Issues regarding install

I had a failed ME in a Dell Dimension L700CXE, will replace with W98SE.
First I formatted from a W98SE boot disk.

Next I tried my upgrade W98Se install CD. It said there was no previous
MS product present.

I always understood in this ng that it is never a good idea to install
*over* a previous install. I'm sure in the past I used that CD, but never
on top of an OS.

So when can you use the upgrade CD?

I then used my "never had windows before" CD and installed ok.

During the install, it started asking for lots of useful files like ftp,
network, etc, maybe 20 files. It would not browse to the CD, kept looking
in a windows folder (setup IIRC), not finding the files, I finally
proceeded and it finished install.

Why on install from the CD, does it stop looking there and start looking
in a windows folder?

How to find what are missing files now, and install from the CD- I assume
they must be there?

Now on bootup, I get an error screen: "missing vnet.bios.vxd", enter and
windows starts. Where to find that file and where to install it?

In Device manager, a question mark for PCI System Management Bus

What kind of a device is this, I will need to find a driver for it, and
the PCI multimedia audio driver.

ms

It is generally not a good idea to upgrade a *used* system unless it is
running flawlessly or, in your case, it is a fresh installation of the OS
you are upgrading. An upgrade CD can be used for installing on a blank HD
if you have a qualifying CD (for example, W95 CD) that you can insert when
asked during setup.

Since you skipped files, I would format the drive and start over. When it
asks for a file, click on details (I believe, it's been a long time since I
loaded 98) to see where the file should be and then browse to that location.
The problem is that Setup is probably looking in the wrong place.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"ms" wrote in message
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I had a failed ME in a Dell Dimension L700CXE, will replace with W98SE.
First I formatted from a W98SE boot disk.

Next I tried my upgrade W98Se install CD. It said there was no previous
MS product present.

I always understood in this ng that it is never a good idea to install
*over* a previous install. I'm sure in the past I used that CD, but never
on top of an OS.

So when can you use the upgrade CD?

I then used my "never had windows before" CD and installed ok.

During the install, it started asking for lots of useful files like ftp,
network, etc, maybe 20 files. It would not browse to the CD, kept looking
in a windows folder (setup IIRC), not finding the files, I finally
proceeded and it finished install.

Why on install from the CD, does it stop looking there and start looking
in a windows folder?

How to find what are missing files now, and install from the CD- I assume
they must be there?

Now on bootup, I get an error screen: "missing vnet.bios.vxd", enter and
windows starts. Where to find that file and where to install it?

In Device manager, a question mark for PCI System Management Bus

What kind of a device is this, I will need to find a driver for it, and
the PCI multimedia audio driver.

ms

"ms" wrote in message
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I had a failed ME in a Dell Dimension L700CXE, will replace with W98SE.
First I formatted from a W98SE boot disk.

Next I tried my upgrade W98Se install CD. It said there was no previous
MS product present.

I always understood in this ng that it is never a good idea to install
*over* a previous install. I'm sure in the past I used that CD, but never
on top of an OS.

So when can you use the upgrade CD?



You *can* perform a fresh install of win98 with the upgrade disk...
but it will ask you to insert a cd with the previous product...so
you will need an old win95 cd...
If you don;t have one maybe you have a friend that would give you one

"philo" wrote in
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"ms" wrote in message
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I had a failed ME in a Dell Dimension L700CXE, will replace with
W98SE. First I formatted from a W98SE boot disk.

Next I tried my upgrade W98Se install CD. It said there was no
previous MS product present.

I always understood in this ng that it is never a good idea to
install *over* a previous install. I'm sure in the past I used that
CD, but never on top of an OS.

So when can you use the upgrade CD?



You *can* perform a fresh install of win98 with the upgrade disk...
but it will ask you to insert a cd with the previous product...so
you will need an old win95 cd...
If you don;t have one maybe you have a friend that would give you one



I have one.

ms

"Ron Badour" wrote in
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It is generally not a good idea to upgrade a *used* system unless it
is running flawlessly or, in your case, it is a fresh installation of
the OS you are upgrading. An upgrade CD can be used for installing on
a blank HD if you have a qualifying CD (for example, W95 CD) that you
can insert when asked during setup.

Since you skipped files, I would format the drive and start over.
When it asks for a file, click on details (I believe, it's been a long
time since I loaded 98) to see where the file should be and then
browse to that location. The problem is that Setup is probably looking
in the wrong place.


That's bad news, I hope to salvage the install that just completed.

Setup did not look to the CD, Details kept going to a windows folder.
What can you do in a case like that?

And if I now format again, will the "never windows before" accept it as a
fresh install?

I don't recall, but isn't there a windows utility that searches the OS
and detects which files need replacing?

ms

"ms" wrote in message
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. . . I hope to salvage the install that just completed.

Bad idea, unless you have a written record of every
single file reported missing, are familiar with Registry
tools etc.

Setup did not look to the CD, Details kept going to a windows folder.
What can you do in a case like that?

If you have the opportunity to / Browse, you can
redirect the setup routine to the CD drive. There is
no "windows folder (setup IIRC)" either on the CD
(most files are in either /Win98 or /Drivers) or on
your C: drive in a standard installation.

And if I now format again, will the "never windows before" accept it as a
fresh install?

