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Sometimes the computer will be like suspended-just sits
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It's not uncommon and it's called a total freeze, sometimes a crash.
You probably need to run IE Repair, but save that until after reading and absorbing the following. IE Repair *should_be* found in the Tools menu of System Information (use Start=Run to run MSINFO32) [Note to regulars: I will soon create a webpage or two or three that replicates the following (with enhancements, of course, plus some additional t-shooting, Grystmill style), so I can reduce the load I impose here by repeating it so often. I know it's long overdue, but that's life, s.) The below includes significant new material. Review, comments and corrections requested.] See my article, "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it" http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...GP11.phx.gb l Because some of the more recent known invaders are capable of interfering with the suggestions contained in the above, I suggest you also consider first doing the following, though it may be necessary to set up a clean boot, and even then manually kill a malicious process or two before you can even get these accomplished. Many invaders are built to first detect and disable protections that are in place, so that you might, for instance, have to obtain and employ a DOS-boot antivirus like F-Prot. Repeated running of scanners, booting back and forth from Safe Mode to Normal, or into DOS Mode--a lot of gymnastics are often required to get to an error-free and nasties-free condition. Once there, however, some user sanity and education, plus regular "wetware" updating, will *keep* your system healthy. Update your Antivirus, run a full scan. Then, if you haven't already, obtain, update, and run any or all of the following Trojan/Parasite/Adware/Spyware cleaners. I recommend getting and running *all* of them. They each target slightly different things. Again, be sure you update the definitions they are using to identify crap before running them, each time you run them--which, depending on your surfing habits, should be anything from once a month, to once a week, to once a day, to once an hour if you're really into junkware sites (aka "Free goodies", game sites, fun-places-to-be, etc.) Tradition had it that Firewalls were generally not needed when using simple dial-up modem connections. Alas, this is no longer the case. *Everyone* needs a firewall! Also, I make no bones about it--Norton, McAfee and Trend-Micro products (and probably a few others) are ABOMINATIONS!, particularly when it comes to Win9x systems. They are massive suites that intrude into basic functions where they simply do not need to go. For freeware solutions, I suggest AVG or AVAST (based upon the recommendations of others, though each has it's minor drawbacks) and ZoneAlarm Firewall. But for really good, inexpensive, and trustworthy protection, you simply can't beat eTrust Armor. Antivirus and Firewall combined, very non-intrusive upon the system itself (I've *never* seen a crash caused by EZ Antivirus, and there's hardly any impact whatsoever on Resources, etc.) eTrust is from Computer Associates Inc.--the antivirus is a version of their corporate product usually known as Inoculan, and they got smart recently and switched to using a version of ZoneAlarm for their firewall. You can get a one-year free trial of eTrust EZ Armor at http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/. This offer was initially slated to end this June, but has been extended through February 2005. The trial offer is also included in at least some versions (not sure about all languages) of Microsoft's Windows Security Update CD, an item *everyone* should own. (However, do *not* just run the Update CD on your system without a proper analysis of where your system stands with regard to Updates. Might do more harm than good.) EZ Armor would normally cost $50 for the first year (a deal in itself), and yearly renewal subscriptions only cost $25--an absolute steal when compared with other offerings. Order the Windows Security Update CD directly from MS, totally free, including S&H, at http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp In addition to Antivirus and Firewall protection, I consider the following items to be indispensable protection and clean-up utilities. My judgment is based upon their being free, good, accurate, and safe, if handled correctly. See, also, suggestions from MVP Mike Burgess on his site, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/, particularly the general Windows/IE Security page, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/security.htm. More current discussions of Security issues can be found at the Windows Support Center (provided by MVP Jim Eshelman, a true Saint!) at http://www.aumha.org (SpyBot S&D = "SpyBot Search & Destroy") Ad-Aware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ SpyBot S&D http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download HijackThis http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe CWShredder http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html PLEASE! Before doing any of