Antivirus software for 98

You know that you've ****ed MEB off when he doesn't full-quote you (or
even partial-quote you).

You know that you've ****ed MEB off when he doesn't full-quote you (or
even partial-quote you).

On 02/09/2010 01:22 PM, MEB wrote:
On 02/09/2010 08:18 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB wrote:

And you were a party to this distribution by full-quoting the
download location exactly - why?

To make SURE you get the "credit" for the illegal software
posting.

That makes you an accessory for aiding and facilitating.

No, sorry, doesn't work that way.


And yes, it IS illegal in all nations...

It's only "illegal" (possibly) to answer YES to the eula when you
install it.

It's not illegal to download it.

It IS illegal to *offer* it for download AND when directing to that
download for pirated software regardless of your placing such, when
suggesting it be done AND providing the "password" to use it. This isn't
Tor or onion activities, nor is this alt.binaries or similar; this
happens to be a registered group pf Microsoft's in which you have
directed to one of its long standing working partner's pirated software.
And in which you apparently modified the downloads from JUST segments
to the FULL CD, and then separate smaller downloads, as displayed by
your own postings in this group.
Moreover, in a group in which *you* previously posted links to pirated
Microsoft Windows versions; hence displaying your deep routed and
distinctly apparent direct participation in software piracy.


So readers will note that 98 Guy, as USUAL, spewed the normal Usenutter
tripe and garbage while seeking accolades for the lunacy that makes up
the life of the entity.

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On 02/09/2010 01:22 PM, MEB wrote:
On 02/09/2010 08:18 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB wrote:

And you were a party to this distribution by full-quoting the
download location exactly - why?

To make SURE you get the "credit" for the illegal software
posting.

That makes you an accessory for aiding and facilitating.

No, sorry, doesn't work that way.


And yes, it IS illegal in all nations...

It's only "illegal" (possibly) to answer YES to the eula when you
install it.

It's not illegal to download it.

It IS illegal to *offer* it for download AND when directing to that
download for pirated software regardless of your placing such, when
suggesting it be done AND providing the "password" to use it. This isn't
Tor or onion activities, nor is this alt.binaries or similar; this
happens to be a registered group pf Microsoft's in which you have
directed to one of its long standing working partner's pirated software.
And in which you apparently modified the downloads from JUST segments
to the FULL CD, and then separate smaller downloads, as displayed by
your own postings in this group.
Moreover, in a group in which *you* previously posted links to pirated
Microsoft Windows versions; hence displaying your deep routed and
distinctly apparent direct participation in software piracy.


So readers will note that 98 Guy, as USUAL, spewed the normal Usenutter
tripe and garbage while seeking accolades for the lunacy that makes up
the life of the entity.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

You DAM if you Do and You Dam if if Don't know!
So why do a Dam thing like that for
Do you Reminder that my Son have a Bed for you in Jail
and look foreword in seeing you there 98Guy



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
MEB wrote:

This isn't Tor or onion activities

What's an "onion activity"?

Are you playing with your food again?

nor is this alt.binaries or similar;

Nor did I treat it as such, since I did not post binary material.

this happens to be a registered group of Microsoft's

Where did Microsoft register this group? What authoritative body
accepted and processed Microsoft's registration of this group?

in which you have directed to one of its long standing
working partner's pirated software.

Micro$haft can kiss my aa.s.

And in which you apparently modified the downloads ...

Who sez I put those files there?

Did you download them?

Moreover, in a group in which *you* previously posted links
to pirated Microsoft Windows versions;

I posted links to .torrent files where people can download ISO copies of
Windows-98 Second Edition.

Let's see if those links are still functional:

http://dl5.torrentreactor.net/downlo...+CD+%2B+CD+Key

Yup. Still functional. Let see how many seeders and peers there are
...

(this is gonna take a few minutes - hang on)

Ok, I'm seeing about 158 seeders, but only connected to about 60 of
them. My download speed is not that good (about 40 kb/sec). At this
rate, it's gonna take me about 4 hours to download. I'm connected to
about 7 out of 355 peers, and my upload rate is about 5 kb/sec.

