GA-7zx install problems

Then I get all kinds of errors after that including: SUWIN GPF at
setupx.dll, "serious error, cannot write to c:", "emm386 found error,
halted system".

I had a similar problem with random installation errors a few years ago.
Possibly my worst weekend ever, with over 26 attempts to reinstall :-}

Download and run Memtest86 (its a self booting memory test app) - leave
it running for a while - overnight if possible - but if the memory is
bad you`ll probably know within 10 minutes. It sounds suspiciously like
a memory error to me.

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:18:46 +0000 (UTC) If God exists he'll get
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Colin Wilson wrote in
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Then I get all kinds of errors after that including: SUWIN GPF at
setupx.dll, "serious error, cannot write to c:", "emm386 found error,
halted system".

I had a similar problem with random installation errors a few years
ago.
Possibly my worst weekend ever, with over 26 attempts to reinstall :-}

Thanks for the answer, but I already did this before posting-no errors
at least for the 15 minutes I ran it.


Download and run Memtest86 (its a self booting memory test app) -
leave
it running for a while - overnight if possible - but if the memory is
bad you`ll probably know within 10 minutes. It sounds suspiciously
like
a memory error to me.


Software memory testers are useless.

If you have two sticks of ram take one out and try the one left in on
it's own and then in each slot.

If no good then do the same with the other stick.
HTH



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Many things can interfere with a setup. This is why you may not find a
difinitive answer. Many unknowns are not provided for someone to be exact.

These things can all cause the kind of error message your received:
• There are incorrect basic input/output system (BIOS) settings for a
built-in peripheral device on your motherboard (for example, cache settings,
CPU timing, hard disks, and so on).
• Your computer has bad or mismatched random access memory (RAM) or cache
(for example, if you are using EDO and non-EDO RAM, or you are using
different RAM speeds).
• The motherboard in your computer is not working properly.
• Hard Drive not set to double buffer.

Simplify your install by formating C:drive. Make afolder on the formated
drive and Copy your cab files over to this follder. Use startup disk and
launch setup from this new folder.

To do this with your current setup:
Be sure your Hard Drive jumper settings are Master(to be installed) &
slave(setup files). If you have 2 sticks of RAM in the computer, install
with one. 128MB is plenty. Add 2nd stick after setup. Start system with a
win98 startup disk that includes format.com on it. This file can be copyied
onto startup disk from a running win98 computer
(C:\Windows\Command\format.com). Start without CDrom support. Type 'e:'
press enter. type 'dir /p' press enter. Should see all folders & files on
your slave drive. type 'cd windows\options\cabs' press enter You should
be able to verify your Windows cab files on E drive. Type 'a:' press
enter. Type in 'format C:' press enter. After format type in 'mkdir win98'
press enter. Type in copy 'C:\windows\options\cabs\*.* c:\win98\' press
enter. Type in 'C:' press enter. Type in 'cd win98' press enter. Type in
'dir /p' press enter. You should see all setup files on C: Shut off
computer. Disconnect your slave drive. Start computer with startup disk (no
cdrom support). At command prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' press enter. At
command prompt, type in 'C:' press enter. Type in 'cd win98' press enter.
Type in 'setup' press enter.

I really do NOT want to start taking the machine apart to install
win98se-would rather avoid taking out cards to make the install and will
just use some other OS.Is there another version of windows that is not
so problematical with this machine?

Anything you use can be problematic if you don't want to do the work to set
it right. You could install Windows XP from a CDrom. It may take some of
the issues out of installing an OS to a drive.

Good Luck


"herman" wrote in message
...

Been searching on this problem, nothing really on target found. Lots of
suggestions out there but no one seems to know the definitive answer to
why it is so hard to get win98se to install on this box. I have x-posted
because I have yet to find a definitive answer to this problem.

Gigabyte ZA-7zx Rev. 1.01. AMD Duron 800 MHZ two hds: 14GB and 7GB-same
channel

256 MB Ram

Bios American Megatrends 1/2001

I got this box 2nd hand. I have the MB manual (i think-almost impossible
to tell with from the gigabyte website).

Trying to install Win98SE from Slave drive cab files, taken from another
working system. Using same system win98 boot disk I sysed a: c: to put
the boot files onto the C: install drive (primary boot). Can I install
by booting from w98 boot diskette? Or must I boot from c: drive?

I also have two cd-roms that work with dos drivers, but no other drivers
installed for them, a modem card (cannot find the name). Matrox video
installed. I think onboard sound.

I keep getting to the install screen and the files are supposedly loaded
to the C: drive (when exercising setup from the D drive).

Then I get all kinds of errors after that including: SUWIN GPF at
setupx.dll, "serious error, cannot write to c:", "emm386 found error,
halted system".

I really do NOT want to start taking the machine apart to install
win98se-would rather avoid taking out cards to make the install and will
just use some other OS. Is there another version of windows that is not
so problematical with this machine?

I have done nothing with the bios and do not even know if the settings
are factory default.

Anyone?

No disrespect intended, but why would memory be bad if other things run
ok?

Bad memory is just one of those b*stard intermittent random error
generating things that sounded a little like your problem. It may well
not be the problem.