these, see also, http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm for suggestions and cautionary information about internet surfing, and some important hints about using the above. ESPECIALLY, be aware that HijackThis scans result in a LOT of stuff that you *don't* want to delete. The admonishment to save a log and show it to an expert is critically good advice. Not following that advice can really do some damage to your system. SpyBot S&D, too, is capable of similar problems, especially if you change default scan settings, or "Immunize". An additional tool that is very helpful in protecting your machine is a HOSTS file. Microsoft MVP Mike Burgess maintain a frequently updated list of bad sites. They may be sites that provide most of the junky advertisements you see in other places, or sites that install spyware/adware, or that, for whatever reason, you shouldn't allow into your system. Using the HOSTS file, you can redirect such addresses to a site that's guaranteed will fail to load on most machines--your own computer. HOSTS Overview -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Also handy is MVP George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager. You can find it at the bottom of this page: http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Software.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "saltshaker02" wrote in message ... Sometimes the computer will be like suspended-just sits there. Can't get it to do anything. It will be either in my mail or on the web. Is this common? I have to shut the computer down and restart it. Can anyone help? Thanks. |
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Dear Gary,
To start...Thank You very much for your efforts to help so many people. You are one of the greatest! Your suggestion on useing Computer Associates products are right on line. Bravo! Now...I use Sygate free firewall. It works great. I had to learn how to configure it. But once done it keeps just about everything,bad, out. If it can't? It will at least alert me to it. And what the firewall does not stop? My EZ Antivirus will. But niether will stop all malware. A tool you REALLY ought to look in to is "Complete Internet Cleanup" from http://www.pcmesh.com It does cost. About $25. But it has a,short lived, trial version also. I have gotten spyware/malware on this computer. And know where it came from. Spybot or AdAware will find them and get rid of them. HijackThis works where the other two may fail. What I'm getting at is that if I get some type of malware on the PC and delete it with,say, AdAware. I went back to the site/s and got it again. Now useing "CIC Pro".(With all options checked) I click on it's desktop icon select OK and answer "yes" to the restart. The machine reboots. Once back to desktop. I run Adaware or Spybot and there is nothing bad on the machine. When before I run the "CIC Pro" the malware was there. Tell me if I am wrong. Most malware,that can't be stopped, are attached to cookies that IE loads to your system. Right? And AdAware and Spybot finds these. If you are running a big system and doing a deep scan. This may take a minute or two. "CIC Pro",with three mouse clicks, cleans/shreds IE temps and deletes index.dat files plus alot of other temp files. And the time is just the time required to reboot. With mine is about 30 seconds. Adaware takes more than a minute to do it's thorough scan. I am not saying just to use "CIC Pro". But it IS another very effective tool. And will get rid of stuff that may take AdAware a couple of passes to find. I do not have to go into Dos and worry about typeing the temp string right with the proper spaces and proper direction to rid my machine of pesky malware. CIC Pro does this for me,in half a minute, useing,only,three mouse strokes. I would suggest you try it. You may like it. -----Original Message----- It's not uncommon and it's called a total freeze, sometimes a crash. You probably need to run IE Repair, but save that until after reading and absorbing the following. IE Repair *should_be* found in the Tools menu of System Information (use Start=Run to run MSINFO32) [Note to regulars: I will soon create a webpage or two or three that replicates the following (with enhancements, of course, plus some additional t-shooting, Grystmill style), so I can reduce the load I impose here by repeating it so often. I know it's long overdue, but that's life, s.) The below includes significant new material. Review, comments and corrections requested.] See my article, "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it" http://www.google.com/groups?selm=% Because some of the more recent known invaders are capable of interfering with the suggestions contained in the above, I suggest you also consider first doing the following, though it may be necessary to set up a clean boot, and even then manually kill a malicious process or two before you can even get these accomplished. Many invaders are built to first detect and disable protections that are in place, so that you might, for instance, have to obtain and employ a DOS-boot antivirus like F-Prot. Repeated running of scanners, booting back and forth from Safe Mode to Normal, or into DOS Mode--a lot of gymnastics are often