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Lostgallifreyan wrote:
MotoFox confucius- wrote in : Didn't stop me from pulling out the video board (had an old 16-bit Hercules ISA video board kicking around that worked well enough), sticking 98 on that box and using the SCSI to host a dial-up BBS for almost 10 years, tho... Before I had a computer, I think. I never got to see a BBS. Although I guess I'm using its direct decendent right now.. I'm not sure how Usenet relates to BBS, exactly though, if at all. Maybe just a similar use, rather than method? As I recall, some of the BBS services were used to get updated program files, or for some add-ons for the program, and were often hosted by the manufacturers. But in addition to these, there were some that were analogous to newsgroups for customers to participate in, with posts relating to hardware and software issues. And I seem to recall using Procomm for this. These were (as I recall) pretty much DOS-based services, with basic text screens (character displays only, limited to the basic ASCII set, like in DOS), although I think some later programs allowed you to run it in a DOS window, like Procomm Plus. But my memory may be off. One might say, in a sense, that BBS was a forerunner to Usenet. You don't know what you were missing. :-) I guess it seems primitive by today's standards. |
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"Bill in Co" wrote in
m: One might say, in a sense, that BBS was a forerunner to Usenet. You don't know what you were missing. :-) I guess it seems primitive by today's standards. I think I heard of a BBS from a guy who ran computer music gear. The Atari ST had just got some program called Cubase, and I remember the amazing whiteness and sharpness of the screen image, (no colours) and the guy (Steve Risley I think his name was) mentioning a BBS in conjunction with electronic music. I hadn't even got a phone at the time. But I was programming sounds on FM synthesizers, and was trying to figure out who if anyone might be interested in them, and what other things people were getting up to. Everything techincal from that time seems primitive now. But I don't knock it. A computer called DSKY that wouldn't hold a candle to a pocket calculator not only got men to the moon, it got the Apollo 17 crew back again. |
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
: "Bill in Co" wrote in m: One might say, in a sense, that BBS was a forerunner to Usenet. You don't know what you were missing. :-) I guess it seems primitive by today's standards. I think I heard of a BBS from a guy who ran computer music gear. The Atari ST had just got some program called Cubase, and I remember the amazing whiteness and sharpness of the screen image, (no colours) and the guy (Steve Risley I think his name was) mentioning a BBS in conjunction with electronic music. I hadn't even got a phone at the time. But I was programming sounds on FM synthesizers, and was trying to figure out who if anyone might be interested in them, and what other things people were getting up to. Everything techincal from that time seems primitive now. But I don't knock it. A computer called DSKY that wouldn't hold a candle to a pocket calculator not only got men to the moon, it got the Apollo 17 crew back again. Google bulletin board archives, 221000000 hits!!!!!!!! |
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Sjouke Burry s@b wrote in
.10: Lostgallifreyan wrote in : "Bill in Co" wrote in m: One might say, in a sense, that BBS was a forerunner to Usenet. You don't know what you were missing. :-) I guess it seems primitive by today's standards. I think I heard of a BBS from a guy who ran computer music gear. The Atari ST had just got some program called Cubase, and I remember the amazing whiteness and sharpness of the screen image, (no colours) and the guy (Steve Risley I think his name was) mentioning a BBS in conjunction with electronic music. I hadn't even got a phone at the time. But I was programming sounds on FM synthesizers, and was trying to figure out who if anyone might be interested in them, and what other things people were getting up to. Everything techincal from that time seems primitive now. But I don't knock it. A computer called DSKY that wouldn't hold a candle to a pocket calculator not only got men to the moon, it got the Apollo 17 crew back again. Google bulletin board archives, 221000000 hits!!!!!!!! I deliberately didn't do that. Just now I did, and I saw nothing that gave me any sense of how it differed from Usenet or a mailing list. Most of Google's returns (as ever) were irrelevant drivel and worse. Google is NO substitute for talking to a person who says they ran a bulletin board. I could wade through Google for hours trying to find out more but I really don't want to do that. Put it this way: If you could talk to an actor, or Google all the 'celeb' pages, which would you choose?! |
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In message , Bill in Co
