Resources

Yes, that is why the software is not necessary, unless you leave the machine
unattended for long periods.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Brian A." gonefis'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
You may be right. I never checked the resources after installing it.
I installed it.
Didn't really care much for it.
Uninstalled it.
The UPS beeped when power went off and allowed me 20 mins to shut down.
Never left the machine on if I wasn't going to be around.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote in message
...
It may also be a resource hog....at least the older versions were. I don't
currently have an APC brand UPS, so I don't know if the newer versions have
changed.
Last time I used PowerChute, as soon as it loaded, resources dropped from 96% to
75%
free.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Brian A." gonefis'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
APC is American Power Conversion, sellers of UPS's.
Power Chute is there system power monitor which kicks in if power is lost. Can
also
shutdown after set amount of minutes of power loss and then restart when power is
regained, supposedly without loss of data.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
You seem to have a LOT of stuff in there!!! You can (with prudence)
selectively uncheck each of the fluffy ones in there, one by one, to find
out which ones are the real hogs.

Why are you even running some of those in the startup, like (for example) Dr
Watson? I don't know what the APC thing is, and Norton can be a bit of a
hog too.

Let's see if some others can weigh in with more specifics.


DebbieG wrote:
I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources sucked
out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it is:

System Resources: 32%
User Resources: 32%
GDI Resources: 63%

I usually have to reboot in order to get it back up. Usually, I'm running
Outlook, Outlook Express, and maybe a couple of IE windows. I have 256
RAM.

I don't know what to tweak in order to fix this problem. Here's what is
in
my startup:

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\avgcc32.exe /startup - in my
SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\Avgserv9.exe

command: c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup (Windows Critical Update)

command: DAW9532.EXE (3COM network card)

command: c:\mouse\system\em_exec.exe (mouse)

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpztsb04.exe (HP DeskJet Taskbar Utility) - in
my
SysTray

command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

command: loadqm.exe (MSN Queue Manager)

command: C:\NKLINE GLOBAL\MODEM BOOSTER\ModemBtr.exe - in my SysTray

command: c:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE (Norton anti-virus) - in my
SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMON.EXE (Norton Live Update)

command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup (NVIDIA Media
Center Library)
command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
command: nwiz.exe /install (NVIDIA nView Wizard)

command: c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun (Scan Registry)

command: c:\windows\taskmon.exe (Task Monitor)

command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\Display.exe
(APC UPS Status) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Manager)

command: mstask.exe (Scheduling Agent) - in my SysTray

command: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script
Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYBOT - SEARCH & DESTROY\TeaTimer.exe - in my
SysTray

command: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE

command: C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE (Resource Meter) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\DRWATSON.EXE - in my SysTray

Is something listed above sucking up resources? Is there something that I
should uncheck? Is there somewhere else I should be checking? This is
getting so old having to restart.

Thanks for any advice,
Debbie

"Brian A." gonefis'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
You may be right. I never checked the resources after installing it.
I installed it.
Didn't really care much for it.
Uninstalled it.
The UPS beeped when power went off and allowed me 20 mins to shut down.
Never left the machine on if I wasn't going to be around.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I use PowerChute ver 1.4 and the resources only change 2%.
Since my APC UPS is underpowered for my PC, I actually need it as the UPS really
won't support both my Monitor and PC for more than a minute. I bought it mainly
for voltage fluctuations and to add some possible lightning protection.

"Brian A." gonefis'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
You may be right. I never checked the resources after installing it.
I installed it.
Didn't really care much for it.
Uninstalled it.
The UPS beeped when power went off and allowed me 20 mins to shut down.
Never left the machine on if I wasn't going to be around.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I use PowerChute ver 1.4 and the resources only change 2%.
Since my APC UPS is underpowered for my PC, I actually need it as the UPS really
won't support both my Monitor and PC for more than a minute. I bought it mainly
for voltage fluctuations and to add some possible lightning protection.

"DebbieG" wrote:

I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources sucked
out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it is:

System Resources: 32%
User Resources: 32%
GDI Resources: 63%

I usually have to reboot in order to get it back up. Usually, I'm running
Outlook, Outlook Express, and maybe a couple of IE windows. I have 256 RAM.