That's right MEB. 355 people are downloading a Windows 98se CD from 158
other people that have the entire file. If Macro$haft doesn't want to
sell Win-98 any more, then they can't complain about the fact that
people are sharing it like crazy with each other.

hence displaying your deep routed and distinctly apparent
direct participation in software piracy.

Me and about a thousand million other people. Do you know how much
music I downloaded from RapidShare this past weekend? About 5-gb worth.

And by the way, your foul attitude in microsoft.public.security.virus
won't win you any friends there either. Luser.

You DAM if you Do and You Dam if if Don't know!
So why do a Dam thing like that for
Do you Reminder that my Son have a Bed for you in Jail
and look foreword in seeing you there 98Guy



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
MEB wrote:

This isn't Tor or onion activities

What's an "onion activity"?

Are you playing with your food again?

nor is this alt.binaries or similar;

Nor did I treat it as such, since I did not post binary material.

this happens to be a registered group of Microsoft's

Where did Microsoft register this group? What authoritative body
accepted and processed Microsoft's registration of this group?

in which you have directed to one of its long standing
working partner's pirated software.

Micro$haft can kiss my aa.s.

And in which you apparently modified the downloads ...

Who sez I put those files there?

Did you download them?

Moreover, in a group in which *you* previously posted links
to pirated Microsoft Windows versions;

I posted links to .torrent files where people can download ISO copies of
Windows-98 Second Edition.

Let's see if those links are still functional:

http://dl5.torrentreactor.net/downlo...+CD+%2B+CD+Key

Yup. Still functional. Let see how many seeders and peers there are
...

(this is gonna take a few minutes - hang on)

Ok, I'm seeing about 158 seeders, but only connected to about 60 of
them. My download speed is not that good (about 40 kb/sec). At this
rate, it's gonna take me about 4 hours to download. I'm connected to
about 7 out of 355 peers, and my upload rate is about 5 kb/sec.

That's right MEB. 355 people are downloading a Windows 98se CD from 158
other people that have the entire file. If Macro$haft doesn't want to
sell Win-98 any more, then they can't complain about the fact that
people are sharing it like crazy with each other.

hence displaying your deep routed and distinctly apparent
direct participation in software piracy.

Me and about a thousand million other people. Do you know how much
music I downloaded from RapidShare this past weekend? About 5-gb worth.

And by the way, your foul attitude in microsoft.public.security.virus
won't win you any friends there either. Luser.

Hello:

As I understand it, Norton Antivirus 2002 is no longer supported with new
definition updates. It appears that Norton AV 2003 is the earliest version
that is still receiving updates, and it seems that it doesn't support
Windows 98/ME. (See:
http://www.symantec.com/business/sec...il.jsp?gid=n95 )
..

Cheers,
Jerry

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Can I ask why you pussies are continuing this anti-virus thread for so
long?

I've posted links to where you can download Norton Anti-virus 2002 for
FREE, which IS COMPATIBLE with windows 98 and for which you can still
download functional virus definition files FOR FREE.

And I still shake my head and wonder why you PUSSIES are so paranoid
about viruses and win-98 in the first place - given that you probably
haven't seen a virus on your systems for years (and you pussies are
probably on dial-up anyways) ...

Hello:

As I understand it, Norton Antivirus 2002 is no longer supported with new
definition updates. It appears that Norton AV 2003 is the earliest version
that is still receiving updates, and it seems that it doesn't support
Windows 98/ME. (See:
http://www.symantec.com/business/sec...il.jsp?gid=n95 )
..

Cheers,
Jerry

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Can I ask why you pussies are continuing this anti-virus thread for so
long?

I've posted links to where you can download Norton Anti-virus 2002 for
FREE, which IS COMPATIBLE with windows 98 and for which you can still
download functional virus definition files FOR FREE.

And I still shake my head and wonder why you PUSSIES are so paranoid
about viruses and win-98 in the first place - given that you probably
haven't seen a virus on your systems for years (and you pussies are
probably on dial-up anyways) ...

