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June 9th 04, 05:50 AM
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OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post.
Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with them in a proper manner. Thanks. Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big it was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from failed installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so those will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been importing some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my present OE newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I can definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for any existing OE account. I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side by side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there were discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being void of any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be critical though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to arrive at something conclusive. I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly having to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an hour of the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with profile password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening all of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that from occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected happening that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the problem, but might have opened some applications or something might have been (like PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course might well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me. a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno again. ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe? g b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common history of the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that could be trickier to determine. c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but there is a lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed. Thus far, although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it elsewhere) of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any *obvious* troubles. d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will aid me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm doing. Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line too, so...... ;-) LS ------------------------- "PCR" wrote in message ... EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you didn't install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't really know)... Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone to the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing exclusively there (unless you left it out). The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on to the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into the Default. I'm thinking... (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any left that you haven't insulted? (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other. (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,... http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp How to Disable and Delete User Profiles ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there. ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with their Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose changes that occurred while logged onto the Profile. (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder with files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go look to see what may need to be done in the Registry. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR 
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June 9th 04, 07:26 PM
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I'm afraid I don't quite understand the answer to your question on the size
of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList Registry key. There is but one entry - (Default) (value not set) for that key. The User folder -subunit to the ProfileList key-(which I temporarily placed back in there) has three: (default) (value not set) Bad local (01 00 00 00) Profile Image path C:Windows\Profiles\User But no size is indicated. Rest of my comments/replies in-line. "PCR" wrote in message ... Well, your work is cut out for you. You are doing well with the OE .dbx. How large is that Registry key... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList Does it seem to be clearly subdivided by the apps which were installed? If it is small enough, show me an Export. No...I don't think so. It is as I stated above if I understood you correctly. Still wanna see an "Export"? | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), Surely you would have to remember THAT MANY. Therefore, it must be you installed them all into Default, & Windows copied them from there into the Profile. That is how to share apps with all Profiles, I think I've read. Lucky you had only the one extra Profile! Yes; that makes sense. I think I would have remembered installing that many. Plus, I'm unlikely to have done that (installing stuff) when getting the unexpected Boot-up - Log-on message. Something like that would have halted me in my tracks; changed my plans for PC work that day, until I had "figured it out, and fixed" what was wrong. I suppose, then, every time you logged on as Default, changes went to both places. But when you logged on as that Profile, changes went only there. But all I can do is guess at it. Where is the MVP in charge of Profiles off to? | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident A single incident did all this?!? Well, I guess, once the Profile was established, Windows automatically copied everything from the Default Profile to the new one, just to start it off. I seem to recollect having this Log-on thing happen twice in the history of this PC. I think I suffered a major crash in between the first time and the most recent one though. The last instance of this was (just a guess) maybe 3 or 4 months ago, where it asked for a log-on password/name. | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up I guess everything done while logged onto the Profile was registered only there. And that accounts for the file differences. More than likely (I guess). | WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me. I don't know. Can it happen from deleting password (.pwl) file? Is it worth a look in the MSKB? When I "Control Panel, Users", it seems nothing happens, until one clicks "Next". I haven't done that since my crash of 2001, & I certainly won't do it now. I only did the delete password thing once IIRC. That was only during this last instance, but it's all a bit foggy to me now. For the CPUsers I get the same as you. Must click "Next" for something to happen. I don't bother with it, and don't remember ever setting up that utility accessory. I would have no reason to delete a password, log on name if I didn't have one and use one. As I've said, this has always been a "Windows Log-on" machine, except when for no good reason, it arbitrarily decided to ask for a name/password at Cold Boot. http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB Search "User Profiles"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; didn't quickly answer your question. However, this article is interesting... http://support.microsoft.com/default...30&Product=w98 Missing Settings After Disabling the User Profiles Option (130330) - When you disable the user profiles option, some icons may be missing from the desktop or the Start menu. This may or may not have happened. I don't remember now. But I can say this (not really related, but interesting anyway...I think) One day I stumbled upon some interesting sites and made a "million" shortcuts to the desktop. The desktop must have gotten pretty full as the "names" of some of the shortcuts were rather long. So, after a while I placed these shortcuts in appropriate folders for their respective use, however, there seemed to be fewer shortcuts than the number I thought I had created. Later, after a re-boot the desktop was again full of more shortcuts from the earlier "shortcut spree". I placed those (which were different from those already placed) in their folders. Later on re-booted again, and there were still 4 or 5 more of those shortcuts which appeared on the desktop. So, what I'm saying is if you make 50 (or whatever number) shortcuts, and they don't fit on the desktop, they must "hide" offsceen (or somewhere) only to re-appear when there's space for them. Now, back to the "Profile Icons may disappear (from start menu or desktop). This could have happened at one time for maybe 1 or 2 programs or folders, but I don't recall. | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common history of | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it elsewhere) | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any *obvious* | troubles. My best belief is you are now exclusively using the Default Profile-- "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data", because you did the first half of... http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp How to Disable and Delete User Profiles I tend to agree with your suppostion. We'll see what the next few days (of slow progress) will reveal. Anyway, I've been trying to proceed slowly, and see what I've got, etc. Since it is that size and is in there already, I'm just going to try and take my time ad see what is what. Then delete or remove that which is *identical* in every respect. First, get rid of the un-needed .dbx things after I sift through what may be of use. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... | OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post. | | Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with them in | a proper manner. Thanks. | | Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big it | was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from failed | installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so those | will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been importing | some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my present OE | newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I can | definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for any | existing OE account. | | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side by | side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there were | discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being void of | any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be critical | though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to arrive at | something conclusive. | | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly having | to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an hour of | the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with profile | password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening all | of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that from | occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected happening | that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the problem, but | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course might | well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me. | | a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno again. | ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe? g | | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common history of | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the | subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that could be | trickier to determine. | | c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but there is a | lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed. Thus far, | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it elsewhere) | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any *obvious* | troubles. | | d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any | entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will aid | me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm doing. | | Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line too, | so...... ;-) | | LS | ------------------------- | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you didn't | install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't really | know)... | | Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone to | the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did | install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing | exclusively there (unless you left it out). | | The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on to | the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into the | Default. I'm thinking... | | (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any | left that you haven't insulted? | | (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual | Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other. | | (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,... | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there. | ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with their | Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific | Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose changes | that occurred while logged onto the Profile. | | (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder with | files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go look | to see what may need to be done in the Registry. | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | |
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June 9th 04, 09:32 PM
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That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I
believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore, icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt it has to do with anything. Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just, Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article. I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened. Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do that... http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp How to Disable and Delete User Profiles ....both steps, I guess! Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... | I'm afraid I don't quite understand the answer to your question on the size | of the | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList | Registry key. | | There is but one entry - (Default) (value not set) for that key. The User | folder -subunit to the ProfileList key-(which I temporarily placed back in | there) has three: | (default) (value not set) | Bad local (01 00 00 00) | Profile Image path C:Windows\Profiles\User | | But no size is indicated. Rest of my comments/replies in-line. | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | Well, your work is cut out for you. You are doing well with the OE ..dbx. | How large is that Registry key... | | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList | | Does it seem to be clearly subdivided by the apps which were installed? | If it is small enough, show me an Export. | | No...I don't think so. It is as I stated above if I understood you | correctly. Still wanna see an "Export"? | | | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), | | Surely you would have to remember THAT MANY. Therefore, it must be you | installed them all into Default, & Windows copied them from there into | the Profile. That is how to share apps with all Profiles, I think I've | read. Lucky you had only the one extra Profile! | | Yes; that makes sense. I think I would have remembered installing that many. | Plus, I'm unlikely to have done that (installing stuff) when getting the | unexpected Boot-up - Log-on message. Something like that would have halted | me in my tracks; changed my plans for PC work that day, until I had "figured | it out, and fixed" what was wrong. | | I suppose, then, every time you logged on as Default, changes went to | both places. But when you logged on as that Profile, changes went only | there. But all I can do is guess at it. Where is the MVP in charge of | Profiles off to? | | | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident | | A single incident did all this?!? Well, I guess, once the Profile was | established, Windows automatically copied everything from the Default | Profile to the new one, just to start it off. | | I seem to recollect having this Log-on thing happen twice in the history of | this PC. I think I suffered a major crash in between the first time and the | most recent one though. The last instance of this was (just a guess) maybe 3 | or 4 months ago, where it asked for a log-on password/name. | | | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like | | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up | | I guess everything done while logged onto the Profile was registered | only there. And that accounts for the file differences. | | More than likely (I guess). | | | WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never | | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me. | | I don't know. Can it happen from deleting password (.pwl) file? Is it | worth a look in the MSKB? When I "Control Panel, Users", it seems | nothing happens, until one clicks "Next". I haven't done that since my | crash of 2001, & I certainly won't do it now. | | I only did the delete password thing once IIRC. That was only during this | last instance, but it's all a bit foggy to me now. For the CPUsers I get | the same as you. Must click "Next" for something to happen. I don't bother | with it, and don't remember ever setting up that utility accessory. I would | have no reason to delete a password, log on name if I didn't have one and | use one. As I've said, this has always been a "Windows Log-on" machine, | except when for no good reason, it arbitrarily decided to ask for a | name/password at Cold Boot. | | http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB | Search "User Profiles"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; didn't | quickly answer your question. However, this article is interesting... | | http://support.microsoft.com/default...30&Product=w98 | Missing Settings After Disabling the User Profiles Option | (130330) - When you disable the user profiles option, some icons may be | missing from the desktop or the Start menu. | | This may or may not have happened. I don't remember now. But I can say this | (not really related, but interesting anyway...I