required to get to an error-free and nasties-free condition. Once there, however, some user sanity and education, plus regular "wetware" updating, will *keep* your system healthy. Update your Antivirus, run a full scan. Then, if you haven't already, obtain, update, and run any or all of the following Trojan/Parasite/Adware/Spyware cleaners. I recommend getting and running *all* of them. They each target slightly different things. Again, be sure you update the definitions they are using to identify crap before running them, each time you run them--which, depending on your surfing habits, should be anything from once a month, to once a week, to once a day, to once an hour if you're really into junkware sites (aka "Free goodies", game sites, fun-places-to-be, etc.) Tradition had it that Firewalls were generally not needed when using simple dial-up modem connections. Alas, this is no longer the case. *Everyone* needs a firewall! Also, I make no bones about it--Norton, McAfee and Trend-Micro products (and probably a few others) are ABOMINATIONS!, particularly when it comes to Win9x systems. They are massive suites that intrude into basic functions where they simply do not need to go. For freeware solutions, I suggest AVG or AVAST (based upon the recommendations of others, though each has it's minor drawbacks) and ZoneAlarm Firewall. But for really good, inexpensive, and trustworthy protection, you simply can't beat eTrust Armor. Antivirus and Firewall combined, very non-intrusive upon the system itself (I've *never* seen a crash caused by EZ Antivirus, and there's hardly any impact whatsoever on Resources, etc.) eTrust is from Computer Associates Inc.--the antivirus is a version of their corporate product usually known as Inoculan, and they got smart recently and switched to using a version of ZoneAlarm for their firewall. You can get a one-year free trial of eTrust EZ Armor at http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/. This offer was initially slated to end this June, but has been extended through February 2005. The trial offer is also included in at least some versions (not sure about all languages) of Microsoft's Windows Security Update CD, an item *everyone* should own. (However, do *not* just run the Update CD on your system without a proper analysis of where your system stands with regard to Updates. Might do more harm than good.) EZ Armor would normally cost $50 for the first year (a deal in itself), and yearly renewal subscriptions only cost $25--an absolute steal when compared with other offerings. Order the Windows Security Update CD directly from MS, totally free, including S&H, at http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp In addition to Antivirus and Firewall protection, I consider the following items to be indispensable protection and clean-up utilities. My judgment is based upon their being free, good, accurate, and safe, if handled correctly. See, also, suggestions from MVP Mike Burgess on his site, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/, particularly the general Windows/IE Security page, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/security.htm. More current discussions of Security issues can be found at the Windows Support Center (provided by MVP Jim Eshelman, a true Saint!) at http://www.aumha.org (SpyBot S&D = "SpyBot Search & Destroy") Ad-Aware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ SpyBot S&D http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php? page=download HijackThis http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe CWShredder http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html PLEASE! Before doing any of these, see also, http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm for suggestions and cautionary information about internet surfing, and some important hints about using the above. ESPECIALLY, be aware that HijackThis scans result in a LOT of stuff that you *don't* want to delete. The admonishment to save a log and show it to an expert is critically good advice. Not following that advice can really do some damage to your system. SpyBot S&D, too, is capable of similar problems, especially if you change default scan settings, or "Immunize". An additional tool that is very helpful in protecting your machine is a HOSTS file. Microsoft MVP Mike Burgess maintain a frequently updated list of bad sites. They may be sites that provide most of the junky advertisements you see in other places, or sites that install spyware/adware, or that, for whatever reason, you shouldn't allow into your system. Using the HOSTS file, you can redirect such addresses to a site that's guaranteed will fail to load on most machines--your own computer. HOSTS Overview -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Also handy is MVP George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager. You can find it at the bottom of this page: http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Software.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "saltshaker02" wrote in message ... Sometimes the computer will be like suspended-just sits there. Can't get it to do anything. It will be either in my mail or on the web. Is this common? I have to shut the computer down and restart it. Can anyone help? Thanks. . |
