Notepad and Word

Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

The parts of the process you have described are not relevant to your
question. The relevant bit is the option you choose when you save the WORD
file. If you are saving the file as plain text you will be able to access
it when you get home. WORD should save as plain text by default for files
that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some
formatting might be lost. That doesn't worry you, as Notepad doesn't support
formatting anyway.

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the
default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save
like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be
OK when you use the file with Notepad.

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special
/ Plain text.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"Lee" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Hello Jeff,

Thank you so much for your information and suggestions.

WORD should save as plain text by default for files
that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning
that some formatting might be lost.

I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost. I
know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been
clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do
this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah!

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting
Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the
file type to plain text. If you save like this, then
open the file again and the text is there, then it will
be OK when you use the file with Notepad.

I will try this!

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting
Edit / Paste Special / Plain text.

I will try this too!

Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help!

Lee



-----Original Message-----
The parts of the process you have described are not
relevant to your
question. The relevant bit is the option you choose
when you save the WORD
file. If you are saving the file as plain text you will
be able to access
it when you get home. WORD should save as plain text by
default for files
that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning
that some
formatting might be lost. That doesn't worry you, as
Notepad doesn't support
formatting anyway.

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting
Save As, accepting the
default filename, but changing the file type to plain
text. If you save
like this, then open the file again and the text is
there, then it will be
OK when you use the file with Notepad.

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting
Edit / Paste Special
/ Plain text.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"Lee" wrote in
message
...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups.
I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition
and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library
that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then
I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are
on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of
the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard
image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using
Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help
me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy
98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee



.

You're welcome. One small word of warning however - WORD has a reputation
for being unreliable when you open a file from floppy. This might only be
when the file size is large, or when the file is in WORD format, but if
possible I would recommend that you copy from floppy to hard disk, then open
from hard disk, make the changes, save to hard disk and copy back to floppy.

Of course, the library might not allow this, and it does have the risk that
you forget the last step and leave the file behind! So another option is to
create a backup copy on floppy before you start editing in WORD, just in
case it crashes and takes out the copy you are working on..
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"Lee" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff,

Thank you so much for your information and suggestions.

WORD should save as plain text by default for files
that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning
that some formatting might be lost.

I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost. I
know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been
clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do
this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah!

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting
Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the
file type to plain text. If you save like this, then
open the file again and the text is there, then it will
be OK when you use the file with Notepad.

I will try this!

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting
Edit / Paste Special / Plain text.

I will try this too!

Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help!

Lee

"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to save
the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as
file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make
a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like
the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering
overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad
can not deal with.

"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to save
the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as
file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make
a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like
the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering
overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad
can not deal with.

"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad? Could put a copy
of Notepad on your floppy and run it from there? It's only 53k on my
computer.

Hi again Jeff,

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting
Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the
file type to plain text. If you save like this, then
open the file again and the text is there, then it will
be OK when you use the file with Notepad.

Yup, this works just fine. Thanks!

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting
Edit / Paste Special / Plain text.

Don't know why but this didn't work. I did Edit Paste
Special Unformatted Text (no "Plain text" option given).
I still get those __|'s. Any thoughts?

I would recommend that you copy from floppy to hard
disk, then open from hard disk, make the changes, save to
hard disk and copy back to floppy. Of course, the library
might not allow this ...

You're correct. The library will not allow this.

another option is to create a backup copy on floppy
before you start editing in WORD, just in case it crashes
and takes out the copy you are working on..

Yes, I do have a backup of everything I've been saving
and working on. Just in case. And yes, I have needed it.
I lost everything once already. Some glitch on the system
here --WORD doesn't always save as plain text by default
for files that use a TXT extension. It went ahead and
made a totally unusable and unfixable mess of my file. So
glad I had the backup!

Once again, thanks. Your help is great and much
appreciated.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
You're welcome. One small word of warning however - WORD
has a reputation
for being unreliable when you open a file from floppy.
This might only be
when the file size is large, or when the file is in WORD
format, but if
possible I would recommend that you copy from floppy to
hard disk, then open
from hard disk, make the changes, save to hard disk and
copy back to floppy.

Of course, the library might not allow this, and it does
have the risk that
you forget the last step and leave the file behind! So
another option is to
create a backup copy on floppy before you start editing
in WORD, just in
case it crashes and takes out the copy you are working
on..
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"Lee" wrote in
message
...
Hello Jeff,

Thank you so much for your information and suggestions.

WORD should save as plain text by default for files
that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a
warning
that some formatting might be lost.

I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost.
I
know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been
clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do
this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah!

You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting
Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing
the
file type to plain text. If you save like this, then
open the file again and the text is there, then it will
be OK when you use the file with Notepad.

I will try this!

You can avoid the odd results from pasting by
selecting
Edit / Paste Special / Plain text.

I will try this too!

Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help!

Lee


.

Hi Lee,
(yes, readers, there are two different Lee's in this
thread

You should be fine IF when it comes time to save
the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as
file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make
a .doc file out it.

Yes, I've been using .txt. I don't even have Word on my
home computer. I have Works (the version prior to when
Word was included with the Works suite).

I use .rtf at home a lot. Works fine for me!

Thank you.
Lee

-----Original Message-----
"Lee" wrote in
message ...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups.
I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition
and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library
that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then
I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are
on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of
the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard
image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks
into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because
I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using
Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help
me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy
98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to
save
the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as
file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make
a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like
the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering
overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad
can not deal with.
.

Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad?
Could put a copy of Notepad on your floppy and run it
from there? It's only 53k on my computer.

Interesting idea. I asked about doing this and they said
no. City of about 270,000 with 5 libraries. The library I
use has 18 computers. No time limit on any of them. Nice,
but they lock down a lot. Can't even send anything to the
desktop here. Even the library techs are unhappy with
some of the restrictions.

-----Original Message-----
"Lee" wrote in
message ...
Hello,

I am away from home and dependent upon computers at
public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups.
I
like to copy information from my newsletters and from
these and other newsgroups and paste it into already
created notepad files that are on floppy disks.

On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition
and a
Works word processor. Right now the public library
that I
visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use
Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word.

I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and
newsletters by doing the following:

-- Highlight and copy the information I want
-- Minimize the screen that has the information that I
want
-- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created
notepad files.
-- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's
opening screen. A new Word document appears on the
taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then
I
do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are
on
my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I
want to paste the information into and then do Copy
Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of
the
pasted information and some sort of small clipboard
image
appears. The text is there too.

Will I be able to access all of this saved information
when I get back home and insert these floppy disks
into
my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because
I
am pasting information into a notepad file by using
Word.
And I don't have Word on my home machine.

Sure would appreciate any information that would help
me
be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to
access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy
98SE
machine!

Thank you very much.

Lee

Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad?
Could put a copy
of Notepad on your floppy and run it from there? It's
only 53k on my
computer.
.