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Old January 10th 14, 02:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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I've held on to Win98 for years, and always loved it. I've added
everything possible such as Kernal-Ex, to keep it going, and struggled
to cope with incompatible software that requires newer versions of
Windows, particularly browsers.

The time has come to retire Win98, and allow Microsoft to win their
efforts to obsolete the older versions of Windows. But Microsoft really
is NOT going to win. In fact in my case, THEY LOSE. From the moment I
first put my hands on XP, I hated their so called NT based OSs. I
tried, really tried to adapt to XP, and always hated it no matter how
hard I forced myself to use it. By that time they had created their
worst failure, Vista, and were on their way to more bloated OSs, which I
would not touch if they gave me a free computer. Just seeing a Windows
8 computer on the shelves at a store makes me nauseous. All I see on
those screens are ugly boxes with links to commercial companies I would
not even go near, such as Netflix. They cant even offer decent looking
icons anymore.

Years ago, I knew thart the time would come when I could no longer use
Win98. It appears this time has come. Mainly due to the fact that there
is no longer a browser that is made for W98 that is compatible with most
present websites. I coped with occasional websites which would not
properly load in past years, but it now seems that 4 out of 5 sites are
no longer loading properly, using Firefox 3.6.x, and worse using other
browsers that work on W98. Of course I place blame on Mozilla for not
making their newer versions of Firefox compatible with W98.

The PC computer was originally supposed to be *THE* hardware for any OS,
but Microsoft took over and made the PC the Microsoft Computer. Their
only competitor is Linux, and there is really no competition involved,
since Linux has no actual support, and there are so many different
variations of Linux that only a computer geek can begin to use it, and
even then, it wont run popular software intended for Windows witout
adding yet more software.

The bottom line is this. Either kiss Microsoft's ass, or toss your PC
in the nearest garbage can. Well, I have given this considerable
thought, and decided that I will never give Microsoft another cent.
Particularly when I hate every OS they have made since Win98. I can
still continue to use WIN98 for my personal uses, but in order to go on
the internet, I have decided to spend some money and buy a Macintosh
computer. I never thought that I'd make that switch, and being elderly,
I really hate having to relearn to use a completely different computer
system, yet, there really is no other option.

I say this with much sadness, because I really liked Win98, and still
do. It's the only decent OS made by Microsoft, and they did their best
to destroy it. I guess 2014 will be the year when all of my past 25+
years of PC computer learning and use goes down the ****ter, and I
switch to Macintosh. In some ways, I wish I had begun my computer
learning with the Mac, because I would not have to start all over now.
But that's life, particularly when Misrosoft greed is involved, and they
create one of the wealthiest monopolies on earth, while creating
absolute ****.



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Old January 10th 14, 07:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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wrote:
I've held on to Win98 for years, and always loved it. I've added
everything possible such as Kernal-Ex, to keep it going, and struggled
to cope with incompatible software that requires newer versions of
Windows, particularly browsers.

The time has come to retire Win98, and allow Microsoft to win their
efforts to obsolete the older versions of Windows. But Microsoft really
is NOT going to win. In fact in my case, THEY LOSE. From the moment
I first put my hands on XP, I hated their so called NT based OSs. I
tried, really tried to adapt to XP, and always hated it no matter how
hard I forced myself to use it.


But with just a little work, you can make the WinXP experience pretty
similar to that of W98. I don't see the big deal here AFTER you have made
some "adjustments" to XP and the XP interface. But I've stopped here at XP,
and have no interest in Win 7, 8, or 9. :-) I agree with you that W98SE
has faded into the twilight for some of the reasons you've mentioned. But
at least I don't have to worry about having good USB and SATA capability,
blue screens, and ever running out of resources. And still being able to
find good software that runs on it.


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Old January 10th 14, 11:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 06:10:33 -0000, Bill in Co
wrote:

wrote:
I've held on to Win98 for years, and always loved it. I've added
everything possible such as Kernal-Ex, to keep it going, and struggled
to cope with incompatible software that requires newer versions of
Windows, particularly browsers.

The time has come to retire Win98, and allow Microsoft to win their
efforts to obsolete the older versions of Windows. But Microsoft really
is NOT going to win. In fact in my case, THEY LOSE. From the moment
I first put my hands on XP, I hated their so called NT based OSs. I
tried, really tried to adapt to XP, and always hated it no matter how
hard I forced myself to use it.


But with just a little work, you can make the WinXP experience pretty
similar to that of W98. I don't see the big deal here AFTER you have
made
some "adjustments" to XP and the XP interface. But I've stopped here at
XP,
and have no interest in Win 7, 8, or 9. :-) I agree with you that
W98SE
has faded into the twilight for some of the reasons you've mentioned.
But
at least I don't have to worry about having good USB and SATA capability,
blue screens, and ever running out of resources. And still being able to
find good software that runs on it.


