Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

"Larry" wrote in
:

It turns out that Key Remapper just remaps individual keys,
not key combos.

There ARE apps which allow you to set combos. Try dome of the
others on that page or now that you know what you're looking
for, do some searching.

For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job
of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't constantly have to reach up
to the the F4 key to close a window. But it wasn't Alt+/
which took the assignement, it was / which took the
assignment. Meaning that pressing / would close a window
and also I had lost the ability to type a forward slash.

Generally speaking, this is what I have found to be the problem
with key remappers. You have to spend /dome time/ dreaming up a
useful key combination which will not conflict or cause
undesirable/disastrous results or both. The ONLY time I used one
successfully was when I had a keyboard so old it didn't have the
Windows keys, so I assigned a couple to those. It worked great.
When the old kbd died I got a newer keyboard and didn't need the
Key remapper anymore.

SNIP

And of course Key Remapper is no help at all in
unassigning/assigning commands to Winkey+[key], which is
what I was looking for.

I am not sure since I have managed to "get around" this problem,
but I don't know if there are ANY apps capable of changing those
very basic WinKey assignments...

Still, I would recommend some of the other apps or FKeys-type
apps (assign whatever you want - program, file, text - to an F
key, including Alt/Shift/Ctl modifiers gives you 30-36 in
total...

Maybe even something like ShortKeys Lite might do the job...

It was useful with one thing. I have a Lenovo laptop, and
the keyboard is very badly designed. For one thing, the
Delete key is in the same row as the function keys, as far
away as can be. I have to reach so far every time to press
Delete. So I assigned the ] (close bracket) key to run the
Delete key, and that's been an improvement though far from
ideal.

I hate laptop keyboards.

Thanks for the update and good luck in finding what you need! It
IS out there!


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In message , Larry
writes:
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For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't
constantly have to reach up to the the F4 key to close a window. But it
wasn't Alt+/ which took the assignement, it was / which took the assignment.

I suggest Alt+space followed by C: this sounds like a long-winded way of
getting the effect you want, but the keys are very handy (especially for
a left-hander). Alt-space gives the same effect as clicking top left of
a Window - it's the old Windows 3.1 window menu, but it's still there in
'9x and XP (and I think Vista too); from there C to close, or X to
maximise. No need for remappers ... (-:
[]
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"Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed.

In message , Larry
writes:
[]
For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't
constantly have to reach up to the the F4 key to close a window. But it
wasn't Alt+/ which took the assignement, it was / which took the assignment.

I suggest Alt+space followed by C: this sounds like a long-winded way of
getting the effect you want, but the keys are very handy (especially for
a left-hander). Alt-space gives the same effect as clicking top left of
a Window - it's the old Windows 3.1 window menu, but it's still there in
'9x and XP (and I think Vista too); from there C to close, or X to
maximise. No need for remappers ... (-:
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed.

In message , thanatoid
writes:
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undesirable/disastrous results or both. The ONLY time I used one
successfully was when I had a keyboard so old it didn't have the
Windows keys, so I assigned a couple to those. It worked great.

(But you lost something else, presumably.) Ctrl+Esc gives _some_ of the
same functionality as the Windows key - at least, you get the Start
menu; it doesn't work with combinations though.
[]
I hate laptop keyboards.
[]
Given the space restrictions, I like my old Toshiba laptop keyboard - it
has the arrows T slightly offset towards me, and - mainly - the standard
sixpack (PgUp/Dn, Insert/delete, Home/End) in the standard arrangement,
slightly offset towards the screen. I don't think I've seen _any_ modern
laptop/netbook keyboard (apart from the ones that are big enough to have
a full numeric pad) that has all four of home, end, Page Up, and Page
Down, and some have even those four as a shifted combination. I don't
think even many of any of the ones that have a numpad have the sixpack
_in the conventional arrangement_ - they're in a row or something.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed.

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
undesirable/disastrous results or both. The ONLY time I used one
successfully was when I had a keyboard so old it didn't have the
Windows keys, so I assigned a couple to those. It worked great.

(But you lost something else, presumably.) Ctrl+Esc gives _some_ of the
same functionality as the Windows key - at least, you get the Start
menu; it doesn't work with combinations though.
[]
I hate laptop keyboards.
[]
Given the space restrictions, I like my old Toshiba laptop keyboard - it
has the arrows T slightly offset towards me, and - mainly - the standard
sixpack (PgUp/Dn, Insert/delete, Home/End) in the standard arrangement,
slightly offset towards the screen. I don't think I've seen _any_ modern
laptop/netbook keyboard (apart from the ones that are big enough to have
a full numeric pad) that has all four of home, end, Page Up, and Page
Down, and some have even those four as a shifted combination. I don't
think even many of any of the ones that have a numpad have the sixpack
_in the conventional arrangement_ - they're in a row or something.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed.

I suggest Alt+space followed by C: this sounds like a long-winded way of
getting the effect you want, but the keys are very handy (especially for
a left-hander).


I have been using Alt+Space follwed by C occasionally, but that's too many
key strokes for my taste. :-)

I suggest Alt+space followed by C: this sounds like a long-winded way of
getting the effect you want, but the keys are very handy (especially for
a left-hander).


I have been using Alt+Space follwed by C occasionally, but that's too many
key strokes for my taste. :-)

Given the space restrictions, I like my old Toshiba laptop keyboard - it
has the arrows T slightly offset towards me, and - mainly - the standard
sixpack (PgUp/Dn, Insert/delete, Home/End) in the standard arrangement,
slightly offset towards the screen. I don't think I've seen _any_ modern
laptop/netbook keyboard (apart from the ones that are big enough to have
a full numeric pad) that has all four of home, end, Page Up, and Page
Down, and some have even those four as a shifted combination. I don't
think even many of any of the ones that have a numpad have the sixpack
_in the conventional arrangement_ - they're in a row or something.

Yes, key arrangements on laptops (and many full size kayboard as well) are
done with no thought to user-friendliness. For example, pageup and page down
will be in different place, whereas obviously they need to be right
together, because often you switch immediately from one to the other.

And get this: my Lenovo laptop has no Home key and End key! To get that
functionality, you have to hold down a Function key at the left side of the
keyboard while pressing Pageup or Pagedown. That's totally unacceptable.

Larry

Given the space restrictions, I like my old Toshiba laptop keyboard - it
has the arrows T slightly offset towards me, and - mainly - the standard
sixpack (PgUp/Dn, Insert/delete, Home/End) in the standard arrangement,
slightly offset towards the screen. I don't think I've seen _any_ modern
laptop/netbook keyboard (apart from the ones that are big enough to have
a full numeric pad) that has all four of home, end, Page Up, and Page
Down, and some have even those four as a shifted combination. I don't
think even many of any of the ones that have a numpad have the sixpack
_in the conventional arrangement_ - they're in a row or something.

Yes, key arrangements on laptops (and many full size kayboard as well) are
done with no thought to user-friendliness. For example, pageup and page down
will be in different place, whereas obviously they need to be right
together, because often you switch immediately from one to the other.

And get this: my Lenovo laptop has no Home key and End key! To get that
functionality, you have to hold down a Function key at the left side of the
keyboard while pressing Pageup or Pagedown. That's totally unacceptable.

Larry