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I'll admit, until I get another test machine online, I am loathe to load
anything that doesn't come with a ton of recommendations--and even then, I usually limit my listening to the pronouncements of fellow MVPs. Which is why, for instance. I recently added Spyware Blaster to the panoply. Between that and the MVP HOSTS file (with George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager), while I still run the other "Four Horsemen" (AdAware, Spybot S&D, HijackThis and CWShredder) on a weekly basis, it's been months since they found anything. IOW, I'm not about to load CIC onto my working machine. I understand the lure of apps that "do it all", but even Cleanup Manager in Windows is a pile of junk. My maintenance recommendations, when practiced regularly, don't take much time at all. And they keep the user *aware* of what, precisely, is happening in the TEMP folder, for instance. As for where malware comes from, there's no one source. Some cookies can be a problem, but I use IE6 Advanced cookie handling, and permanently reject 99.99% of all cookies. Even so, the worst malware (aside from out & out viruses) are installed by code that's embedded in the HTML of the pages you visit. With proper Security settings, you usually have to perform some overt action (some particular click) to permit the installation. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "ppoatt" wrote in message ... Dear Gary, To start...Thank You very much for your efforts to help so many people. You are one of the greatest! Your suggestion on useing Computer Associates products are right on line. Bravo! Now...I use Sygate free firewall. It works great. I had to learn how to configure it. But once done it keeps just about everything,bad, out. If it can't? It will at least alert me to it. And what the firewall does not stop? My EZ Antivirus will. But niether will stop all malware. A tool you REALLY ought to look in to is "Complete Internet Cleanup" from http://www.pcmesh.com It does cost. About $25. But it has a,short lived, trial version also. I have gotten spyware/malware on this computer. And know where it came from. Spybot or AdAware will find them and get rid of them. HijackThis works where the other two may fail. What I'm getting at is that if I get some type of malware on the PC and delete it with,say, AdAware. I went back to the site/s and got it again. Now useing "CIC Pro".(With all options checked) I click on it's desktop icon select OK and answer "yes" to the restart. The machine reboots. Once back to desktop. I run Adaware or Spybot and there is nothing bad on the machine. When before I run the "CIC Pro" the malware was there. Tell me if I am wrong. Most malware,that can't be stopped, are attached to cookies that IE loads to your system. Right? And AdAware and Spybot finds these. If you are running a big system and doing a deep scan. This may take a minute or two. "CIC Pro",with three mouse clicks, cleans/shreds IE temps and deletes index.dat files plus alot of other temp files. And the time is just the time required to reboot. With mine is about 30 seconds. Adaware takes more than a minute to do it's thorough scan. I am not saying just to use "CIC Pro". But it IS another very effective tool. And will get rid of stuff that may take AdAware a couple of passes to find. I do not have to go into Dos and worry about typeing the temp string right with the proper spaces and proper direction to rid my machine of pesky malware. CIC Pro does this for me,in half a minute, useing,only,three mouse strokes. I would suggest you try it. You may like it. -----Original Message----- It's not uncommon and it's called a total freeze, sometimes a crash. You probably need to run IE Repair, but save that until after reading and absorbing the following. IE Repair *should_be* found in the Tools menu of System Information (use Start=Run to run MSINFO32) [Note to regulars: I will soon create a webpage or two or three that replicates the following (with enhancements, of course, plus some additional t-shooting, Grystmill style), so I can reduce the load I impose here by repeating it so often. I know it's long overdue, but that's life, s.) The below includes significant new material. Review, comments and corrections requested.] See my article, "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it" http://www.google.com/groups?selm=% Because some of the more recent known invaders are capable of interfering with the suggestions contained in the above, I suggest you also consider first doing the following, though it may be necessary to set up a clean boot, and even then manually kill a malicious process or two before you can even get these accomplished. Many invaders are built to first detect and disable protections that are in place, so that you might, for instance, have to obtain and employ a DOS-boot antivirus like F-Prot. Repeated running of scanners, booting back and forth from Safe Mode to Normal, or into DOS Mode--a lot of gymnastics are often required to get to an error-free and nasties-free condition. Once there, however, some user sanity and education, plus regular "wetware" updating, will *keep* your system healthy. Update your Antivirus, run a full scan. Then, if you haven't already, obtain, update, and run any or all of the following Trojan/Parasite/Adware/Spyware cleaners. I recommend getting and running *all* of them. They each target slightly different things. Again, be sure you update the definitions they are using to identify crap before running them, each time you run them--which, depending on your surfing habits, should be anything from once a month, to once a week, to once a day, to once an hour if you're really into junkware sites (aka "Free goodies", game sites, fun-places-to-be, etc.) Tradition had it that Firewalls were generally not needed when using simple dial-up modem connections. Alas, this is no longer the case. *Everyone* needs a firewall! Also, I make no bones about it--Norton, McAfee and Trend-Micro products (and probably a few others) are ABOMINATIONS!, particularly when it comes to Win9x systems. They are massive suites that intrude into basic functions where they simply do not need to go. For freeware solutions, I suggest AVG or AVAST (based upon the recommendations of others, though each has it's minor drawbacks) and ZoneAlarm Firewall. But for really good, inexpensive, and trustworthy protection, you simply can't beat eTrust Armor. Antivirus and Firewall combined, very non-intrusive upon the system itself (I've *never* seen a crash caused by EZ Antivirus, and there's hardly any impact whatsoever on Resources, etc.) eTrust is from Computer Associates Inc.--the antivirus is a version of their corporate product usually known as Inoculan, and they got smart recently and switched to using a version of ZoneAlarm for their firewall. You can get a one-year free trial of eTrust EZ Armor at http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/. This offer was initially slated to end this June, but has been extended through February 2005. The trial offer is also included in at least some versions (not sure about all languages) of Microsoft's Windows Security Update CD, an item *everyone* should own. (However, do *not* just run the Update CD on your system without a proper analysis of where your system stands with regard to Updates. Might do more harm than good.) EZ Armor would normally cost $50 for the first year (a deal in itself), and yearly renewal subscriptions only cost $25--an absolute steal when compared with other offerings. Order the Windows Security Update CD directly from MS, totally free, including S&H, at http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp In addition to Antivirus and Firewall protection, I consider the following items to be indispensable protection and clean-up utilities. My judgment is based upon their being free, good, accurate, and safe, if handled correctly. See, also, suggestions from MVP Mike Burgess on his site, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/, particularly the general Windows/IE Security page, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/security.htm. More current discussions of Security issues can be found at the Windows Support Center (provided by MVP Jim Eshelman, a true Saint!) at http://www.aumha.org (SpyBot S&D = "SpyBot Search & Destroy") Ad-Aware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ SpyBot S&D http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php? page=download HijackThis http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe CWShredder http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html PLEASE! Before doing any of these, see also, http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm for suggestions and cautionary information about internet surfing, and some important hints about using the above. ESPECIALLY, be aware that HijackThis scans result in a LOT of stuff that you *don't* want to delete. The admonishment to save a log and show it to an expert is critically good advice. Not following that advice can really do some damage to your system. SpyBot S&D, too, is capable of similar problems, especially if you change default scan settings, or "Immunize". An additional tool that is very helpful in protecting your machine is a HOSTS file. Microsoft MVP Mike Burgess maintain a frequently updated list of bad sites. They may be sites that provide most of the junky advertisements you see in other places, or sites that install spyware/adware, or that, for whatever reason, you shouldn't allow into your system. Using the HOSTS file, you can redirect such addresses to a site that's guaranteed will fail to load on most machines--your own computer. HOSTS Overview -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Also handy is MVP George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager. You can find it at the bottom of this page: http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Software.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "saltshaker02" wrote in message ... Sometimes the computer will be like suspended-just sits there. Can't get it to do anything. It will be either in my mail or on the web. Is this common? I have to shut the computer down and restart it. Can anyone help? Thanks. . |
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I have used "CIC Pro2.0" for about 3 years now.
