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  #21  
Old June 5th 08, 01:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?








  #22  
Old June 5th 08, 01:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?








  #23  
Old June 5th 08, 01:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that
matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later,
thank you very,very,very much.....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?









  #24  
Old June 5th 08, 01:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that
matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later,
thank you very,very,very much.....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?









  #25  
Old June 5th 08, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

You're welcome.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i
dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that
matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later,
thank you very,very,very much.....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try
going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test
things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you
might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you
need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept
something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept
some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers?
i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the
audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I
asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP
newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice
menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at
startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error
loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum
for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am
now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup
doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is
not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system
and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning
(but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on
the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your
Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are
almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that
day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode,
there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't
hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should
bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the
F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing
the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and
on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and
type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that
panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier
to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was
trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but
the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows
also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications,
the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company
is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to
install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the
driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?










  #26  
Old June 5th 08, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

You're welcome.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i
dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that
matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later,
thank you very,very,very much.....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try
going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes
away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's
primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test
things
out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you
might
want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you
need
it."
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...
Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept
something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept
some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers?
i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still
have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes
from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start
up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the
audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I
asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP
newsgroup.
But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is
your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice
menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to
the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at
startup,
how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error
loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats
from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum
for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am
now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new
backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup
doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our
options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is
not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system
and
get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and
reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning
(but
not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system
files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup
installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on
the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your
Windows
98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are
almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that
day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your
system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode,
there
are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and
immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't
hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the
chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should
bring
up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the
F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing
the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and
on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and
type
in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group
items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that
panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier
to
get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed.
Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted.
When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be
safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective
applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is
just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was
trying
also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to
open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but
the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows
also,but
i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications,
the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company
is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to
install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the
restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some
stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its
the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the
driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just
stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?










 




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