How to connect to a new monitor

Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via TightVNC.
However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to be preventing
the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it on my 'network' and
can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the foresight to try and install my
new monitor drivers on the old machine so when I connect it up to the new
monitor nothing happens. Short of buying an old monitor second hand, can
anyone suggest an alternative to see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up but I
would still like to use it......

Cheers

Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

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Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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"MEB" wrote in message
...
Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
Thanks, but how do I do that when I haven't got any way of seeing what's
going on?

"MEB" wrote in message
...
Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
Thanks, but how do I do that when I haven't got any way of seeing what's
going on?

Endulini wrote:

"MEB" wrote in message
...
Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

--
MEB


Thanks, but how do I do that when I haven't got any way of seeing what's
going on?

Are you "sharing" the monitor among the two machines or what?
What monitor are you now using and what was it before?

Then you have no connectivity via TightVNC at all? Did you check in the
VISTA end yet?

You might want to "borrow" an old monitor from someone... then think
about how good you are with modifying the registry from a command
prompt. Though it might be beneficial to know whether you can see the
BIOS load screen or anything at all.

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MEB
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Endulini wrote:

"MEB" wrote in message
...
Endulini wrote:
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via
TightVNC. However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to
be preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it
on my 'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the
foresight to try and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine
so when I connect it up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of
buying an old monitor second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to
see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up
but I would still like to use it......

Cheers

On the 9X computer - boot to Safe Mode and remove/uninstall the old
monitor by changing to the default/generic driver [Control Panel
System Device Manager Monitor remove or change]. It "should"
reboot to a terrible looking display with minimal resolution and
frequency [if not read below].
IF a newer monitor [date-wise] then it is TRYING to "talk" to the OS
and video adapter via its inbuilt "memory" via PlugnPray/Play likely
causing issues with PRIOR supported resolutions and frequencies, OR, if
an older monitor, it may not support what the prior monitor did [often
frequency issues].
You MAY have to uninstall the adapter driver as well first supplying
the proper monitor information then re-installing the adapter driver
so they can adapt to each other [flat screens/LCD may require a little
playing around to find what works best].

As per TightVNC - you may have some recent updates to VISTA involved,
check both TightVNC {for updates and settings} AND within VISTA and the
app to see what's changed.
http://www.tightvnc.com/release-1.3.10.php

--
MEB


Thanks, but how do I do that when I haven't got any way of seeing what's
going on?

Are you "sharing" the monitor among the two machines or what?
What monitor are you now using and what was it before?

Then you have no connectivity via TightVNC at all? Did you check in the
VISTA end yet?

You might want to "borrow" an old monitor from someone... then think
about how good you are with modifying the registry from a command
prompt. Though it might be beneficial to know whether you can see the
BIOS load screen or anything at all.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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Based on your description, it seems more likely that the video card, not the
monitor, has failed, or perhaps the whole machine has failed.

Why do you think it is just the monitor, and not something more serious?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Endulini" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via TightVNC.
However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to be
preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it on my
'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the foresight to try
and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine so when I connect it
up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of buying an old monitor
second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up but
I would still like to use it......

Cheers

Based on your description, it seems more likely that the video card, not the
monitor, has failed, or perhaps the whole machine has failed.

Why do you think it is just the monitor, and not something more serious?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Endulini" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via TightVNC.
However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to be
preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it on my
'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the foresight to try
and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine so when I connect it
up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of buying an old monitor
second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to see what's going on?

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up but
I would still like to use it......

Cheers

In message , Jeff Richards
writes:
Based on your description, it seems more likely that the video card,
not the monitor, has failed, or perhaps the whole machine has failed.

Why do you think it is just the monitor, and not something more
serious?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

I tend to agree with Jeff: sounds like the old PC has died altogether.
(Jeff, if you're going to top post, can you not use a proper .sig
separator? It makes whatever you quote look like part of your .sig!)

"Endulini" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using my old Win98 PC as a temporary external hard disc for my newer
Vista PC (until I get a proper external) and was connecting via TightVNC.

However the old monitor has now broken and something seems to be
preventing the 98 PC from booting properly, at least I can't see it on my
'network' and can't connect via TightVNC. I never had the foresight to try
and install my new monitor drivers on the old machine so when I connect it
up to the new monitor nothing happens. Short of buying an old monitor

Does that include the bootup screens - the (mostly) black-and-white text
screens that happen just after switchon?

Does the old monitor work on the new machine - if only during bootup?

second hand, can anyone suggest an alternative to see what's going on?

If the old monitor's definitely died, you should be able to _borrow_ a
monitor, I'd hope. (I could give you one, but I don't suppose you're in
Kent, England!)

Fortunately there is nothing valuable on there and it's all backed up but
I would still like to use it......
[]
If it _has_ died, you can still use its hard disc (unless that's what
has died, of course, but that shouldn't stop BIOS screens appearing) via
an external box, or the "poor man's external box" in the form of just a
cable and power supply. (Well, the cable obviously has some electronics
in it.) USB-to-(E)IDE cable kits are very cheap - I got mine for a fiver
at a computer fair, including the necessary power supply. I've since
seen them with SATA connectivity too, though you won't need that for the
drive out of a '98-vintage machine.
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