Invalid System Disk

Sorry. The previous was my first post of the morning, and I was entirely
confused about what was what.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Robert" wrote in message
...
Jeff,
I collected the Product Key with the directions from the link below. I now
have a safety net in case all else fails, actually in case I fail to follow
the directions correctly. I'll now proceed with the steps at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149110.

Thanks & Happy New Year!
Robert


"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
There is information here about getting the product key in order to do a
re-install. However, I would be surprised if this was necessary.
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert" wrote in message
...
is it possible to get into regedit via a 98se boot disk. If so I may
consider collecting the OS product key in order to reinstall win98se?

"Gabriele Hauschild" wrote in
message
...
Hello Robert,

That error_ message is usually generated once a file
like "command.com" is missing and you followed the right
procedure.

Does it not go into "Safe mode" after it says it is
bypassing the startup files? If it can go into Safe mode,
let do so and then just shut down, switch off and remove
the power cord for a few moments.

Then replug and switch on. If you still can't run windows
in normal mode, m_aybe someone else will have further
suggestions, but I would be willing_ to send you a zip
file with the files that I have in my parent (C folder
if you wish, strictly upon the basis it is used entirely
at your own risk. I run current anti-virus and firewall
but you should still do your own virus check if you
receive files from someone else. If you would like me to
do that, post back with an e-mail address. You can anti-
spam your e-mail address by putting words: "delete" in
it, which I would ignore, thus:
e.g. ".

Best of luck.

-----Original Message-----
In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se
machines my children
(they go back to school Monday) started to delete
things "they" thought were
not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted
but I now have the
following:

The System:
Pentium w/MMX
233 mhz
92 ram
win98se

When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid
System Disk." I tried
to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the
help file that if I
saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this
and it reported
back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the
computer off (with the
power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to
restart the computer
only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode
this: "Windows is
bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk
(off of the boot
disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to
get this unit running
again?

Any help would be appreciated,
Robert


.

Start the system using a boot disk. At the A:\ prompt, run the following
command:

attrib -s -h -r c:\msdos.sys

There are spaces before each hyphen (or minus sign--same thing) and before
C:\msdos.sys. It is doubtful that you have ever compressed the HD. This was a
procedure common in Win95 systems, not Win98.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Robert" wrote in message
...
I'm having some difficulty with this procedure.

""Remove the system, hidden, and read-only attributes from the Msdos.sys
file in the root folder of the boot drive. To do so, type the following
command at the command prompt
attrib -s -h -r drive:\msdos.sys
where drive is the physical boot drive.
NOTE: If drive C is compressed and is currently mounted, the Msdos.sys file
is located on the host drive for drive C. If drive C is not compressed or is
not currently mounted, the Msdos.sys file is located on drive C.""


I've tried this both with and without starting the computer with the w98
boot disk. I'm not sure of:
a) how I should be typing this in? Is there spaces between the -s,-h,-r? Are
these minus signs?
b)with or with out the boot disk?
c) and what about if the drive in compressed? I don't ember compressing the
drive, is this something I can and should check first?

Robert

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
You say that booting to hard disk gets you to a C:\ prompt, but then you
say that you booted to safe mode, or at least tried. I think there's a
step
in the middle you haven't mentioned, but the message indicates a simple
problem with MSDOS.SYS. See here for an explanation of what might have
happened and how to fix it.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149110
Cannot Start Windows 95 After Using the SYS Command

See here for more information on what the file should look like::
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=118579
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert" wrote in message
...
In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se machines my children
(they go back to school Monday) started to delete things "they" thought
were
not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted but I now have
the
following:

The System:
Pentium w/MMX
233 mhz
92 ram
win98se

When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid System Disk." I
tried
to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the help file that if
I
saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this and it
reported
back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the computer off (with
the
power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to restart the
computer
only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode this: "Windows
is
bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk (off of the boot
disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to get this unit
running
again?

I'm up to the point where I need to save (I think), but I'm unable to find a
way to do that (save)?


