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Old May 12th 07, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
robert
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.
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Old May 12th 07, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Emrys Davies
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

"robert" wrote in message
...
In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as

anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points

created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the

sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang

then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check

no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move

etc.

It appears that your mouse needs cleaning. Remove its ball and wash it
in water which has a spot of washing-up liquid added to it. Rinse under
the tap and dry with a cotton rag. The mouse has rollers which become
impregnated with a band of dirt which is quite visible about midway
along the roller. Remove the dirt with a fingernail or similar.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.


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Old May 12th 07, 11:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
robert
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

I changed the mouse and the same symptoms remasins.This happen only right at
the very end after I install all the programmes (win98se,WU,install drivers,
winzip,spybot , java and play a song to test the speakers. I change to usb
mouse and its the same

"Emrys Davies" wrote:

"robert" wrote in message
...
In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as

anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points

created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the

sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang

then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check

no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move

etc.

It appears that your mouse needs cleaning. Remove its ball and wash it
in water which has a spot of washing-up liquid added to it. Rinse under
the tap and dry with a cotton rag. The mouse has rollers which become
impregnated with a band of dirt which is quite visible about midway
along the roller. Remove the dirt with a fingernail or similar.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.



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Old May 12th 07, 11:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

Is the "test speakers" step a requirement to reproduce the issue, or is that
step irrelevant. Have you tried doing it *without* testing the speakers?
What format is the sound file, what application is used to play it?

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"robert" wrote in message
...
I changed the mouse and the same symptoms remasins.This happen only right
at
the very end after I install all the programmes (win98se,WU,install
drivers,
winzip,spybot , java and play a song to test the speakers. I change to usb
mouse and its the same

"Emrys Davies" wrote:

"robert" wrote in message
...
In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as

anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points

created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the

sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang

then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check

no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move

etc.

It appears that your mouse needs cleaning. Remove its ball and wash it
in water which has a spot of washing-up liquid added to it. Rinse under
the tap and dry with a cotton rag. The mouse has rollers which become
impregnated with a band of dirt which is quite visible about midway
along the roller. Remove the dirt with a fingernail or similar.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.





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Old May 13th 07, 04:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

"robert" wrote in message
...
In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points created.


Restore Points? In Win98SE? Nope. Are you sure you mean Restore Points? Are you
sure you are referring to Win98SE?

WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.

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Old May 14th 07, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

robert wrote:
| In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
| installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as
| anti virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points
| created. WU were also done without any appearent slow down. After
| testing the sound by playing a song and reboot, it seems that the
| mouse will move then hang then able to move again. Prior to win98se
| installation the hard disk check no problem Any idea what could be
| causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.

As glee says, there are no natural restore points in Win98. Only the
Registry can be restored, unless you have a 3rd party app.

As far as a stalling mouse, is McAfee your anti-virus app? R-Clk it's
icon in the tray, & disable the auto-System Scan. Leave the others
enabled. If that cures it, here are your choices...

(1) Turn the auto-System Scan back on, & live with the stalling, which
only occurs during certain other activity, such as initially connecting
to the NET.

(2) Live without the auto-System Scan. Trust that E-Mail Scan, Download
Scan & Internet Filter will protect you. Naturally, also run a System
Scan manually on your own each time you update definitions.

(3) Uninstall McAfee & try another, such as...
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)


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Old May 18th 07, 01:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
legg
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

On Sat, 12 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, robert
wrote:

In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.


I have the same mouse symptoms in a new (~8months) W98SE installation.
This is used as a number cruncher. As it is only used for long
simulations, I've just learned to live with it.

I normally use a primary fault-free W98SE installation (8yrs without
reinstall) on another machine.

Common hardware for these systems is mouse, keyboard and monitor
through a KVM switch. The KVM switch has been replaced without
improvement, ports swapped etc. Drivers etc are pretty much the same
in both systems - using the fault-free system as reference.

If you get a cure I'd like to hear of it -remove nospam from the mail
address.

RL
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Old May 18th 07, 06:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start




"robert" wrote in message
...
| In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
| installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as anti
| virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points created.
WU
| were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the sound
by
| playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang
then
| able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check no
| problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.

How about a little information:

What model and make of computer?

What speed of CPU and how much memory?

What anti-virus, spyware, and other?

What type of mouse?

What mouse driver version, and is it specifically for the mouse you use?

What song and where did you get it?

Have you done all the updates to the system and applications?

What version of Office, and do you still have fast search turned on
[indexing]?

What programs do you have running at startup?

What version of DirectX?

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Old May 18th 07, 12:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

"legg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, robert
wrote:

In my clean installation of win98se, it seems ok at each stage of
installation in the sense that after installation of programs such as anti
virus, ms office, the moiuse seems to move ok and restor points created. WU
were also done without any appearent slow down. After testing the sound by
playing a song and reboot, it seems that the mouse will move then hang then
able to move again. Prior to win98se installation the hard disk check no
problem Any idea what could be causing the mouse to move/hang/move etc.


I have the same mouse symptoms in a new (~8months) W98SE installation.
This is used as a number cruncher. As it is only used for long
simulations, I've just learned to live with it.

I normally use a primary fault-free W98SE installation (8yrs without
reinstall) on another machine.

Common hardware for these systems is mouse, keyboard and monitor
through a KVM switch. The KVM switch has been replaced without
improvement, ports swapped etc. Drivers etc are pretty much the same
in both systems - using the fault-free system as reference.

If you get a cure I'd like to hear of it -remove nospam from the mail
address.


Is the "fault-free" system also on a KVM switch? If so, on the same KVM as the
problem system? I ask because delays with the mouse are frequent with KVMs.
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Old May 19th 07, 04:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
legg
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Default mouse seems to be able to move but stop or hang and then start

On Fri, 18 May 2007 07:37:27 -0400, "glee"
wrote:
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Common hardware for these systems is mouse, keyboard and monitor
through a KVM switch. The KVM switch has been replaced without
improvement, ports swapped etc. Drivers etc are pretty much the same
in both systems - using the fault-free system as reference.

If you get a cure I'd like to hear of it -remove nospam from the mail
address.


Is the "fault-free" system also on a KVM switch? If so, on the same KVM as the
problem system? I ask because delays with the mouse are frequent with KVMs.


Yes, both systems share the same keyboard, monitor and display through
the same KVM, and the KVM switch has been replaced by a completely
different manufacturer's model and brand, as one troubleshooting
iteration, without effect.

This effectively rules out the peripheral hardware and the KVM as
being the source of the faulty behavior of the mouse.

The fact that the new 'affected' installation is clean of most
barnacle consumer software applications could also assist in
determining a root cause. KPF and NOD32 provide security behind a
hardware router firewall. Background applications include distributed
computing, number crunching screensaver of the United Devices variety.
The latter has been provided by two different organizations; both UD
directly and Global Grid indirectly during the life of the machine
(the UD Cancer project rolled up it's carpets a few months ago).

All three of these background applications run faultlessly on the
'old' W98 2ed installation that is in daily use (in a dual boot system
with W2K).

I would not call it entirely a 'freezing' phenomenon, more an
'ignoring' one - where the mouse cursor does not reflect mouse
movement for solid time periods of less than one full second at
erratic intervals of between five to fifteen seconds. On recovery, the
frozen cursor may jump to reflect recent mouse movement during the
freeze.

Other features of other software GUIs in operation continue and their
display progresses - so it's not a total screen freeze for all
programs. CPU usage monitors continue to be updated regularly, as an
example. No memory or other resource limits are approached. All hover
around the 60% range.

RL
 




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