Heather

It never ceases to amaze me what a wide and weird assortment of in-depth
knowledge and far-ranging interests this Millennium group possesses.
I suspect we could almost rebuild the planet if needed, ... and if we had
the Internet.
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"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:21:08 -0000, "Mike M"

Heavy bomber designed to deliver nuclear weapons.

Carried the "Blue Steel" stand-off missile, wasn't it?

The Vulcan (http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...can/index.html)
was
perhaps the most successful and certainly the best known of the three
British V bombers, the others being the Valiant (built by Vickers
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/valiant/) and the Victor (from
Handley Page http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...tor/index.html).
The Victor went on to serve for many years as a in-flight refuelling
tanker.

What was interesting was that the Victor's distinctive swept wing
design (which sweeps slightly more forwards from some point along the
edge) came from a single test sample of a wartime German jet bomber.
If I remember correctly, the Arado Ar 234 v16.

Yes! Google agrees :-)

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/His...r234/Ar234.htm

This is also interesting reading...

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/GermanJets.html

No pictures of the v16, unfortunately, though Google found some links
for model conversion kits to add the v16's swept wings.



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Heavy bomber designed to deliver nuclear weapons.

Carried the "Blue Steel" stand-off missile, wasn't it?

Mm. In an earlier post I made the elementary (frankly illiterate) error of
calling it a bomb. About 100 mile range. Did you know that the V-Force crew
were required to wear an eyepatch, so if the nuclear blast blinded one eye
they had one in reserve? Knowing you, you did g. Been up in a Lightning
yet then Chris?


Shane




The Vulcan (http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...can/index.html)
was
perhaps the most successful and certainly the best known of the three
British V bombers, the others being the Valiant (built by Vickers
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/valiant/) and the Victor (from
Handley Page http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...tor/index.html).
The Victor went on to serve for many years as a in-flight refuelling
tanker.

What was interesting was that the Victor's distinctive swept wing
design (which sweeps slightly more forwards from some point along the
edge) came from a single test sample of a wartime German jet bomber.
If I remember correctly, the Arado Ar 234 v16.

Yes! Google agrees :-)

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/His...r234/Ar234.htm

This is also interesting reading...

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/GermanJets.html

No pictures of the v16, unfortunately, though Google found some links
for model conversion kits to add the v16's swept wings.



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Cats have 9 lives, which makes them
ideal for experimentation!
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Yeah, Jack. We're the anorak's anorak's! g


Shane


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
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It never ceases to amaze me what a wide and weird assortment of in-depth
knowledge and far-ranging interests this Millennium group possesses.
I suspect we could almost rebuild the planet if needed, ... and if we had
the Internet.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
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"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:21:08 -0000, "Mike M"

Heavy bomber designed to deliver nuclear weapons.

Carried the "Blue Steel" stand-off missile, wasn't it?

The Vulcan (http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...can/index.html)
was
perhaps the most successful and certainly the best known of the three
British V bombers, the others being the Valiant (built by Vickers
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/valiant/) and the Victor (from
Handley Page
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co...tor/index.html).
The Victor went on to serve for many years as a in-flight refuelling
tanker.

What was interesting was that the Victor's distinctive swept wing
design (which sweeps slightly more forwards from some point along the
edge) came from a single test sample of a wartime German jet bomber.
If I remember correctly, the Arado Ar 234 v16.

Yes! Google agrees :-)

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/His...r234/Ar234.htm

This is also interesting reading...

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/GermanJets.html

No pictures of the v16, unfortunately, though Google found some links
for model conversion kits to add the v16's swept wings.



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Cats have 9 lives, which makes them
ideal for experimentation!
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"Heather" wrote in message
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No.....I will have to see if Ron remembers.....I can picture the durned
bottle the way it is sold in Spain, but not here. Has a netting on it.

Was it a lobster?


Shane

Hm. I never saw this response, Jack. Apologies again!

It's fair to say I don't know much about wine, but I know what I like! Every
wine-producing region in Europe I go to has excellent, cheap, wine. I expect
it's the stuff that tends not to travel well - or anyway when I and others
bring it back, I drink it before it turns to vinegar.

A year ago I was in Switzerland, in the Vallais region. I love their whites,
grown low on the alpine slopes. While there I had the opportunity to raid a
rich-guy's wine cellar and didn't find anything I enjoyed more than the
house whites in the restaurants. Of course that may speak more of my lack of
sophistication re the vino, though I did pinch an aged chianti (probably
should've had it with liver and fava beans!.......maybe next time.........).