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Start the system using a boot disk. At the A:\ prompt, run the following
command:

attrib -s -h -r c:\msdos.sys

There are spaces before each hyphen (or minus sign--same thing) and before
C:\msdos.sys. It is doubtful that you have ever compressed the HD. This
was a
procedure common in Win95 systems, not Win98.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Robert" wrote in message
...
I'm having some difficulty with this procedure.

""Remove the system, hidden, and read-only attributes from the Msdos.sys
file in the root folder of the boot drive. To do so, type the following
command at the command prompt
attrib -s -h -r drive:\msdos.sys
where drive is the physical boot drive.
NOTE: If drive C is compressed and is currently mounted, the Msdos.sys
file
is located on the host drive for drive C. If drive C is not compressed
or is
not currently mounted, the Msdos.sys file is located on drive C.""


I've tried this both with and without starting the computer with the w98
boot disk. I'm not sure of:
a) how I should be typing this in? Is there spaces between the -s,-h,-r?
Are
these minus signs?
b)with or with out the boot disk?
c) and what about if the drive in compressed? I don't ember compressing
the
drive, is this something I can and should check first?

Robert

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
You say that booting to hard disk gets you to a C:\ prompt, but then
you
say that you booted to safe mode, or at least tried. I think there's
a
step
in the middle you haven't mentioned, but the message indicates a
simple
problem with MSDOS.SYS. See here for an explanation of what might have
happened and how to fix it.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149110
Cannot Start Windows 95 After Using the SYS Command

See here for more information on what the file should look like::
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=118579
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert" wrote in message
...
In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se machines my
children
(they go back to school Monday) started to delete things "they"
thought
were
not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted but I now
have
the
following:

The System:
Pentium w/MMX
233 mhz
92 ram
win98se

When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid System Disk." I
tried
to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the help file
that if
I
saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this and it
reported
back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the computer off
(with
the
power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to restart the
computer
only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode this:
"Windows
is
bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk (off of the
boot
disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to get this unit
running
again?

OK. It works! Win98 is up and running. Funny this is that I had to reach out
to the one that put me in this boondoggle in the first place. MY SON. But
only for how to save in dos, you guys did the rest. God, he'll never let me
live that down.

Thanks to all for their patience,
Robert


"Robert" wrote in message
...
I'm up to the point where I need to save (I think), but I'm unable to find
a
way to do that (save)?


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Start the system using a boot disk. At the A:\ prompt, run the
following
command:

attrib -s -h -r c:\msdos.sys

There are spaces before each hyphen (or minus sign--same thing) and
before
C:\msdos.sys. It is doubtful that you have ever compressed the HD. This
was a
procedure common in Win95 systems, not Win98.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Robert" wrote in message
...
I'm having some difficulty with this procedure.

""Remove the system, hidden, and read-only attributes from the
Msdos.sys
file in the root folder of the boot drive. To do so, type the
following
command at the command prompt
attrib -s -h -r drive:\msdos.sys
where drive is the physical boot drive.
NOTE: If drive C is compressed and is currently mounted, the Msdos.sys
file
is located on the host drive for drive C. If drive C is not compressed
or is
not currently mounted, the Msdos.sys file is located on drive C.""


I've tried this both with and without starting the computer with the
w98
boot disk. I'm not sure of:
a) how I should be typing this in? Is there spaces between
the -s,-h,-r?
Are
these minus signs?
b)with or with out the boot disk?
c) and what about if the drive in compressed? I don't ember
compressing
the
drive, is this something I can and should check first?

Robert

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
You say that booting to hard disk gets you to a C:\ prompt, but
then
you
say that you booted to safe mode, or at least tried. I think
there's
a
step
in the middle you haven't mentioned, but the message indicates a
simple
problem with MSDOS.SYS. See here for an explanation of what might
have
happened and how to fix it.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149110
Cannot Start Windows 95 After Using the SYS Command

See here for more information on what the file should look like::
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=118579
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert" wrote in message
...
In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se machines my
children
(they go back to school Monday) started to delete things "they"
thought
were
not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted but I
now
have
the
following:

The System:
Pentium w/MMX
233 mhz
92 ram
win98se

When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid System Disk."
I
tried
to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the help file
that if
I
saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this and it
reported
back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the computer off
(with
the
power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to restart
the
computer
only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode this:
"Windows
is
bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk (off of
the
boot
disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to get this
unit
running
again?