I don't know what to tweak in order to fix this problem. Here's what is in
my startup:

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\avgcc32.exe /startup - in my SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\Avgserv9.exe

command: c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup (Windows Critical Update)

command: DAW9532.EXE (3COM network card)

command: c:\mouse\system\em_exec.exe (mouse)

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpztsb04.exe (HP DeskJet Taskbar Utility) - in my
SysTray

command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

command: loadqm.exe (MSN Queue Manager)

command: C:\NKLINE GLOBAL\MODEM BOOSTER\ModemBtr.exe - in my SysTray

Probably quite dispensable


command: c:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE (Norton anti-virus) - in my
SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMON.EXE (Norton Live Update)

As others have said, you do not need 2 antivirus programs running in
the background. Norton is much more of a resource hog than AVG so
that is the one I would shut off.



command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup (NVIDIA Media
Center Library)
command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
command: nwiz.exe /install (NVIDIA nView Wizard)

command: c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun (Scan Registry)

command: c:\windows\taskmon.exe (Task Monitor)

command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\Display.exe
(APC UPS Status) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Manager)

Totally dispensable unless you are actively debugging script files,
such as macros for Microsoft Office. Remove it from the startup list
and also rename mdm.exe to mdm.jnk so as to keep it from getting back
into use.


command: mstask.exe (Scheduling Agent) - in my SysTray

command: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script
Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYBOT - SEARCH & DESTROY\TeaTimer.exe - in my
SysTray

command: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE

Totally dispensable.


command: C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE (Resource Meter) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\DRWATSON.EXE - in my SysTray

Totally dispensable.


Is something listed above sucking up resources? Is there something that I
should uncheck? Is there somewhere else I should be checking? This is
getting so old having to restart.

Thanks for any advice,
Debbie

Now here is my standard spiel re startup items and resource usage:

One of the best ways to improve the value of free System Resources is
to reduce the number of background "tools and toys" (a.k.a. crap and
corruption) that gets loaded when the computer starts up. Use Start -
Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab. Compare the list of items
that are loading at startup with the following checklist web sites to
see what can be safely dispensed with:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html - has trojan related
items listed

Note: Please ensure that you fully understand the purpose of a
startup item, how and why it was put into the startup, and the
consequences (if any) of removing it before you make any changes.
Some items are very important for the proper and safe functioning of
your computer, including at least one item that is listed twice.

Disabling an item by unchecking it in MSCONFIG should only be done for
testing purposes or as a "last resort" when no other way of getting
rid of the unwanted item can be found.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

"DebbieG" wrote:

I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources sucked
out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it is:

System Resources: 32%
User Resources: 32%
GDI Resources: 63%

I usually have to reboot in order to get it back up. Usually, I'm running
Outlook, Outlook Express, and maybe a couple of IE windows. I have 256 RAM.

I don't know what to tweak in order to fix this problem. Here's what is in
my startup:

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\avgcc32.exe /startup - in my SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\Avgserv9.exe

command: c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup (Windows Critical Update)

command: DAW9532.EXE (3COM network card)

command: c:\mouse\system\em_exec.exe (mouse)

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpztsb04.exe (HP DeskJet Taskbar Utility) - in my
SysTray

command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

command: loadqm.exe (MSN Queue Manager)

command: C:\NKLINE GLOBAL\MODEM BOOSTER\ModemBtr.exe - in my SysTray

Probably quite dispensable


command: c:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE (Norton anti-virus) - in my
SysTray
command: C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMON.EXE (Norton Live Update)

As others have said, you do not need 2 antivirus programs running in
the background. Norton is much more of a resource hog than AVG so
that is the one I would shut off.



command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup (NVIDIA Media
Center Library)
command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
command: nwiz.exe /install (NVIDIA nView Wizard)

command: c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun (Scan Registry)

command: c:\windows\taskmon.exe (Task Monitor)

command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\Display.exe
(APC UPS Status) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Manager)

Totally dispensable unless you are actively debugging script files,
such as macros for Microsoft Office. Remove it from the startup list
and also rename mdm.exe to mdm.jnk so as to keep it from getting back
into use.


command: mstask.exe (Scheduling Agent) - in my SysTray

command: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script
Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg

command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYBOT - SEARCH & DESTROY\TeaTimer.exe - in my
SysTray

command: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE

Totally dispensable.


command: C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE (Resource Meter) - in my SysTray

command: C:\WINDOWS\DRWATSON.EXE - in my SysTray

Totally dispensable.