Run it before any shut down. The newer version has options to restart or shutdown. Sometimes I run it as soon as I disconnect off the net. If I am going to still leave the PC on. I have had no,what so ever,ill effects from useing it. I think after 3 years of use it would show some kind of ill-effect if there was one. What it simply cleans is: index.dat files typed URLs names,passwords,etc. recent Documents folder Windows search history Windows Run history Windows temp folder Recycle Bin I know I can do most of this through Windows. But you have to go to the various folders and do this manually. And I have not heard of anyway to delete index.dat files other than going into dos to do it. This is a sound program. And I recommend it to anyone. The simplicity of it's use is what I like. And not all users that come here are as adept as you or other MVPs in dealing with dos. If they were? They wouldn't be asking for help. time at all. And they keep the user *aware* of what, precisely, is happening in the TEMP folder, for instance. This program does no more than what it says it will. And you can select what it is alowed to do. It is a very usefull tool. Not a solve all. -----Original Message----- I'll admit, until I get another test machine online, I am loathe to load anything that doesn't come with a ton of recommendations-- and even then, I usually limit my listening to the pronouncements of fellow MVPs. Which is why, for instance. I recently added Spyware Blaster to the panoply. Between that and the MVP HOSTS file (with George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager), while I still run the other "Four Horsemen" (AdAware, Spybot S&D, HijackThis and CWShredder) on a weekly basis, it's been months since they found anything. IOW, I'm not about to load CIC onto my working machine. I understand the lure of apps that "do it all", but even Cleanup Manager in Windows is a pile of junk. My maintenance recommendations, when practiced regularly, don't take much time at all. And they keep the user *aware* of what, precisely, is happening in the TEMP folder, for instance. As for where malware comes from, there's no one source. Some cookies can be a problem, but I use IE6 Advanced cookie handling, and permanently reject 99.99% of all cookies. Even so, the worst malware (aside from out & out viruses) are installed by code that's embedded in the HTML of the pages you visit. With proper Security settings, you usually have to perform some overt action (some particular click) to permit the installation. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "ppoatt" wrote in message ... Dear Gary, To start...Thank You very much for your efforts to help so many people. You are one of the greatest! Your suggestion on useing Computer Associates products are right on line. Bravo! Now...I use Sygate free firewall. It works great. I had to learn how to configure it. But once done it keeps just about everything,bad, out. If it can't? It will at least alert me to it. And what the firewall does not stop? My EZ Antivirus will. But niether will stop all malware. A tool you REALLY ought to look in to is "Complete Internet Cleanup" from http://www.pcmesh.com It does cost. About $25. But it has a,short lived, trial version also. I have gotten spyware/malware on this computer. And know where it came from. Spybot or AdAware will find them and get rid of them. HijackThis works where the other two may fail. What I'm getting at is that if I get some type of malware on the PC and delete it with,say, AdAware. I went back to the site/s and got it again. Now useing "CIC Pro".(With all options checked) I click on it's desktop icon select OK and answer "yes" to the restart. The machine reboots. Once back to desktop. I run Adaware or Spybot and there is nothing bad on the machine. When before I run the "CIC Pro" the malware was there. Tell me if I am wrong. Most malware,that can't be stopped, are attached to cookies that IE loads to your system. Right? And AdAware and Spybot finds these. If you are running a big system and doing a deep scan. This may take a minute or two. "CIC Pro",with three mouse clicks, cleans/shreds IE temps and deletes index.dat files plus alot of other temp files. And the time is just the time required to reboot. With mine is about 30 seconds. Adaware takes more than a minute to do it's thorough scan. I am not saying just to use "CIC Pro". But it IS another very effective tool. And will get rid of stuff that may take AdAware a couple of passes to find. I do not have to go into Dos and worry about typeing the temp string right with the proper spaces and proper direction to rid my machine of pesky malware. CIC Pro does this for me,in half a minute, useing,only,three mouse strokes. I would suggest you try it. You may like it. -----Original Message----- It's not uncommon and it's called a total freeze, sometimes a crash. You probably need to run IE Repair, but save that until after reading and