You're welcome, and thanks for letting us know that you got it sorted out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert" wrote in message
...
OK. It works! Win98 is up and running. Funny this is that I had to reach
out
to the one that put me in this boondoggle in the first place. MY SON. But
only for how to save in dos, you guys did the rest. God, he'll never let
me
live that down.

Thanks to all for their patience,
Robert

Sure, there was plenty good in your post! I suppose you might also add
into it the URL I have put into my own Master Post on this topic...

Here is how to Edit MSDOS.sys in DOS. (If you have a Winboot.ini, it
will override MSDOS.sys, though. So, check for that too. It has the same
format as the other.)...

C:\DIR C:\Winboot.ini /a
Directory of C:\
File not found

C:\DIR C:\msdos.sys /a
Directory of C:\
MSDOS SYS 1,784 06-15-04 6:40p MSDOS.SYS
1 file(s) 1,784 bytes

ATTRIB -S -H -R C:\MSDOS.sys
EDIT C:\MSDOS.sys
Alt-F-X-ENTER (pressed separately) will exit EDIT. (TAB may prove
helpful to navigate buttons.)
ATTRIB +S +H +R C:\MSDOS.sys

Report what you see. If you intend to make no change, you do not need
the "ATTRIB" statements.

http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q118/5/79.asp
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File

Here is mine. If you use CVFs (Compressed Volume Files), do not include
Dblspace=0 & Drvspace=0. Do not include Network=0, if you connect to a
Network. Logo=0 suppresses the Windows logo at boot.

[Paths]
WinDir=c:\windows
WinBootDir=c:\windows
HostWinBootDrv=c

[Options]
AutoScan=1
BootMenu=1 ;Per Win98
BootMenuDelay=10
Dblspace=0 ;Per Win98
Drvspace=0 ; Secrets
DoubleBuffer=1
Logo=0
Network=0
WinVer=4.10.2222

