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Old November 3rd 09, 12:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

Larry wrote:
So which system...


It's XP that I want to make the change in, since XP has that built-in Win+
assignment.

XP - check the Server 2003 ResKit Tools, XP ResKit [or was it the

Support Kit on the CD?] offered by Microsoft.

Great, I'll check this out. I'm actually surprised that Microsoft actually
supplies something that allows the user to change a built in Windows key
assignmemtn.

Larry


I'm not sure how far you really can go [those were just suggestions],
and the specific one you want to change {win+u} may be impossible. Just
a reminder [this is a 9X discussion group], this is XP actually being
discussed (and I avoid XP).

Overriding or Disabling Hotkeys
http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/misc/Override.htm
Program Your Own Keyboard Shortcuts
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2328732,00.asp

Sometimes the video driver or monitor may have its own over-ride abilities.

I suppose we would be remiss not putting something about what the
hotkeys/shortcuts are in he

Keyboard shortcuts for Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449

And to reset keys [from an XP customizing discussion]:

Control Panel Regional Language and Language Options Advanced tab
check the box at the very bottom (Default user account settings)

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Old November 3rd 09, 03:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"Larry" wrote in
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Check out this page:
http://software.filestube.com/k/key+remap

and go on from there if necessary.

You might also try a utility like FKeys etc.

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Old November 3rd 09, 03:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

"Larry" wrote in
:

Check out this page:
http://software.filestube.com/k/key+remap

and go on from there if necessary.

You might also try a utility like FKeys etc.

--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong
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Old November 3rd 09, 07:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which looks as though it
has as much flexibility as I could ask for. I'll find out soon if it can do
what I need.

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Old November 3rd 09, 07:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which looks as though it
has as much flexibility as I could ask for. I'll find out soon if it can do
what I need.

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Old November 4th 09, 12:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

"Larry" wrote in
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Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)


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Old November 4th 09, 12:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

"Larry" wrote in
:

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong
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Old November 6th 09, 03:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Larry
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)



It turns out that Key Remapper just remaps individual keys, not key combos.
For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't
constantly have to reach up to the the F4 key to close a window. But it
wasn't Alt+/ which took the assignement, it was / which took the assignment.
Meaning that pressing / would close a window and also I had lost the ability
to type a forward slash. So that wasn't usable. I wouldn't want a single key
to be able to do something as powerful as close a window—it's too easy to
press a single key by accident. It's impossible to press Alt+/ by accident.

And of course Key Remapper is no help at all in unassigning/assigning
commands to Winkey+[key], which is what I was looking for.

It was useful with one thing. I have a Lenovo laptop, and the keyboard is
very badly designed. For one thing, the Delete key is in the same row as the
function keys, as far away as can be. I have to reach so far every time to
press Delete. So I assigned the ] (close bracket) key to run the Delete key,
and that's been an improvement though far from ideal.




"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"Larry" wrote in
:

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong


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Old November 6th 09, 03:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Larry
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)



It turns out that Key Remapper just remaps individual keys, not key combos.
For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't
constantly have to reach up to the the F4 key to close a window. But it
wasn't Alt+/ which took the assignement, it was / which took the assignment.
Meaning that pressing / would close a window and also I had lost the ability
to type a forward slash. So that wasn't usable. I wouldn't want a single key
to be able to do something as powerful as close a window—it's too easy to
press a single key by accident. It's impossible to press Alt+/ by accident.

And of course Key Remapper is no help at all in unassigning/assigning
commands to Winkey+[key], which is what I was looking for.

It was useful with one thing. I have a Lenovo laptop, and the keyboard is
very badly designed. For one thing, the Delete key is in the same row as the
function keys, as far away as can be. I have to reach so far every time to
press Delete. So I assigned the ] (close bracket) key to run the Delete key,
and that's been an improvement though far from ideal.




"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"Larry" wrote in
:

Thanks. I've downloaded and installed. KeyRemapper, which
looks as though it has as much flexibility as I could ask
for. I'll find out soon if it can do what I need.


Hope it works for you. (Let us know, it's nice to know if a
suggestion was actually helpful!)


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong


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Old November 6th 09, 05:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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Default Un-assigning a default Windows key combination

"Larry" wrote in
:

It turns out that Key Remapper just remaps individual keys,
not key combos.


There ARE apps which allow you to set combos. Try dome of the
others on that page or now that you know what you're looking
for, do some searching.

For example, I assigned Alt+/ to do the job
of Alt+F4, so that I wouldn't constantly have to reach up
to the the F4 key to close a window. But it wasn't Alt+/
which took the assignement, it was / which took the
assignment. Meaning that pressing / would close a window
and also I had lost the ability to type a forward slash.


Generally speaking, this is what I have found to be the problem
with key remappers. You have to spend /dome time/ dreaming up a
useful key combination which will not conflict or cause
undesirable/disastrous results or both. The ONLY time I used one
successfully was when I had a keyboard so old it didn't have the
Windows keys, so I assigned a couple to those. It worked great.
When the old kbd died I got a newer keyboard and didn't need the
Key remapper anymore.

SNIP

And of course Key Remapper is no help at all in
unassigning/assigning commands to Winkey+[key], which is
what I was looking for.


I am not sure since I have managed to "get around" this problem,
but I don't know if there are ANY apps capable of changing those
very basic WinKey assignments...

Still, I would recommend some of the other apps or FKeys-type
apps (assign whatever you want - program, file, text - to an F
key, including Alt/Shift/Ctl modifiers gives you 30-36 in
total...

Maybe even something like ShortKeys Lite might do the job...

It was useful with one thing. I have a Lenovo laptop, and
the keyboard is very badly designed. For one thing, the
Delete key is in the same row as the function keys, as far
away as can be. I have to reach so far every time to press
Delete. So I assigned the ] (close bracket) key to run the
Delete key, and that's been an improvement though far from
ideal.


I hate laptop keyboards.

Thanks for the update and good luck in finding what you need! It
IS out there!


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong
 




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