Shane


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
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You're on. I'll keep you notified.

Personally, I think the Californian, Washington state, Australian,
Chilean,
Argentinean, German, Italian, and New Zealand wines offer the best bang
for
the buck, ... but good values and interesting tastes/aromas exist
everywhere
that good wine is grown. There is a wonderful red wine produced in a
winery
just west of Fort Worth, Texas, ... no kidding! 90 pts. from Wine
Enthusiast, ... and I agree. Who wudda' thunk it!

I recently discovered the Japanese Choya Umeshu plum wine, which is most
interesting. Very complex and nutty flavored, almost sherry-like. The
plum
itself is very unusually flavored.

I suppose some ten million wines are now offered commercially each year.
We
are truly living in the greatest wine age! Quality has never been higher.

Did you want to talk about port, or madeira, or even marsala?
Or German or Niagara, Canada, ice wine? Or, maybe, Australian
botrytris-infected reislings and sauternes?

We can discuss this further when I get there.
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"Shane" wrote in message
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We must meet if I get to England anytime soon. What a party it will
be!

You'd better hurry, Jack! I've already started!

vbg

I've got red wine here. They didn't have the French stuff I usually
drink,
so I got Spanish....and d'you know what? It tastes Spanish!


Shane


snip

I apologise for this in advance and I'll add my rofl now with the
explanation that I'm on the Cote du Roussillon again!

Which simply prompts me to ask what sort of "newbie" it might be who would
wade through a thread entitled "Heather" looking for a solution to their
problem.

Someone who's only just met her?


(Oh, what the hell, another rofl!)

Sorry Figgs me darlin'!


Shane

Cheers H. Takes one to know one, as they say!

Shane


"heirloom" wrote in message
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.....a Millenium 262........now there's a thought.
Heirloom, old and good one Shane


"Shane" wrote in message
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The Victor was another beautiful plane, reminds me of a swallow in
flight!
Such a shame about our multitude of first-rate aircraft manufacturers
that
are no more.

Wish they had more than just a Victor cockpit at Hendon. Not that they
could
fit it anywhere - as it is you can't get a decent shot of the Vulcan or
Valiant, they're crammed into the Bomber Command hall so tight. Their
Valiant is supposedly *the* plane that dropped our first H-Bomb. I
sometimes
wonder if I should take a Geiger Counter when I go there.

Of course, in the Milestones of Flight hangar they've got an ME 262,
which
might even make this post on-topic!


Shane

Sounds like somebody's been dancin' with mescalitto again.

Is that the cactus or the worm?


Shane

Shame on you, making fun of a little old lady......a shy, quiet little old
lady at that......ROFL!!

Nomad will soon learn......unless he is the *Nomad* from alt.comp.virus
which I don't think he is.....grin.

Been out today.....otherwise I would have *nailed you* earlier.

Kissies.....Figgs

"Shane" wrote in message
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I apologise for this in advance and I'll add my rofl now with the
explanation that I'm on the Cote du Roussillon again!

Which simply prompts me to ask what sort of "newbie" it might be who
would
wade through a thread entitled "Heather" looking for a solution to their
problem.

Someone who's only just met her?


(Oh, what the hell, another rofl!)

Sorry Figgs me darlin'!


Shane

Hokay, Jose.....you just wait and watch over your shoulder. The Witch of
the North will get you.

Sending a little *wrath* your way.....could you send me some warm weather?
Still snowing up here.

Kissies.....Figgs

"heirloom" wrote in message
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Mike is being modest to the nTH degree, Nomad. He has been the 'life
saver'
for just about everyone in the group, at one time or another. You would
be
hard pressed to find a more learned or patient person.

Besides, you don't know what "a day" is until Heather gets a hold on you!!
g.
Heirloom, old and feeling the wrath of Figgs
already


"Mike M" wrote in message
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Nomad,

We ALL have such days, some of us more often than others vbg (who?
me?).
Please stick around and if you feel you have something to offer to a
poster then dive in. Do it once or twice and you might find just it
becomes addictive. Not only that but you will learn as well since
helping
others I find is a two way process and I have learned far more from
posting here than I've probably contributed.

Regards and welcome,
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Nomad wrote:

Thanks for the reply...I like to believe I was experiencing a bad day
with I ranted...thx all for putting up with it (me). You're correct,
this is a wonderful NG and well worth the visit. As far as being a
potential 'great asset here', I'm not all that sure...if I continue
to have "one of those days"...