Jerry Martin top-poasted:

As I understand it, Norton Antivirus 2002 is no longer supported
with new definition updates.

Symantec has something called the Intelligent Updater package. It's a
file that is updated once per day that contains update files for many
Norton/Symantec products. It can be manually downloaded as often as you
feel is necessary in order to perform a virus definition update for NAV
2002. Note - Symantec's writeup for the Intelligent Updater does not
mention that it works for NAV 2002, but it does.

The link for the Intelligent Updater package is this:

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

You might want to put that on your desktop as a handy link (assuming you
download and install NAV 2002 as described below).

It appears that Norton AV 2003 is the earliest version that is
still receiving updates, and it seems that it doesn't support
Windows 98/ME.

NAV 2003 will probably run on Win-98, but it's a more bloated piece of
software compared to NAV 2002, and much more difficult to
uninstall/remove when necessary.

NAV 2002 does not require activation of any sort. Once it's installed,
it will accept definition updates for a 1-year period. Once that 1-year
period is over, it will continue to function, but it won't accept any
new definition file updates. To start another 1-year period of full
functionality, all you need to do is uninstall and reinstall it. The
important thing to remember is to delete the file
"catalog.livesubscribe" prior to reinstallation (the uninstall process
will not delete that file). Search your hard drive for that file and
delete it prior to reinstallation. If you have more than one computer
with NAV 2002 installed on it, all you need to do is copy the file
"catalog.livesubscribe" from one computer to another to transfer the
expiry date to other computers without needing to reinstall NAV on each
of them.

It's my opinion that Windows-98 systems don't really need to be running
anti-virus programs these days because malware (viruses, trojans, etc)
are usually written to be OS-specific (ie they are written such that
they need to be run on a Windows NT, 2K, XP, etc computer to function
correctly). The protection gained from modern AV software is mostly in
the mind of the user, because new threats can take anywhere from several
weeks to several months to become incorporated into definition file
updates.

But anyways, here is what I posted recently regarding NAV 2002 and where
to download it from:

-------------------------------

The Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD can be downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent Updater):

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

5) After installing NSW 2002, you'll see that NAV 2002 will accept new
virus definition files for the next 366 days. After that, the
Intelligent Updater will not update the product. But that's ok, because
all you need to do is un-install and re-install NSW 2002 to get another
year's worth of functionality (so don't delete these files once you
download them! Keep them on your hard drive or burn them to a CD). One
thing to remember is that after uninstalling it, you will need to delete
the file "catalog.livesubscribe" in order to re-install and re-activate
it for another year.

6) If you have a large hard drive and/or if you've got a FAT-32 volume
with more than the usual 4 million clusters (perhaps a SATA or USB
drive), Norton Disk Doctor and Norton Speed disk are compatible with
volumes with up to 6.3 million clusters, but not more without using the
command-line parameter /NOLBA. When using this parameter, the upper
limit for NDD and SD is somewhere between 7.8 and 31 million clusters.
The switch /NOLBA forces NDD and SD to skip the drive configuration
check. This can also be done with a registry entry by adding a DWORD
registry value named NOLBACHECK at this location:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Symantec\Norton Utilities

When this option is set to 1, Norton Disk Doctor and Speed Disk skip the
drive configuration check.

5) BTW, NAV 2002 runs fine on Win-2K and XP (sp1, 2 and 3).

Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD includes:

- Norton CleanSweep 2002
- Norton AntiVirus 2002
- Norton Utilities 2002
- Roxio GoBack 3.0
- FastSafe (Fast & Safe Cleanup)
- Symantec Process Viewer
- Norton Rescue Disk version 15.0
- Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.50.4134.600

Enjoy

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...

Note - Symantec's writeup for the Intelligent Updater does not
mention that it works for NAV 2002, but it does.


Hello:

Thanks for the info, including the warning about NAV 2003 being bloated.

I think that your line above explains why I became confused.

As a note, new copies of Norton AV 2002 can be had very inexpensively on
eBay. There also may be some copies of NAV 2003 for sale there.

Cheers,
Jerry