Is something listed above sucking up resources? Is there something that I
should uncheck? Is there somewhere else I should be checking? This is
getting so old having to restart.

Thanks for any advice,
Debbie

Now here is my standard spiel re startup items and resource usage:

One of the best ways to improve the value of free System Resources is
to reduce the number of background "tools and toys" (a.k.a. crap and
corruption) that gets loaded when the computer starts up. Use Start -
Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab. Compare the list of items
that are loading at startup with the following checklist web sites to
see what can be safely dispensed with:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html - has trojan related
items listed

Note: Please ensure that you fully understand the purpose of a
startup item, how and why it was put into the startup, and the
consequences (if any) of removing it before you make any changes.
Some items are very important for the proper and safe functioning of
your computer, including at least one item that is listed twice.

Disabling an item by unchecking it in MSCONFIG should only be done for
testing purposes or as a "last resort" when no other way of getting
rid of the unwanted item can be found.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

DebbieG wrote:
I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources
sucked out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it
is:

System Resources: 32%
User Resources: 32%
GDI Resources: 63%

Despite having numerous unnecessary things running your resources are
not bad. In fact, they are almost the same as mine are at the moment.


--?
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____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
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Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

DebbieG wrote:
I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources
sucked out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it
is:

System Resources: 32%
User Resources: 32%
GDI Resources: 63%

Despite having numerous unnecessary things running your resources are
not bad. In fact, they are almost the same as mine are at the moment.


--�
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.05...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

I've turned if off also.

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...
|
| FACE wrote in message
news | Has anyone noted the continuous running of MDM.exe (Machine Debug
Manager)?
| That .exe is not on my win98 SE, which is not to say that it is not a
valid
| .exe but.......
|
| Yes. I turned it off years ago.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321410/EN-US/
|
|

I've turned if off also.

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...
|
| FACE wrote in message
news | Has anyone noted the continuous running of MDM.exe (Machine Debug
Manager)?
| That .exe is not on my win98 SE, which is not to say that it is not a
valid
| .exe but.......
|
| Yes. I turned it off years ago.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321410/EN-US/
|
|