think) One day I stumbled | upon some interesting sites and made a "million" shortcuts to the desktop. | The desktop must have gotten pretty full as the "names" of some of the | shortcuts were rather long. So, after a while I placed these shortcuts in | appropriate folders for their respective use, however, there seemed to be | fewer shortcuts than the number I thought I had created. Later, after a | re-boot the desktop was again full of more shortcuts from the earlier | "shortcut spree". I placed those (which were different from those already | placed) in their folders. Later on re-booted again, and there were still 4 | or 5 more of those shortcuts which appeared on the desktop. So, what I'm | saying is if you make 50 (or whatever number) shortcuts, and they don't fit | on the desktop, they must "hide" offsceen (or somewhere) only to re-appear | when there's space for them. | | Now, back to the "Profile Icons may disappear (from start menu or desktop). | This could have happened at one time for maybe 1 or 2 programs or folders, | but I don't recall. | | | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common | history of | | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. | | | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it | elsewhere) | | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any | *obvious* | | troubles. | | My best belief is you are now exclusively using the Default Profile-- | "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data", because you did the first half of... | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | | I tend to agree with your suppostion. We'll see what the next few days (of | slow progress) will reveal. Anyway, I've been trying to proceed slowly, and | see what I've got, etc. Since it is that size and is in there already, I'm | just going to try and take my time ad see what is what. Then delete or | remove that which is *identical* in every respect. First, get rid of the | un-needed .dbx things after I sift through what may be of use. | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "LuckyStrike" om | wrote in message ... | | OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post. | | | | Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with | them in | | a proper manner. Thanks. | | | | Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big | it | | was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from | failed | | installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so | those | | will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been | importing | | some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my | present OE | | newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I | can | | definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for | any | | existing OE account. | | | | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side | by | | side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there | were | | discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being | void of | | any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be | critical | | though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to | arrive at | | something conclusive. | | | | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly | having | | to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an | hour of | | the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with | profile | | password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening | all | | of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that | from | | occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected | happening | | that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the | problem, but | | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like | | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course | might | | well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I | never | | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me. | | | | a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno | again. | | ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe? | g | | | | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common | history of | | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the | | subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that | could be | | trickier to determine. | | | | c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but | there is a | | lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed. | Thus far, | | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it | elsewhere) | | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any | *obvious* | | troubles. | | | | d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any | | entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will | aid | | me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm | doing. | | | | Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line | too, | | so...... ;-) | | | | LS | | ------------------------- | | | | "PCR" wrote in message | | ... | | EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you | didn't | | install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't | really | | know)... | | | | Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone | to | | the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did | | install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing | | exclusively there (unless you left it out). | | | | The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on | to | | the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into | the | | Default. I'm thinking... | | | | (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any | | left that you haven't insulted? | | | | (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual | | Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other. | | | | (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,... | | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | | ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there. | | ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with | their | | Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific | | Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose | changes | | that occurred while logged onto the Profile. | | | | (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder | with | | files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go | look | | to see what may need to be done in the Registry. | | | | | | -- | | Thanks or Good Luck, | | There may be humor in this post, and, | | Naturally, you will not sue, | | should things get worse after this, | | PCR | | | | | | | | | |
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June 9th 04, 09:55 PM
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It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being
prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks for all the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event you're still interested g) when things are "done". Should this instance ever arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't do that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to answer this. g) BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side only) than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact that one can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the left, top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine. LS -------------------------- "PCR" wrote in message ... That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore, icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt it has to do with anything. Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just, Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article. I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened. Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do that... http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp How to Disable and Delete User Profiles ...both steps, I guess! Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR
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June 10th 04, 02:06 AM
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You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody give
me no bad news! OK, bye. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... | It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being | prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks for all | the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event you're | still interested g) when things are "done". Should this instance ever | arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't do | that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to answer | this. g) | | BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side only) | than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact that one | can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the left, | top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine. | | LS | -------------------------- | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I | believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore, | icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt it | has to do with anything. | | Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex than I | thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just, | Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article. | | I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause of | this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened. | Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do | that... | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | ...both steps, I guess! | | Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you deleted | the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing well, | to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it! | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | |
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June 16th 04, 05:24 PM
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Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of
C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning the useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing well. Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple) items and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a slow "I don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and sometimes the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-) -- LuckyStrike -------------------------------------------------------------------- "PCR" wrote in message ... You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody give me no bad news! OK, bye. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" wrote: | It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being | prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks for all | the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event you're | still interested g) when things are "done". Should this instance ever | arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't do | that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to answer | this. g) | | BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side only) | than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact that one | can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the left, | top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine. | | LS | -------------------------- | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I | believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore, | icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt | it has to do with anything. | | Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex | than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just, | Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article. | | I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause | of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened. | Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do | that... | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | ...both steps, I guess! | | Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you | deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing | well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it! | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | |
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June 16th 04, 08:56 PM
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| to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)
I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to look, & it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going right. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... | Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of | C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning the | useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing well. | Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple) items | and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a slow "I | don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and sometimes | the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + | so far. :-) | -- | LuckyStrike | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody give | me no bad news! OK, bye. | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "LuckyStrike" wrote: | | It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being | | prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks | for all | | the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event | you're | | still interested g) when things are "done". Should this instance | ever | | arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't | do | | that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to | answer | | this. g) | | | | BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side | only) | | than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact | that one | | can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the | left, | | top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine. | | | | LS | | -------------------------- | | "PCR" wrote in message | | ... | | That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But | I | | believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore, | | icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt | | it has to do with anything. | | | | Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex | | than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. | Just, | | Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article. | | | | I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause | | of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has | happened. | | Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do | | that... | | http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp | | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles | | ...both steps, I guess! | | | | Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you | | deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are | doing | | well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it! | | -- | | Thanks or Good Luck, | | There may be humor in this post, and, | | Naturally, you will not sue, | | should things get worse after this, | | PCR | | | | | |
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June 16th 04, 10:51 PM
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No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG figure is
from the all over the C  rive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicate stuff inthere. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear after some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2 CD's. I guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-) Anyway, it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by comparison. Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly. LS --------------------------- "PCR" wrote in message ... | to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-) I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to look, & it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going right. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" wrote: | Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of | C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning the | useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing well. | Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple) items | and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a slow "I | don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and sometimes | the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + | so far. :-) | -- | LuckyStrike |--------------------------------------------------------------------
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June 17th 04, 01:39 AM
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Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer? Are you
suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you deleting them at Windows DOS? Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of the things I should do! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... | No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG figure is | from the all over the C rive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicatestuff in | there. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear after | some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2 CD's. I | guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-) Anyway, | it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by comparison. | | Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly. | | LS | --------------------------- | | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | | to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-) | | I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to look, & | it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going right. | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "LuckyStrike" wrote: | | Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of | | C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning | the | | useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing | well. | | Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple) | items | | and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a | slow "I | | don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and | sometimes | | the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff. | 2.7GB + | | so far. :-) | | -- | | LuckyStrike | |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
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