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Old September 23rd 14, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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What's the name of the OS emulator microsoft has? Something with 2007 in
its' name. Not Oracle's VM ware but MS.

Bill


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Old September 24th 14, 01:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co
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Default MS emulator

Bill Cunningham wrote:
What's the name of the OS emulator microsoft has? Something with 2007
in its' name. Not Oracle's VM ware but MS.

Bill


Virtual PC? (there were several versions)


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Old September 24th 14, 03:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Bill in Co wrote:

Bill Cunningham wrote:
What's the name of the OS emulator microsoft has? Something with 2007
in its' name. Not Oracle's VM ware but MS.


Virtual PC? (there were several versions)


Almost certainly the one Bill wanted, but there's also Microsoft Device
Emulator (WinCE and Windows Mobile):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.90).aspx

....not to mention various things from Microsoft Research.

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Old September 24th 14, 08:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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Default MS emulator


"Auric__" wrote in message
16...

Almost certainly the one Bill wanted, but there's also Microsoft Device
Emulator (WinCE and Windows Mobile):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.90).aspx

...not to mention various things from Microsoft Research.


This might have been virtual PC. It's 2007 I know that. It's not devices
I want to emulate, as I don't think that's needed for msdos-6.2x or win98se.

Bill


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Old September 25th 14, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co
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Default MS emulator

Bill Cunningham wrote:
"Auric__" wrote in message
16...

Almost certainly the one Bill wanted, but there's also Microsoft Device
Emulator (WinCE and Windows Mobile):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.90).aspx

...not to mention various things from Microsoft Research.


This might have been virtual PC. It's 2007 I know that. It's not
devices
I want to emulate, as I don't think that's needed for msdos-6.2x or
win98se.

Bill


There indeed was a Virtual PC 2007. (I once tried a much older version,
and decided to stick with that at the time and not go to the newer 2007
version, so that's why I still recall this).


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Old September 27th 14, 07:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Paul[_3_]
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Default MS emulator

Bill Cunningham wrote:
"Auric__" wrote in message
16...

Almost certainly the one Bill wanted, but there's also Microsoft Device
Emulator (WinCE and Windows Mobile):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.90).aspx

...not to mention various things from Microsoft Research.


This might have been virtual PC. It's 2007 I know that. It's not devices
I want to emulate, as I don't think that's needed for msdos-6.2x or win98se.

Bill



VPC2007 Use with WinXP (my current VM environment)
The last patch for it, made startup really slow.

Windows Virtual PC Use with Windows 7 (used for WinXP Mode, but also
can be used like VPC2007 - this is a successor to
VPC2007 with Terminal Services support for rootless
program operation).

Hyper-V Use with Windows 8. Requires Extended Page Tables
hardware support on Windows 8. One of the server OSes,
has a different hardware requirement (and gaming video
cards would not work as well on the server-installed
Hyper-V). Note that the "host" OS runs as a "guest" under
Hyper-V (Hyper-V is the "boss" of the machine), and the
virtual machine architecture is different. I cannot use
this on my current machine, because there is no SLAT
(second level address table)/EPT (extended page table)
support.

The program versions are OS locked, meaning you can't just grab a copy
of VPC2007 and run it on Windows 8. Even though you would think it would
work, the program is likely blacklisted by the OS blacklist capability.
Same goes with running Windows Virtual PC on Windows 8.

VirtualBos from Oracle/Sun, runs on everything, but has bugs with
respect to some OSes. Running Win2K guest on VirtualBox, would result in
one core of your CPU being railed at 100% all the time. Oracle/Sun
seem incapable of fixing this, and I suspect they've tried to in the
past. They probably have no interest in fixing it now.

Something like VPC2007, runs stuff back to DOS, supports only one core, and
has a harder time with newer OSes (PulseAudio on Linux won't work well
there, and Linux timer support and realtime aspects of the environment
have a few deficiencies). Microsoft made sure that Windows worked
well on VPC2007, and the SoundBlaster emulation is "just compatible
enough" to keep Windows happy.

If you want to drag an OS, kicking and screaming, into VPC2007,
you can try this. I managed to drag WinXP inside WinXP with this
tool, the OS booted (the tool changes the HAL to ACPI Uniprocessor
for you), but obviously activation caused an issue. So you can use
this for P2V attempts if you want. The usual 137GB limits exist.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/ee656415

I have a computer now, that can run Hyper-V. But the weird part is,
I haven't so far. The thing is, if I "invest" in Hyper-V machines,
I have no backup plan. No other machine or setup can run them,
so they're "orphans" and can only run on the one computer.
So the attraction just doesn't seem to be there. The VirtualBox
machines on the other hand, I have some options.

The above table is just the ones I've researched. For example, I
don't know what runs on Vista. I have a Win98SE guest machine in VPC2007,
so I do actually use that on occasion. It has an ancient copy of
Acrobat Distiller I bought in it, and that's about the only reason
for using that OS image.

Paul
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Old September 28th 14, 05:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Windows Virtual PC

"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
...
What's the name of the OS emulator microsoft has? Something with 2007
in its' name. Not Oracle's VM ware but MS.
Bill


The one I Use Windows Virtual PC

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=3702

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Old September 28th 14, 09:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Hot-Text
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Default Microsoft Family of OS's run on virtual PC 2007 Yes a XP Sp3 Too!

"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
...

"Auric__" wrote in message
16...

Almost certainly the one Bill wanted, but there's also Microsoft Device
Emulator (WinCE and Windows Mobile):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.90).aspx

...not to mention various things from Microsoft Research.


This might have been virtual PC. It's 2007 I know that. It's not
devices I want to emulate, as I don't think that's needed for msdos-6.2x
or win98se.

Bill


And

Windows 3.0 to 11
ME CE 2000 sp4
XP Visa

Well Hell All The
Microsoft Family of OS's
If you have the Key/s

I run a Windows 3.0
No Key's Needed
To run on virtual PC

I Run a Windows 98 and 2000 sp4
I have a set of Key's

 




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