writes: [] As I recall, some of the BBS services were used to get updated program files, or for some add-ons for the program, and were often hosted by the manufacturers. But in addition to these, there were some that were analogous to newsgroups for customers to participate in, with posts relating to hardware and software issues. And I seem to recall using Procomm for this. These were (as I recall) pretty much DOS-based services, with basic text screens (character displays only, limited to the basic ASCII set, like in DOS), although I think some later programs allowed you to run it in a DOS window, like Procomm Plus. But my memory may be off. [] Well, some of them would work whatever was at your end, but some of them actually ran the software you used to access them at their end, including drawing your screen - in character mode: quite a lot of use was made of a standard that had codes for character movement, and I think colours - I think it was called ANSI. I remember now that I had the equivalent software - what we'd now call a driver or DLL, I think - locally, such that my DOS prompt was in colour, so that (say) C:\this\that\theother\ had different colours for (IIRR) the C, the :, the \s, the , and the rest (and from what I typed after them). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I believe the cake has got to be sliced up to help those who are needy and you've got to keep someone there who's going to make the cake. Here we always destroy the people who make the cake. - Michael Caine (MM), RT, 7-13 Nov 2009. |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Bill in Co writes: [] As I recall, some of the BBS services were used to get updated program files, or for some add-ons for the program, and were often hosted by the manufacturers. But in addition to these, there were some that were analogous to newsgroups for customers to participate in, with posts relating to hardware and software issues. And I seem to recall using Procomm for this. These were (as I recall) pretty much DOS-based services, with basic text screens (character displays only, limited to the basic ASCII set, like in DOS), although I think some later programs allowed you to run it in a DOS window, like Procomm Plus. But my memory may be off. [] Well, some of them would work whatever was at your end, but some of them actually ran the software you used to access them at their end, including drawing your screen - in character mode: quite a lot of use was made of a standard that had codes for character movement, and I think colours - I think it was called ANSI. Yup, that's it. Which gave extended attributes to the basic ASCII characters on a text screen, like different colors, blinking characters, etc. I remember now that I had the equivalent software - what we'd now call a driver or DLL, I think - locally, such that my DOS prompt was in colour, so that (say) C:\this\that\theother\ had different colours for (IIRR) the C, the :, the \s, the , and the rest (and from what I typed after them). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I believe the cake has got to be sliced up to help those who are needy and you've got to keep someone there who's going to make the cake. Here we always destroy the people who make the cake. - Michael Caine (MM), RT, 7-13 Nov 2009. |
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MotoFox wrote:
And it came to pass that Bill in Co delivered the following message unto the people, saying~ As I recall, some of the BBS services were used to get updated program files, or for some add-ons for the program, and were often hosted by the manufacturers. Some of them were, particularly if they were operated by computer game companies or others. I recall Micro$oft even having such a service in the mid 80s-mid 90s, parallelling their FTP system, in addition to providing help forums like this Usenet hierarchy probably was back in its heyday. These were (as I recall) pretty much DOS-based services, with basic text screens (character displays only, limited to the basic ASCII set, like in DOS), although I think some later programs allowed you to run it in a DOS window, like Procomm Plus. But my memory may be off. Some were DOS, yes, but they weren't strictly limited to it. Some ran off Linux or BSD (mono.org is one that does.) Our BBS, "Ring of Thundera" ran off Wildcat (surprise surprise) which was a very popular DOS BBS server in the 90s-early 2000s. And remember the different protocols available, and needing to know which one was best to use for different cases? Like XMODEM, YMODEM,or ZMODEM, or whatever? One might say, in a sense, that BBS was a forerunner to Usenet. You don't know what you were missing. :-) I guess it seems primitive by today's standards. Not strictly the forerunner to the Usenet, since Usenet and BBSes pretty much co-existed for much of their existence. Ooops. I must have forgotten that too. I'd say they were more of a fore-runner to the World Wide Web, although many had services similar to what you'd find on Usenet ("talkers", we used to call those.) Most were accessed via a direct dial-up line (i.e. a regular f0ne number you'd call with your modem), so they definitely had a sense of localism, Yup. (now it's starting to come back a little bit better to me :-) since most, if not all, I've known about of were never made available via WATS or 0800 numbers. In later years many BBSes added TCP-IP connectivity, effectively making them available to anybody in the world with a telnet client. -- MotoFox Originator of the word "enubulous" ...!i84w!exit210!304senye!motofox |
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