Wow, there were a lot of fff___.tmp files.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| I think you've done a good, good start, (but I like DrWatson). I don't
| know what a bunch of those are. I do think there is a chance SpyBot is
| hoggy. Can you easily disable it to see?
|
| | command: mstask.exe (Scheduling Agent) - in my SysTray
|
| Do you really use that, the Task Scheduler? (Don't worry about "Tune-up
| Application Start-- Walign", in there. And run Scandisk/Defrag on your
| own.) If not, use it's menu to turn off it's start at boot. (You may
| still use it occasionally by "START, Programs, Accessories, System
| Tools, Scheduled Tasks", if you ever have a need to.). HOWEVER, it will
| put itself back into the Startup Group, unless you remove...
|
| | command: c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup (Windows Critical
| Update)
|
| ...the "MS Critical Update Notification Tool". It was accessing my HDD
| every five minutes. It can be uninstalled in "Control Panel, Add/Remove
| Programs". Then, occasionally, "START, Windows Update" on your own.
|
| | command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Manager)
|
| ......Quote of Glee.......
| You find that you are accumulating a lot of temporary files in your
| Windows directory that start with fff and have a .tmp extension, similar
| to this:
|
| fff137e3_{3BC6A120-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp
| fff137e3_{3BC6A121-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp
|
| These files are created by a bug in certain versions of MDM.EXE....two
| every time it is loaded.
| See he
| OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with 'fff' Appear in Windows Folder"
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
|
| OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410
|
| MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
| Debugger.
| The fix is to prevent it from loading, by renaming the file, and
| removing its reference in the startup group.
|
| Rename MDM.EXE to MDM.EX_ or MDM.BAD, or something like that.
| Look for any reference to MDM.EXE in the Startup folders:
| C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp
| C:\Windows\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp
| and in the registry run key:
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
| and delete it.
|
| Then delete all those fff___.tmp files.
| Note that if you reinstall any of the programs that added MDM.EXE, you
| may get it loaded back, and will have to disable it again.
|
| ...glen
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| ......End....of quote.......
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "DebbieG" wrote in message
| ...
| | OK, I should have done this before bothering this group ... I found a
| cool
| | website (http://answersthatwork.com/) that explains almost everything
| that
| | was on my list. I removed 6 from my startup:
| |
| | loadqm.exe
| | NvMcTray.dll
| | taskmon.exe
| | TeaTimer.exe
| | OSA9.exe
| | DRWATSON.EXE
| |
| | I could remove the Resource Meter because it takes up resources also,
| but
| | I've gotten to where I keep an eye on it to see if I need to reboot.
| |
| | We'll see if removing these improves my performance.
| |
| | I still would like to know if there is some other tweaking I could do.
| |
| | Thanks,
| | Debbie
| |
| |
| | "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| | ...
| | | You seem to have a LOT of stuff in there!!! You can (with
| prudence)
| | | selectively uncheck each of the fluffy ones in there, one by one, to
| find
| | | out which ones are the real hogs.
| | |
| | | Why are you even running some of those in the startup, like (for
| example)
| | Dr
| | | Watson? I don't know what the APC thing is, and Norton can be a
| bit of a
| | | hog too.
| | |
| | | Let's see if some others can weigh in with more specifics.
| | |
| | |
| | | DebbieG wrote:
| | | I am having big problems with my Win 98 SE PC having the resources
| | sucked
| | | out of it. Right now, according to the Resource Meter, it is:
| | |
| | | System Resources: 32%
| | | User Resources: 32%
| | | GDI Resources: 63%
| | |
| | | I usually have to reboot in order to get it back up. Usually, I'm
| | running
| | | Outlook, Outlook Express, and maybe a couple of IE windows. I
| have 256
| | | RAM.
| | |
| | | I don't know what to tweak in order to fix this problem. Here's
| what is
| | in
| | | my startup:
| | |
| | | command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRISOFT\AVG6\avgcc32.exe /startup - in
| my
| | SysTray
| | | command: C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\Avgserv9.exe
| | |
| | | command: c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup (Windows Critical
| | Update)
| | |
| | | command: DAW9532.EXE (3COM network card)
| | |
| | | command: c:\mouse\system\em_exec.exe (mouse)
| | |
| | | command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpztsb04.exe (HP DeskJet Taskbar
| Utility) -
| | in my
| | | SysTray
| | |
| | | command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
| | | command: Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
| | |
| | | command: loadqm.exe (MSN Queue Manager)
| | |
| | | command: C:\NKLINE GLOBAL\MODEM BOOSTER\ModemBtr.exe - in my
| SysTray
| | |
| | | command: c:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE (Norton anti-virus) -
| in my
| | | SysTray
| | | command: C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMON.EXE (Norton Live Update)
| | |
| | | command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
| (NVIDIA
| | Media
| | | Center Library)
| | | command: RUNDLL32.EXE c:\windows\SYSTEM\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
| | | command: nwiz.exe /install (NVIDIA nView Wizard)
| | |
| | | command: c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun (Scan Registry)
| | |
| | | command: c:\windows\taskmon.exe (Task Monitor)
| | |
| | | command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal
| | Edition\mainserv.exe
| | | command: C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal
| | Edition\Display.exe
| | | (APC UPS Status) - in my SysTray
| | |
| | | command: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MDM.EXE (Machine Debug Manager)
| | |
| | | command: mstask.exe (Scheduling Agent) - in my SysTray
| | |
| | | command: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script
| | | Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg
| | |
| | | command: C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYBOT - SEARCH & DESTROY\TeaTimer.exe -
| in my
| | | SysTray
| | |
| | | command: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
| | |
| | | command: C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE (Resource Meter) - in my SysTray
| | |
| | | command: C:\WINDOWS\DRWATSON.EXE - in my SysTray
| | |
| | | Is something listed above sucking up resources? Is there
| something that
| | I
| | | should uncheck? Is there somewhere else I should be checking?
| This is
| | | getting so old having to restart.
| | |
| | | Thanks for any advice,
| | | Debbie
| |
|
|