It may be simpler to:
1. Instal vanilla Win98 from its OS CD.
2. Instal Win98SE from a Windows upgrade disk.

I don't recall, but isn't there a windows utility that searches the OS
and detects which files need replacing?

A database is created at first installation, and
SFC.EXE = System File Check utility can be run
later to see if they have been "corrupted" -- but
SFC cannot tell the difference between a damaged
file and one you have deliberately overwritten as
part of a security upgrade. All it knows is that a
file is different from the one copied there on first
installation of the OS. (But SFC can be highly
customized, e.g. to check only DLLs, i.e. is useful
if you know what you are doing.)
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

As Ron mentioned, it's more than likely it's looking in the wrong place for the
files. Most probable would be they are in one of the .cab files in the Win98 folder
on the install disk. To find where the files are in which cab see:
http://basconotw.mvps.org/98_Cabs.htm
or
http://basconotw.mvps.org/98SE_cabs.htm

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"ms" wrote in message ...
"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

It is generally not a good idea to upgrade a *used* system unless it
is running flawlessly or, in your case, it is a fresh installation of
the OS you are upgrading. An upgrade CD can be used for installing on
a blank HD if you have a qualifying CD (for example, W95 CD) that you
can insert when asked during setup.

Since you skipped files, I would format the drive and start over.
When it asks for a file, click on details (I believe, it's been a long
time since I loaded 98) to see where the file should be and then
browse to that location. The problem is that Setup is probably looking
in the wrong place.


That's bad news, I hope to salvage the install that just completed.

Setup did not look to the CD, Details kept going to a windows folder.
What can you do in a case like that?

And if I now format again, will the "never windows before" accept it as a
fresh install?

I don't recall, but isn't there a windows utility that searches the OS
and detects which files need replacing?

ms

BTW, if you use ctrl+f to bring up a find box on either page, type only the name of
the file without the extension. If you type the extension it will not find the
file(s).

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"ms" wrote in message ...
"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

It is generally not a good idea to upgrade a *used* system unless it
is running flawlessly or, in your case, it is a fresh installation of
the OS you are upgrading. An upgrade CD can be used for installing on
a blank HD if you have a qualifying CD (for example, W95 CD) that you
can insert when asked during setup.

Since you skipped files, I would format the drive and start over.
When it asks for a file, click on details (I believe, it's been a long
time since I loaded 98) to see where the file should be and then
browse to that location. The problem is that Setup is probably looking
in the wrong place.


That's bad news, I hope to salvage the install that just completed.

Setup did not look to the CD, Details kept going to a windows folder.
What can you do in a case like that?

And if I now format again, will the "never windows before" accept it as a
fresh install?

I don't recall, but isn't there a windows utility that searches the OS
and detects which files need replacing?

ms

Details should reveal which .cab file the requested file is in. When you
browse, change to the CD (usually D: drive) and find that .cab file. Once
the drive is formatted, you can use your upgrade CD to install the system
and show it the W95 CD when asked. It is easier to format the drive and
start over than it is to try to repair the incomplete setup.
--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"ms" wrote in message
...
"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

It is generally not a good idea to upgrade a *used* system unless it
is running flawlessly or, in your case, it is a fresh installation of
the OS you are upgrading. An upgrade CD can be used for installing on
a blank HD if you have a qualifying CD (for example, W95 CD) that you
can insert when asked during setup.

Since you skipped files, I would format the drive and start over.
When it asks for a file, click on details (I believe, it's been a long
time since I loaded 98) to see where the file should be and then
browse to that location. The problem is that Setup is probably looking
in the wrong place.


That's bad news, I hope to salvage the install that just completed.

Setup did not look to the CD, Details kept going to a windows folder.
What can you do in a case like that?

And if I now format again, will the "never windows before" accept it as a
fresh install?

I don't recall, but isn't there a windows utility that searches the OS
and detects which files need replacing?

ms

ms wrote in :

I had a failed ME in a Dell Dimension L700CXE, will replace with
W98SE. First I formatted from a W98SE boot disk.

Next I tried my upgrade W98Se install CD. It said there was no
previous MS product present.

I always understood in this ng that it is never a good idea to install
*over* a previous install. I'm sure in the past I used that CD, but
never on top of an OS.

So when can you use the upgrade CD?

I then used my "never had windows before" CD and installed ok.

During the install, it started asking for lots of useful files like
ftp, network, etc, maybe 20 files. It would not browse to the CD, kept
looking in a windows folder (setup IIRC), not finding the files, I
finally proceeded and it finished install.

Why on install from the CD, does it stop looking there and start
looking in a windows folder?

How to find what are missing files now, and install from the CD- I
assume they must be there?

Now on bootup, I get an error screen: "missing vnet.bios.vxd", enter
and windows starts. Where to find that file and where to install it?

In Device manager, a question mark for PCI System Management Bus

What kind of a device is this, I will need to find a driver for it,
and the PCI multimedia audio driver.

ms

Thanks to all

If I do it over, this brings up a issue.

Several months ago on this ng, on a different machine, advice caused
several reformats, several installs. After the last reformat, the install
wouldn't work, finally the hard drive was useless.

The advice after that was that format does not really remove all previous
history, so every reformat is a sort of risk for results. So it is better
to minimize reformats.

Advice?


ms