;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be 1024 bytes).
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxk
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxm
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxn
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxq
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxr
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
| Oops. Well its all there, no need to copy anything to the 98SE
startup
| floppy apparently. Maybe someone got some use out of how to use
attrib and
| edit on the msdos.sys file.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| Very well writ, Lil' Dave. BUT, from the Readme on a Startup
Diskette...
|
| EBD.CAB file
| =================================
| The Ebd.cab file is a compressed file whose contents are extracted
to
| the
| Ramdrive during the startup process. The table below identifies the
| files
| in the Ebd.cab file.
|
| File Function
| Attrib.exe Add or remove file attributes
| Chkdsk.exe A simpler and smaller disk status tool
| Debug.exe Debugging utility
| Edit.com Real-mode emergency text editor
| Ext.exe New, simple file extract utility
| Format.com Disk format tool
| Mscdex.exe Microsoft CD-ROM file extension for MS-DOS
| Scandisk.exe Disk status tool
| Scandisk.ini Disk status tool configuration file
| Sys.com Transfers system files and make disk bootable
|
| And...
|
| List of all components on the EBD
| ====================================
| The following table describes the function of each file copied to
the
| EBD.
|
| File Function
| Aspi2dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver
| Aspi4dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver
| Aspi8dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver
| Aspi8u2.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver
| Aspicd.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver
| Autoexec.bat Startup batch file
| Btcdrom.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driver
| Btdosm.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driver
| Command.com Command interpreter
| Config.sys Loads the device drivers
| Drvspace.bin Microsoft DriveSpace compression driver
| Ebd.cab Cab file containing extract utilities
| Ebd.sys File identifying the ESD
| Extract.exe File to expand the Ebd.cab file
| Fdisk.exe Disk partition tool
| Findramd.exe Utility to find the RAMDrive during startup
| Flashpt.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driver
| Himem.sys XMS Memory Manager
| Io.sys System boot file
| Msdos.sys Boot option information (paths, multiboot, and so on)
| Oakcdrom.sys Generic device driver for ATAPI CD-ROM drives
| Ramdrive.sys Creates a Ramdrive during startup
| Setramd.bat Searches for first available drive to be a Ramdrive
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Lil' Dave" wrote in message
| ...
| | You should ensure that you're using a 98SE startup diskette as the
| first
| | step. This has the correct form of the command.com file for your
| operating
| | system. The plain jane Win 98 command.com file is NOT the same.
Go
| to
| | another PC with internet access and go to bootdisk.com website.
Find
| the
| | 98SE startup disk download. Download it, run the file. Run the
| resulting
| | file with a formatted floppy in the diskette drive. Afterwards,
you
| should
| | have 98SE startup diskette.
| |
| | The default msdos.sys for the floppy boot diskette is empty of
data.
| Using
| | "sys c:" command simply copies this to the boot sector of the c:
| partition.
| | Yours or anyone else's PC cannot boot Win 98SE using this form of
| msdos.sys
| | file. You will only receive an msdos command prompt as you
pointed
| out.
| |
| | Here is an example of the msdos.sys file for booting to windows:
| | [Paths]
| | WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
| | WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
| | HostWinBootDrv=C
| |
| | [Options]
| | BootMulti=1
| | BootGUI=1
| | DoubleBuffer=1
| | AutoScan=1
| | WinVer=4.10.2222
| | ;
| | ;The following lines are required for compatibility with other
| programs.
| | ;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be 1024 bytes).
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxk
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxm
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxn
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxq
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxr
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs
| |
| |
| | If you do not have a SCSI adapter, do not use the DoubleBuffer
line.
| You
| | can use the "edit" command at a dos prompt to modify the msdos.sys
| file.
| | You have to remove the attributes first from this file using the
| "attrib"
| | command. Then, after completing the edit, place attributes back
on
| the
| | file. The file should contain RHS attributes (read-only, hidden,
| system).
| | At the command prompt, enter attrib /? to learn how to use the
| switches.
| | You must designate a file location with either "edit" or "attrib".
| Example:
| | "attrib -r -h -s c:\msdos.sys". The "c:\" tells attrib to modify
the
| | msdos.sys file on the c: partition, rather than on the floppy
(a:\).
| | Attrib.exe and edit.com are not on the startup diskette, you can
| however run
| | these if you are within the c:\windows\command subdirectory at the
dos
| | prompt.
| | Sys.com is not on the startup diskette either, simply copy this
from
| the
| | c:\windows\command subdirectory to the startup diskette. Then run
the
| "sys
| | c:" from the startup diskette after booting from it.
| | You may be able to copy attrib to the startup floppy, but due to
| capacity
| | restraints of the floppy, and the size of the edit.com file, you
will
| not be
| | able to copy it to the startup diskette as is.
| | All this is a bit complicated for the novice, but is doable if you
pay
| | attention to detail and responses after entering a dos command.
| | "Robert" wrote in message
| | ...
| | In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se machines my
| children
| | (they go back to school Monday) started to delete things "they"
| thought
| | were
| | not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted but I
now
| have
| | the
| | following:
| |
| | The System:
| | Pentium w/MMX
| | 233 mhz
| | 92 ram
| | win98se
| |
| | When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid System
Disk." I
| tried
| | to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the help file
| that if I
| | saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this and it
| reported
| | back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the computer off
| (with the
| | power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to restart
the
| | computer
| | only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode this:
| "Windows
| | is
| | bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk (off of
the
| boot
| | disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to get this
unit
| | running
| | again?
| |
| | Any help would be appreciated,
| | Robert
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

