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Old September 7th 14, 01:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

Hello all,

I've loaded some flat text into wordpad (as in: displayed as fixed-width
chars), and noticed that the tab-character (ASCII 0x09) width there is just
6 spaces, instead of the (by me) expected 8.

Does anyone know how/where to adjust this ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old September 7th 14, 05:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Auric__
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

R.Wieser wrote:

I've loaded some flat text into wordpad (as in: displayed as fixed-width
chars), and noticed that the tab-character (ASCII 0x09) width there is just
6 spaces, instead of the (by me) expected 8.

Does anyone know how/where to adjust this ?


That's... weird. Did you happen to set some tab stops?

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Old September 7th 14, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

Hello Auric__,

That's... weird. Did you happen to set some tab stops?


Nope. I just re-checked, the tabstops window shows none.

I did find that setting too, but when trying to use it I found I could not
select a "chars" measurement. Only inches, cm, points and picas where
available. And those seem to be aimed at non-fixed-width char display modi.

I did not find a "restore to defaults" for it either ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Auric__ schreef in berichtnieuws
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R.Wieser wrote:

I've loaded some flat text into wordpad (as in: displayed as fixed-width
chars), and noticed that the tab-character (ASCII 0x09) width there is

just
6 spaces, instead of the (by me) expected 8.

Does anyone know how/where to adjust this ?


That's... weird. Did you happen to set some tab stops?

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Old September 8th 14, 08:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
JJ[_2_]
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 23:50:44 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello Auric__,

That's... weird. Did you happen to set some tab stops?


Nope. I just re-checked, the tabstops window shows none.

I did find that setting too, but when trying to use it I found I could not
select a "chars" measurement. Only inches, cm, points and picas where
available. And those seem to be aimed at non-fixed-width char display modi.

I did not find a "restore to defaults" for it either ...


I just noticed this too in my Windows XP.

Seems like Wordpad has default tab stops at every half inches, whether the
used font is variable or fixed pitch, and regardless of document format. If
I use Courier New at 8pt, one tab is equal to 7 characters. At 20pt, one tab
is equal to 3 characters.

I think this is because Wordpad uses a Rich Text control, rather than
multi-line plain text box like Notepad used. Same thing applies to Microsoft
Word. If I open a plain text file, Word automatically chooses a fixed font,
but the tab stop problem exists just like in Word pad. In Word 2000, it
automatically chose Courier New 10pt, but one tab is equal to 6 character.
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Old September 8th 14, 11:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

Hey JJ,

Seems like Wordpad has default tab stops at every half inches,
whether the used font is variable or fixed pitch, and regardless
of document format. If I use Courier New at 8pt, one tab is
equal to 7 characters. At 20pt, one tab is equal to 3 characters.


Lol, thats ofcourse very usable: When you globally change the fontsize the
next thing you need to do is to re-calculate and enter all tabstops (to
match that new size).


I think this is because Wordpad uses a Rich Text control, rather
than multi-line plain text box like Notepad used


Although I understand what you are saying, its also nonsense outof the
direction of MS: A component which has got the intelligence to work with
variable-width text in multiple fonts & font-sizes as well as with embedded
objects (pictures) does not have the intelligence to (detect and) work with
fixed-width text(-parts) ? Thats plain silly.

There seems to be only one possible solution (which I consider a "hack", and
therefore do not particulary like), and that is to calculate *all* tabstops
for the editors default fixed-width font myself, and enter them into that
tab-settings box (the text working with is a program listing, and uses tabs
over the full width of the line). I'm not a happy camper. :-\

Shucks. I forgot something: Those tab-settings seem to be shared by all
modi (plain text, Rich text, word, write, embedded), which most likely would
make that "solution" worse than what it solves. Drats and double drats.

There seems to be only one solution: Find myself a real plain-text editor.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
JJ schreef in berichtnieuws
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 23:50:44 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello Auric__,

That's... weird. Did you happen to set some tab stops?


Nope. I just re-checked, the tabstops window shows none.

I did find that setting too, but when trying to use it I found I could n

ot
select a "chars" measurement. Only inches, cm, points and picas where
available. And those seem to be aimed at non-fixed-width char display

modi.

I did not find a "restore to defaults" for it either ...


I just noticed this too in my Windows XP.

Seems like Wordpad has default tab stops at every half inches, whether the
used font is variable or fixed pitch, and regardless of document format.

If
I use Courier New at 8pt, one tab is equal to 7 characters. At 20pt, one

tab
is equal to 3 characters.

I think this is because Wordpad uses a Rich Text control, rather than
multi-line plain text box like Notepad used. Same thing applies to

Microsoft
Word. If I open a plain text file, Word automatically chooses a fixed

font,
but the tab stop problem exists just like in Word pad. In Word 2000, it
automatically chose Courier New 10pt, but one tab is equal to 6 character.



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Old September 8th 14, 11:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Computer Nerd Kev[_2_]
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

R.Wieser wrote:

There seems to be only one solution: Find myself a real plain-text editor.


Notepad no good?

I don't know if it was installed with every version of Win98, but you
could try the "edit" command in a DOS window to bring up the DOS editor.

If that still won't do and you can't find a Windows editor online that
does what you want (though I personally can't imagine what WordPad adds
to plain text editing anyway, except perhaps multiple undo cycles), there
are a lot of very well featured DOS text editors out there as well.

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Old September 9th 14, 01:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
JJ[_2_]
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:26:40 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

There seems to be only one solution: Find myself a real plain-text editor.


Try AkelPad: http://akelpad.sf.net/

I don't know if it's runnable on Windows 9x, though...
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Old September 9th 14, 05:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lee
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

Metapad will allow you to select the count of spaces used for tabs and does run on 9x, XP and the like. No size limit like Notepad either. I use it for launching browser windows as it can be set to do so on double clicks of hyper text links.
http://liquidninja.com/metapad/

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Old September 9th 14, 09:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default Wordpad change tab-chars width in spaces

Hey Kev,

Notepad no good?


That one only works upto 64 KByte, which isn't quite enough (even a small
listing goes over that).

I don't know if it was installed with every version of Win98, but
you could try the "edit" command in a DOS window to bring up
the DOS editor.


Shucks. I've been using that DOS window for so long most only in fullscreen
mode that I forgot it works as well in windowed mode. And EDIT seems to
understand long filenames.

The only thing against EDIT would be the absense of decent copy-paste
functionality (from/into other open windows).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Computer Nerd Kev schreef in berichtnieuws
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R.Wieser wrote:

There seems to be only one solution: Find myself a real plain-text

editor.

Notepad no good?

I don't know if it was installed with every version of Win98, but you
could try the "edit" command in a DOS window to bring up the DOS editor.

If that still won't do and you can't find a Windows editor online that
does what you want (though I personally can't imagine what WordPad adds
to plain text editing anyway, except perhaps multiple undo cycles), there
are a lot of very well featured DOS text editors out there as well.

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