absorbing the following. IE Repair *should_be* found in the Tools menu of System Information (use Start=Run to run MSINFO32) [Note to regulars: I will soon create a webpage or two or three that replicates the following (with enhancements, of course, plus some additional t-shooting, Grystmill style), so I can reduce the load I impose here by repeating it so often. I know it's long overdue, but that's life, s.) The below includes significant new material. Review, comments and corrections requested.] See my article, "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it" http://www.google.com/groups?selm=% Because some of the more recent known invaders are capable of interfering with the suggestions contained in the above, I suggest you also consider first doing the following, though it may be necessary to set up a clean boot, and even then manually kill a malicious process or two before you can even get these accomplished. Many invaders are built to first detect and disable protections that are in place, so that you might, for instance, have to obtain and employ a DOS-boot antivirus like F-Prot. Repeated running of scanners, booting back and forth from Safe Mode to Normal, or into DOS Mode--a lot of gymnastics are often required to get to an error-free and nasties-free condition. Once there, however, some user sanity and education, plus regular "wetware" updating, will *keep* your system healthy. Update your Antivirus, run a full scan. Then, if you haven't already, obtain, update, and run any or all of the following Trojan/Parasite/Adware/Spyware cleaners. I recommend getting and running *all* of them. They each target slightly different things. Again, be sure you update the definitions they are using to identify crap before running them, each time you run them--which, depending on your surfing habits, should be anything from once a month, to once a week, to once a day, to once an hour if you're really into junkware sites (aka "Free goodies", game sites, fun-places-to-be, etc.) Tradition had it that Firewalls were generally not needed when using simple dial-up modem connections. Alas, this is no longer the case. *Everyone* needs a firewall! Also, I make no bones about it-- Norton, McAfee and Trend-Micro products (and probably a few others) are ABOMINATIONS!, particularly when it comes to Win9x systems. They are massive suites that intrude into basic functions where they simply do not need to go. For freeware solutions, I suggest AVG or AVAST (based upon the recommendations of others, though each has it's minor drawbacks) and ZoneAlarm Firewall. But for really good, inexpensive, and trustworthy protection, you simply can't beat eTrust Armor. Antivirus and Firewall combined, very non-intrusive upon the system itself (I've *never* seen a crash caused by EZ Antivirus, and there's hardly any impact whatsoever on Resources, etc.) eTrust is from Computer Associates Inc.--the antivirus is a version of their corporate product usually known as Inoculan, and they got smart recently and switched to using a version of ZoneAlarm for their firewall. You can get a one-year free trial of eTrust EZ Armor at http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/. This offer was initially slated to end this June, but has been extended through February 2005. The trial offer is also included in at least some versions (not sure about all languages) of Microsoft's Windows Security Update CD, an item *everyone* should own. (However, do *not* just run the Update CD on your system without a proper analysis of where your system stands with regard to Updates. Might do more harm than good.) EZ Armor would normally cost $50 for the first year (a deal in itself), and yearly renewal subscriptions only cost $25--an absolute steal when compared with other offerings. Order the Windows Security Update CD directly from MS, totally free, including S&H, at http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp In addition to Antivirus and Firewall protection, I consider the following items to be indispensable protection and clean-up utilities. My judgment is based upon their being free, good, accurate, and safe, if handled correctly. See, also, suggestions from MVP Mike Burgess on his site, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/, particularly the general Windows/IE Security page, http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/security.htm. More current discussions of Security issues can be found at the Windows Support Center (provided by MVP Jim Eshelman, a true Saint!) at http://www.aumha.org (SpyBot S&D = "SpyBot Search & Destroy") Ad-Aware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ SpyBot S&D http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php? page=download HijackThis http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe CWShredder http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html PLEASE! Before doing any of these, see also, http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm for suggestions and cautionary information about internet surfing, and some important hints about using the above. ESPECIALLY, be aware that HijackThis scans result in a LOT of stuff that you *don't* want to delete. The admonishment to save a log and show it to an expert is critically good advice. Not following that advice can really do some damage to your system. SpyBot S&D, too, is capable of similar problems, especially if you change default scan settings, or "Immunize". An additional tool that is very helpful in protecting your machine is a HOSTS file. Microsoft MVP Mike Burgess maintain a frequently updated list of bad sites. They may be sites that provide most of the junky advertisements you see in other places, or sites that install spyware/adware, or that, for whatever reason, you shouldn't allow into your system. Using the HOSTS file, you can redirect such addresses to a site that's guaranteed will fail to load on most machines--your own computer. HOSTS Overview -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Also handy is MVP George Geyde's HOSTS File Manager. You can find it at the bottom of this page: http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Software.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "saltshaker02" wrote in message ... Sometimes the computer will be like suspended-just sits there. Can't get it to do anything. It will be either in my mail or on the web. Is this common? I have to shut the computer down and restart it. Can anyone help? Thanks. . . |
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... I have used "CIC Pro2.0" for about 3 years now. Run it before any shut down. The newer version has options to restart or shutdown. Sometimes I run it as soon as I disconnect off the net. If I am going to still leave the PC on. I have had no,what so ever,ill effects from useing it. I think after 3 years of use it would show some kind of ill-effect if there was one. What it simply cleans is: index.dat files typed URLs names,passwords,etc. recent Documents folder Windows search history Windows Run history Windows temp folder Recycle Bin I know I can do most of this through Windows. But you have to go to the various folders and do this manually. And I have not heard of anyway to delete index.dat files other than going into dos to do it. This is a sound program. And I recommend it to anyone. The simplicity of it's use is what I like. And not all users that come here are as adept as you or other MVPs in dealing with dos. If they were? They wouldn't be asking for help.time at all. This program does no more than what it says it will. And you can select what it is alowed to do. It is a very usefull tool. Not a solve all. I don't *want* most of those things deleted most of the time. I'm careful, not paranoid, and all of those things are *helpers* as far as I'm concerned. I use typed URLs, remembered passwords, forms fill-ins, Recent Documents, etc., *all_of_the_time*. The only Cookies on my system are ones I deliberately allowed to be set--and they perform quite useful functions. With proper security settings, there is *no_need* to delete Cookies, Index.dat files, etc., unless some specific problem suggests it. And, you should *not* automatically delete RB and TEMP files without thinking about it for at least a moment, and looking to see what's in there. I am not a fan of idiot-proofing. If people don't know how to manage these things manually, they should *learn*! I believe you when you say you haven't had any problems with the program. But I can easily envision someone else's system having some certain issue that when combined with an automatic or habitual running of your suggested app might cause a problem to become a disaster. This is true of almost *any* utility. Most of the time there's no problem--but they can turn into monsters under the proper conditions. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x |
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Gary S. Terhune wrote:
As for where malware comes from, there's no one source. Some cookies can be a problem, but I use IE6 Advanced cookie handling, and permanently reject 99.99% of all cookies. Even so, the worst malware (aside from out & out viruses) are installed by code that's embedded in the HTML of the pages you visit. You mean the pages YOU visit, Gary. Not me! :-) |
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Hey, only when my wife's not looking!
-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... Gary S. Terhune wrote: As for where malware comes from, there's no one source. Some cookies can be a problem, but I use IE6 Advanced cookie handling, and permanently reject 99.99% of all cookies. Even so, the worst malware (aside from out & out viruses) are installed by code that's embedded in the HTML of the pages you visit. You mean the pages YOU visit, Gary. Not me! :-) |
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