Heather

Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.

Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.

Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.

Good to see you're back, Shane.
Thank you for your far reaching advice.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily -
update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again.
I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't
consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from
early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and
went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG
does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and
an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion
on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate
Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before
using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.

You're welcome, Harry, and you're most kind also.


Shane


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Good to see you're back, Shane.
Thank you for your far reaching advice.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily -
update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again.
I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I
haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is
enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't
consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from
early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue,
of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues
or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and
went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG
does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and
an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them.
If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion
on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate
Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before
using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.

Shane wrote:

I don't consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install,
etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like
fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher)


Rick

Hi Rick,

I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has
resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating
restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it on
my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the
moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there
was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature of
which my brain appears to have fifo'd!

But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the ability
to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP machines
and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all
Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue)
and start again.

Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been
problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x. I
think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more
comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive).

Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their ditching
the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with ZA.


Shane


"Rick T" wrote in message
...
Shane wrote:

I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between
Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls.

? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install,
etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like
fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher)


Rick

k, thanks Shane

Rick

Shane wrote:
Hi Rick,

I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has
resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating
restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it on
my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the
moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there
was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature of
which my brain appears to have fifo'd!

But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the ability
to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP machines
and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all
Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue)
and start again.

Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been
problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x. I
think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more
comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive).

Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their ditching
the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with ZA.

Leaving aside the earlier noted problems with SR checkpoint prevention in a
few ZA versions, I have never had any problems with the free ZA on any WinME
or XP machine.
Considering that I am this galaxy's prime example of "Murphy's Law", I think
that is very good.

I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is
often the fundamental answer to such problems.
A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like
an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the
internet community.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hi Rick,

I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has
resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating
restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it
on
my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the
moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there
was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature
of
which my brain appears to have fifo'd!

But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the
ability
to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP
machines
and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all
Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue)
and start again.

Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been
problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x.
I
think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more
comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive).

Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their
ditching
the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with
ZA.


Shane


"Rick T" wrote in message
...
Shane wrote:

I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between
Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls.

? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install,
etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like
fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher)


Rick

Update: I just uninstalled Sygate in ME and put Kerio 4.1.2 on there.
Pretty-much any time I used Task Manager, SMC (Sygate) was *not
responding* - not that there was any indication of a problem. Also it seems
something of a resource hog.

Shane

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily -
update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again.
I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't
consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from
early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and
went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG
does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and
an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion
on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate
Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before
using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.