I tried loading w98 on an XP laptop yesterday - got blue screen during
"initialising drivers", so somethings got broken (it maybe that w98
doesn't know about the widescreen, or USB mouse)


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Old January 10th 14, 07:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 06:10:33 -0000, Bill in Co
wrote:

wrote:
I've held on to Win98 for years, and always loved it. I've added
everything possible such as Kernal-Ex, to keep it going, and struggled
to cope with incompatible software that requires newer versions of
Windows, particularly browsers.

The time has come to retire Win98, and allow Microsoft to win their
efforts to obsolete the older versions of Windows. But Microsoft really
is NOT going to win. In fact in my case, THEY LOSE. From the moment
I first put my hands on XP, I hated their so called NT based OSs. I
tried, really tried to adapt to XP, and always hated it no matter how
hard I forced myself to use it.


But with just a little work, you can make the WinXP experience pretty
similar to that of W98. I don't see the big deal here AFTER you have
made
some "adjustments" to XP and the XP interface. But I've stopped here at
XP, and have no interest in Win 7, 8, or 9. :-) I agree with you that
W98SE
has faded into the twilight for some of the reasons you've mentioned.
But at least I don't have to worry about having good USB and SATA
capability,
blue screens, and ever running out of resources. And still being able to
find good software that runs on it.


I tried loading w98 on an XP laptop yesterday - got blue screen during
"initialising drivers", so somethings got broken (it maybe that w98
doesn't know about the widescreen, or USB mouse)


I think I tried this once too, and got similar results. Then I asked myself
why was I even doing it, since some of the software I now have requires XP,
and XP has much better support for USB and SATA, etc. :-)


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Old January 11th 14, 04:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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While unnecessarily full-quoting, Bill in Co wrote:

and XP has much better support for USB and SATA, etc. :-)


No, XP does not have "much better" support for SATA.

For USB - maybe. Give win-98 the Maximus Decim USB patch, and you bring
it much closer to XP in terms of support for storage devices.

But for SATA, no.

Compatibility with SATA comes from the SATA controller driver, for which
there is full support for Win-98 for at least the first generation
SATA-I controllers.

On this win-98 system that I'm using right now to type this reply, I
have two SATA drives (750 gb and 1.5 TB) running in SATA (not
IDE-emulated) mode. Both formatted as FAT32. Both drives formatted as
a single volume.

Win-98 is actually superior to XP when it comes to SATA compability. I
can install win-98 from scratch on a SATA drive running in SATA mode -
something you can't do with XP. With XP, SATA drives must be running in
IDE-emulation mode. And once you've installed XP, good luck switching
the drive to native SATA mode and getting XP to boot properly.

So stop spreading lies about win-98 not being compatible with SATA
drives.
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Old January 11th 14, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Bill in Co wrote:

But with just a little work, you can make the WinXP experience
pretty similar to that of W98.


I've set up a few systems with XP-pro running on a FAT-32 formatted hard
drive, so that I can dual-boot into either DOS 7.1 or XP. One of those
systems is a HP mini-note netbook (where there wasn't enough driver
support to install win-98 - I tried). I don't use the netbook that
much, but I've set it up with the classic look to make it look and act
as much as win-98 as possible.

But at least I don't have to worry about having good USB and SATA
capability, blue screens, and ever running out of resources.


Yea - funny how running win-98 I don't worry about those things either.
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Old January 11th 14, 04:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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While unnecessarily full-quoting, Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:

I tried loading w98 on an XP laptop yesterday - got blue screen
during "initialising drivers", so somethings got broken (it maybe
that w98 doesn't know about the widescreen, or USB mouse)


You don't start installing win-98 on a given machine until or unless you
have tracked down and obtained all available drivers for the various
hardware components (video, motherboard / chipset, southbridge, audio,
network, wifi, etc).

The only laptops that you will be able to run win-98 with sufficient
driver support are ones that were sold new no later than the fall of
2005 or spring of 2006.

I think the best example of a laptop that had *almost* full driver
support for win-98 was the Dell Inspiron 600m. It was released in
mid-2003 but was still being sold new well into 2005. But there were no
wifi drivers for win-98. That's going to be the main problem for pretty
much any laptop you can find.
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Old January 12th 14, 10:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:28:13 +0100, Axel Berger
wrote:

You have made a decision about popular OSs, why not do the same about
"popular" software? If and when the time comes for me - up to now I
don't tough a running system, but I may be forced - it will certainly be
Linux.


Is there a linux type that looks and works like Win98?
Which one? Will it run older software made for 98?


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Old January 12th 14, 11:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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The bottom line is this. Either kiss Microsoft's ass, or
toss your PC in the nearest garbage can. Well, I have
given this considerable thought, and decided that I will
never give Microsoft another cent. Particularly when I
hate every OS they have made since Win98. I can still
continue to use WIN98 for my personal uses, but in order
to go on the internet, I have decided to spend some money
and buy a Macintosh computer. I never thought that I'd
make that switch, and being elderly, I really hate having
to relearn to use a completely different computer system,
yet, there really is no other option.


Actually, there is.

My PC has WinXP; it looks and behaves just like it did when it had Win98.
The main difference is that it never crashes.

My laptop has Win8. It looks and behaves very similarly to my PC. It also
has WinXP on it in a virtual drive.

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