Have you tried booting up from something like a Knoppix CD, and does
that work ok ?

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:11:57 +0000 (UTC) If God exists he'll get
herman for writing this :

thanks but I only have one stick-256MB and everything else I've run seem
stable, so why do u think memory is bad??

Yes.

Or it's edge connectors need cleaning.You can use some clean
alcohol(Vodka) and tissue to do this.Also try the stick in a different
slot.

You can also set the BIOS Ram parameters to their lowest speed and
least aggressive settings.



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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:11:23 +0000 (UTC) If God exists he'll get
herman for writing this :

I am talking to the gigabyte tech people. They tell me that the setup
files I have may be from a OEM win98se release that tries to install
it's own drivers which are incompatible with the drivers on the system.

Bull****.


New question, is there an install switch/switches that prevents setup
from installing such drivers AND, how do I know what drivers the box is
currently using, since I got the box second hand? Will hwinfo give this
information? Should I try to install latest gigabyte drivers?

They are also telling me I cannot have the hdrives on the secondary ide
channel, which they are working ok on now. I must move them to channel
one primary. Never heard of this before?

See above.
Some tech ****** on the other end of the phone who knows bugger
all(Scheisse alles).

Get/Borrow another ram stick.



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Type in SETUP /? to see the switches. Yes, I do believe there is one just
for that, but I can't say for certain. The /nh switch is the one I'm
thinking of. "This switch bypasses running the Hwinfo.exe program at 0
percent files and RunOnce" Should work fine with a plain-vanilla Win98 OEM
CD. Not sure where you'd run into the demand to install drivers, but I'd
want to copy all of the drivers installation files you're going to need to
the HD from a Startup floppy boot, ahead of time. Create a folder called
drivers, then sub-folders for each set, using the Startup disk's CD drivers
to get the job done. You want to be able to get to them easily when the time
comes. My guess (haven't tried it) is that you would want to boot
immediately into Safe Mode to run the installers that come as EXE files.

Description of the Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup Switches
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;186111

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"herman" wrote in message
...
I am talking to the gigabyte tech people. They tell me that the setup
files I have may be from a OEM win98se release that tries to install
it's own drivers which are incompatible with the drivers on the system.

New question, is there an install switch/switches that prevents setup
from installing such drivers AND, how do I know what drivers the box is
currently using, since I got the box second hand? Will hwinfo give this
information? Should I try to install latest gigabyte drivers?

They are also telling me I cannot have the hdrives on the secondary ide
channel, which they are working ok on now. I must move them to channel
one primary. Never heard of this before?


herman wrote in :


Been searching on this problem, nothing really on target found. Lots
of suggestions out there but no one seems to know the definitive
answer to why it is so hard to get win98se to install on this box. I
have x-posted because I have yet to find a definitive answer to this
problem.

Gigabyte ZA-7zx Rev. 1.01. AMD Duron 800 MHZ two hds: 14GB and
7GB-same channel

256 MB Ram

Bios American Megatrends 1/2001

I got this box 2nd hand. I have the MB manual (i think-almost
impossible to tell with from the gigabyte website).

Trying to install Win98SE from Slave drive cab files, taken from
another working system. Using same system win98 boot disk I sysed a:
c: to put the boot files onto the C: install drive (primary boot). Can
I install by booting from w98 boot diskette? Or must I boot from c:
drive?

I also have two cd-roms that work with dos drivers, but no other
drivers installed for them, a modem card (cannot find the name).
Matrox video installed. I think onboard sound.

I keep getting to the install screen and the files are supposedly
loaded to the C: drive (when exercising setup from the D drive).

Then I get all kinds of errors after that including: SUWIN GPF at
setupx.dll, "serious error, cannot write to c:", "emm386 found error,
halted system".

I really do NOT want to start taking the machine apart to install
win98se-would rather avoid taking out cards to make the install and
will just use some other OS. Is there another version of windows that
is not so problematical with this machine?

I have done nothing with the bios and do not even know if the settings
are factory default.

Anyone?

I'd recommend a pencil eraser (a clean one) instead of alcohol, vodka or
otherwise.

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MS MVP Shell/User

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:11:57 +0000 (UTC) If God exists he'll get
herman for writing this :

thanks but I only have one stick-256MB and everything else I've run seem
stable, so why do u think memory is bad??

Yes.

Or it's edge connectors need cleaning.You can use some clean
alcohol(Vodka) and tissue to do this.Also try the stick in a different
slot.

You can also set the BIOS Ram parameters to their lowest speed and
least aggressive settings.



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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:20:13 -0700 If God exists he'll get "Gary S.
Terhune" for writing this :

I'd recommend a pencil eraser (a clean one) instead of alcohol, vodka or
otherwise.

Yup.Good call.Forgot that trick



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Hey, why waste good vodka? Or even bad vodka?

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"Shep©" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:20:13 -0700 If God exists he'll get "Gary S.
Terhune" for writing this :

I'd recommend a pencil eraser (a clean one) instead of alcohol, vodka or
otherwise.

Yup.Good call.Forgot that trick



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