I believe there are two for Win98SE at...
http://www.bootdisk.com/
.... one with & one without the EBD.cab. But both of those & the one at
"Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab" will very likely
have the same files. (The one w/o the .cab will not create a RAM disk,
as I understand it. Everything will be on A:\.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Robert" wrote in message
...
| I was using the bootdisk I created when I installed win98se. I now
have
| created a second following the direction you stated below. Do I
understand
| that both of the disks are identical?
|
|
| "Lil' Dave" wrote in message
| ...
| Oops. Well its all there, no need to copy anything to the 98SE
startup
| floppy apparently. Maybe someone got some use out of how to use
attrib
| and
| edit on the msdos.sys file.
|
|
************************************************** **********************
****
| *********
| The plain jane Win 98 command.com file is NOT the same. Go
| to
| | another PC with internet access and go to bootdisk.com website.
Find
| the
| | 98SE startup disk download. Download it, run the file. Run the
| resulting
| | file with a formatted floppy in the diskette drive. Afterwards,
you
| should
| | have 98SE startup diskette.
| |
| | The default msdos.sys for the floppy boot diskette is empty of
data.
| Using
| | "sys c:" command simply copies this to the boot sector of the c:
| partition.
| | Yours or anyone else's PC cannot boot Win 98SE using this form
of
| msdos.sys
| | file. You will only receive an msdos command prompt as you
pointed
| out.
| |
| | Here is an example of the msdos.sys file for booting to windows:
| | [Paths]
| | WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
| | WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
| | HostWinBootDrv=C
| |
| | [Options]
| | BootMulti=1
| | BootGUI=1
| | DoubleBuffer=1
| | AutoScan=1
| | WinVer=4.10.2222
| | ;
| | ;The following lines are required for compatibility with other
| programs.
| | ;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be 1024 bytes).
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
| |
|
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
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| | If you do not have a SCSI adapter, do not use the DoubleBuffer
line.
| You
| | can use the "edit" command at a dos prompt to modify the
msdos.sys
| file.
| | You have to remove the attributes first from this file using the
| "attrib"
| | command. Then, after completing the edit, place attributes back
on
| the
| | file. The file should contain RHS attributes (read-only,
hidden,
| system).
| | At the command prompt, enter attrib /? to learn how to use the
| switches.
| | You must designate a file location with either "edit" or
"attrib".
| Example:
| | "attrib -r -h -s c:\msdos.sys". The "c:\" tells attrib to
modify the
| | msdos.sys file on the c: partition, rather than on the floppy
(a:\).
| | Attrib.exe and edit.com are not on the startup diskette, you can
| however run
| | these if you are within the c:\windows\command subdirectory at
the dos
| | prompt.
| | Sys.com is not on the startup diskette either, simply copy this
from
| the
| | c:\windows\command subdirectory to the startup diskette. Then
run the
| "sys
| | c:" from the startup diskette after booting from it.
| | You may be able to copy attrib to the startup floppy, but due to
| capacity
| | restraints of the floppy, and the size of the edit.com file, you
will
| not be
| | able to copy it to the startup diskette as is.
| | All this is a bit complicated for the novice, but is doable if
you pay
| | attention to detail and responses after entering a dos command.
| | "Robert" wrote in message
| | ...
| | In an effort to open up space on one of our win98se machines
my
| children
| | (they go back to school Monday) started to delete things
"they"
| thought
| | were
| | not needed. I'm not totally sure what it was they deleted but
I now
| have
| | the
| | following:
| |
| | The System:
| | Pentium w/MMX
| | 233 mhz
| | 92 ram
| | win98se
| |
| | When I try to boot up we get the following. "Invalid System
Disk." I
| tried
| | to get it going with a win98 boot disk and read in the help
file
| that if I
| | saw the error above that I should run "SYS C:" I did this and
it
| reported
| | back that the "System Transferred". I then shut the computer
off
| (with the
| | power switch), took out the boot disk, and attempted to
restart the
| | computer
| | only to get this: "c:\" and when attempting in safe mode
this:
| "Windows
| | is
| | bypassing your startup files". I have also run Scandisk (off
of the
| boot
| | disk) and it found no errors on "C". Is it possible to get
this unit
| | running
| | again?
| |
| | Any help would be appreciated,
| | Robert
| |
| |
| |
| |
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|

Also, to appease cquirke, BETTER mention Winboot.ini !!!

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| Sure, there was plenty good in your post! I suppose you might also add
| into it the URL I have put into my own Master Post on this topic...
....snip