.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

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