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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week
ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
pjhjones wrote: I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. Since you see familar with the innards of the computer, shut it down and remove and reseat the memory sticks several times. Bad memory or poor contact by the memory stick contacts can cause many similar problems. This is easy to do and may be the problem. There are many other reasons, but try this first. While you're in there, clean out all the dust bunnies etc, esp around the cpu heatsink/fan area. The network problem is likely different. Do you have any exclamation marks in Device Manager? While you're waiting for more answers, you might want to scan your machine for malware/spyware. Try the following two free programs. No, they do not charge you anything to clean what they find. They are excellent products. MalWareByte's AntiMalware (MBAM) SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) Dl,install, update and then run them one at a time. Keep running one until it finds no more and then try the other one. It usually helps if you delete your tmp files and your tempory internet files and internet cookies before running them. You get to choose which items you want them to fix. |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
pjhjones wrote:
I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. pjhjones: Such intermitent problems are often caused by some hardware component. Try reseating everything in the case, make sure all fans and heat sinks are functional and run a RAM test like Memtest86. http://www.memtest86.com/download.html HTH&GL John -- \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - 40.4913ºN,79.904ºW - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6 |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
I will check the memory sticks.
I do not have any exclamation marks in the device manager. This computeris on GE's network so I do not believe that I have any mal/spyware. Besides even if I wanted to run some free programs I wouldn't have the privlages to download them anyways. "Buffalo" wrote: pjhjones wrote: I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. Since you see familar with the innards of the computer, shut it down and remove and reseat the memory sticks several times. Bad memory or poor contact by the memory stick contacts can cause many similar problems. This is easy to do and may be the problem. There are many other reasons, but try this first. While you're in there, clean out all the dust bunnies etc, esp around the cpu heatsink/fan area. The network problem is likely different. Do you have any exclamation marks in Device Manager? While you're waiting for more answers, you might want to scan your machine for malware/spyware. Try the following two free programs. No, they do not charge you anything to clean what they find. They are excellent products. MalWareByte's AntiMalware (MBAM) SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) Dl,install, update and then run them one at a time. Keep running one until it finds no more and then try the other one. It usually helps if you delete your tmp files and your tempory internet files and internet cookies before running them. You get to choose which items you want them to fix. |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
"pjhjones" wrote in message
... I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. Both symptoms suggest a failing power supply unit. These are easy to replace and quite cheap (which is perhaps why they do not last for ever. I needed to replace 3 in the last 25 years (i.e. 7 or 8 PCs.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
pjhjones wrote: I will check the memory sticks. I do not have any exclamation marks in the device manager. This computeris on GE's network so I do not believe that I have any mal/spyware. Besides even if I wanted to run some free programs I wouldn't have the privlages to download them anyways. "Buffalo" wrote: Sounds good. I would still try removing and reseating the memory sticks. Good Luck and I hope you get some good answers. Buffalo |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
Spontaneous restarts most often indicate a failing power supply unit.
-- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "pjhjones" wrote in message ... I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
pjhjones wrote:
This computer is on GE's network so I do not believe that I have any mal/spyware. Besides even if I wanted to run some free programs I wouldn't have the privlages to download them anyways. I can't believe that a fortune 50 company would still be running win-98 on any of their internal PC's. And please explain how your IT people configured your win-98 system such that you don't have the "privileges" to run or install certain software. |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
Both symptoms suggest a failing power supply unit. These yeah do you now have 2 harddisks in that computer? it is possible that your powersupplyunit isn't strong enough to support both... remove the old disk.... |
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WIN98 SE Shutting down for no reason
I have back probed the power supply and believe that all my voltages are
acceptable. 5.02V 4.97V 11.90V -12.30V -5.02V All fans are running and the temp inside the cabinet is not hot at all. Even when I leave the door open I still have these problems. It appears to only reboot when I am not using it. If I am working it may lock up on me, but when I walk away for about 15-20 minutes and come back I might find that it has shut down. (about 3 times today) "glee" wrote: Spontaneous restarts most often indicate a failing power supply unit. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "pjhjones" wrote in message ... I am running a WIN98 SE machine with a new hard drive installed about a week ago. For some reason every so often 15-20 minutes it automatically reboots on me. No error message or anything, but when it reboots it acts like it was just shut off and runs a scan disk. It is plugged in properly and is not just losing power. Also I am connected to a local network and every so often it tells me that it has lost its network connection. I have to actually roboot to reconnect. When I try and log off it acts like it is trying to log back on. Tries to connect to the network and tells me that it can't. I reboot and can log on just fine. My network cable is plugged in securly. |
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