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Old August 29th 06, 12:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]
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Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

I doubt that a Win98 = Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE --
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com

wrote in message ...
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower

"Path"
window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If

that's
what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
doesn't do USB very well.

In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have

to
turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
"Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my

printer(s)".
With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the

"Shared
as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your

PC is
available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification"

tab.
At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug

"\\computername\sharename"
into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it

won't
hurt to try.

Hal

Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back.
I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer
name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked
Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow
others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit
the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did
that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll".
Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times,
had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*".
In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might
consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do
you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete?

Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for
SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I
already have IE 6, good enough.

Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do.

Bill L.



  #12  
Old August 29th 06, 01:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
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Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
I doubt that a Win98 = Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.

Hal

Hal, by now I've moved forward but with no more success.
I used my WIN98Windows ME Upgrade (*ME*, not SE), and
everything that I reported before is still where I am
blocked. Re-read my notes and review where I am blocked, and in the
light of 98 ME (not SE) perhaps you can shine some more light.
And thanks for staying with me.

--
William B. Lurie
  #13  
Old August 29th 06, 09:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 8
Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

I doubt that a Win98 = Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE --
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com

wrote in message ...
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower

"Path"
window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If

that's
what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
doesn't do USB very well.

In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have

to
turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
"Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my

printer(s)".
With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the

"Shared
as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your

PC is
available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification"

tab.
At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug

"\\computername\sharename"
into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it

won't
hurt to try.

Hal

Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back.
I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer
name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked
Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow
others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit
the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did
that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll".
Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times,
had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*".
In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might
consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do
you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete?

Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for
SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I
already have IE 6, good enough.

Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do.

Bill L.



  #14  
Old August 30th 06, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
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Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
I doubt that a Win98 = Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.

Hal

Thanks for staying with me, Hal.
One important question: You're referring to Win 98 Win98SE ....
My software is Win98Win98 *Me*. I do have the full install
disk but hate to go back that far. Does what you say about SE
apply exactly with ME also?

The chipset and drivers that came with this XP machine are
S3 Pro Savage DDR ....and I went to S3's site and found drivers
for 98, all types. Downloaded them, copied them to 98 in a 'temps3'
directory, and then booted up the 98 system. Dbl-clicked on the
downloaded zipped file and it automatically unzipped in that
directory. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is no
'Setup' or 'Install' or any executable file. Perhaps I have to install
it via a Device Manager or equivalent. Could I impose on you for
step-by-step instructions for doing so? And thanks again.

/WBL/

--
William B. Lurie
  #15  
Old August 31st 06, 11:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
Hal Hostetler [MVP-P/I]
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Posts: 1
Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was
replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in
between 98 and XP Home. As to the install question from a couple posts ago,
you need to redirect the install routine to your CDROM; it was looking for
Secur32.dll on your main hard drive ("Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS").

As to the display driver, 'Control
Panel|Display|Settings|Advanced|Adapter|Change' should allow you to installed
the updated driver.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE --
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com

" wrote:

Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
I doubt that a Win98 = Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.

Hal

Thanks for staying with me, Hal.
One important question: You're referring to Win 98 Win98SE ....
My software is Win98Win98 *Me*. I do have the full install
disk but hate to go back that far. Does what you say about SE
apply exactly with ME also?

The chipset and drivers that came with this XP machine are
S3 Pro Savage DDR ....and I went to S3's site and found drivers
for 98, all types. Downloaded them, copied them to 98 in a 'temps3'
directory, and then booted up the 98 system. Dbl-clicked on the
downloaded zipped file and it automatically unzipped in that
directory. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is no
'Setup' or 'Install' or any executable file. Perhaps I have to install
it via a Device Manager or equivalent. Could I impose on you for
step-by-step instructions for doing so? And thanks again.

/WBL/

--
William B. Lurie

  #16  
Old September 1st 06, 03:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.printing
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Posts: 62
Default Prints test page okay BUT.......

Hal Hostetler [MVP-P/I] wrote:
First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was
replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in
between 98 and XP Home. As to the install question from a couple posts ago,
you need to redirect the install routine to your CDROM; it was looking for
Secur32.dll on your main hard drive ("Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS").

As to the display driver, 'Control
Panel|Display|Settings|Advanced|Adapter|Change' should allow you to installed
the updated driver.

Hal

As I posted elsewhere, Hal, the display driver installed
and I have good resolution. My next problem is now in
the hands of the ME group, namely, I tried to install
a modem and now am in a "not enough memory to run MS-DOS prompt",
and I'm working with Mike Maltby there, who feels it is not
a not enough memory problem, but system resources, 64K stacks,
or some such. He's gone to bed already (U.K.) but when I sign
in, early tomorrow, he may have sent me the next step to
investigate.

--
William B. Lurie
 




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