SR allocation keeps changing

Hi all :-)

I had set my System Restore allocation to 200mb as prescribed. But, every
time I startup it is getting changed back all the way to 3098mb. This has
been happening for several weeks, but, I have been monitoring it to see if
there is something that is influencing it to change. I have run all the
scans for viruses and underworldware, and all comes up clean.

I am concerned as to why this happening without my hand. I am the only one
in the house who uses this computer, so it can't be by another person
changing it.

What might cause the SR allocation to return to the 3098mb from the 200mb I
have it set for?

I'd truly appreciate any information regarding this matter.

Jan

If the amount of space allocated to SR keeps changing this suggest that it is
being reset each time you boot your PC. Do you have any checkpoints from
before you last rebooted and the space allocated to SR increased? If not then
that probably confirms the problem is due to SR being reset.

If this is what is happening what do you have being launched each time you
boot such as maintenance programs and the like?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jan Il wrote:

Hi all :-)

I had set my System Restore allocation to 200mb as prescribed. But, every
time I startup it is getting changed back all the way to 3098mb. This has
been happening for several weeks, but, I have been monitoring it to see if
there is something that is influencing it to change. I have run all the
scans for viruses and underworldware, and all comes up clean.

I am concerned as to why this happening without my hand. I am the only
one in the house who uses this computer, so it can't be by another person
changing it.

What might cause the SR allocation to return to the 3098mb from the 200mb
I have it set for?

I'd truly appreciate any information regarding this matter.

Hi Mike :-)
If the amount of space allocated to SR keeps changing this suggest
that it is being reset each time you boot your PC. Do you have any
checkpoints from before you last rebooted and the space allocated to
SR increased? If not then that probably confirms the problem is due
to SR being reset.

If this is what is happening what do you have being launched each
time you boot such as maintenance programs and the like?

Yes. I did have, lots, but, I reset the allocation and rebooted, and now I
have RP's back to June 10th. I checked the allocation shortly before I
posted this message, when I noticed a slew of RP's in the Archive folder,
and it was back to 3098. As I have had a 'few' problems with my SR, I check
it regularly, and monitor the RP's. That is how I have noticed the constant
resetting of the allocations. Each time I reset it to 200mg, and the next
time I check it's back to 3098.

I don't think that I have anything set for launch on startup, at least none
that I have set myself. I don't have any maint. programs set for auto. I
do all that manually. I checked this morning on first startup, and it is
back to 3098.

Thank you for your time and help. I truly appreciate it.

Jan

So, you are saying that whilst the space allocated to the SR archive keeps
reverting to 3098MB (which I assume is the maximum) you are not losing your
checkpoints. If that is the case then SR isn't resetting (a good thing), as
this is the usual reason for the space allocated reverting to the maximum 12%
of the drive. This suggests the problem may be more trivial and perhaps just
due to the setting not "sticking" in the registry although why this should
happen I've not a clue at the moment. For example I have similar but
unrelated problems of registry settings not "sticking", one example being the
WinTV window on this box which frequently loses its "Always on top" setting
and therefore gets hidden under new windows until reset. An annoyance but one
I live with. :-)
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jan Il wrote:

Hi Mike :-)
If the amount of space allocated to SR keeps changing this suggest
that it is being reset each time you boot your PC. Do you have any
checkpoints from before you last rebooted and the space allocated to
SR increased? If not then that probably confirms the problem is due
to SR being reset.

If this is what is happening what do you have being launched each
time you boot such as maintenance programs and the like?

Yes. I did have, lots, but, I reset the allocation and rebooted, and now
I have RP's back to June 10th. I checked the allocation shortly before I
posted this message, when I noticed a slew of RP's in the Archive folder,
and it was back to 3098. As I have had a 'few' problems with my SR, I
check it regularly, and monitor the RP's. That is how I have noticed the
constant resetting of the allocations. Each time I reset it to 200mg, and
the next time I check it's back to 3098.

I don't think that I have anything set for launch on startup, at least
none that I have set myself. I don't have any maint. programs set for
auto. I do all that manually. I checked this morning on first startup,
and it is back to 3098.

Thank you for your time and help. I truly appreciate it.

Jan

Mike M wrote:

'k...I don't have a problem as long as I know it is not a problem.....that
will cause a problem....somewhere. ??

I checked just before I posted this answer, and it is again back to 3098
(max). Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem, overflow,
too full or something? If not, then I won't worry about it and just flush a
few now and then. I back up the folder once a month just in case, and
usually keep the last couple of months. Habit :-)

Jan

Jan,

Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem

No, and if you periodically drop the setting down to your preferred limit you
will discard checkpoints and associated files to bring the size of the folder
within your new limits. Unless you are installing and uninstalling lots or
programs each day I doubt that the archive folder will ever get anywhere near
the 3GB figure you mention. For example on a stable system here it takes
around two weeks to fill 200MB so if you don't want the folder to use more
than a few hundred MB I would think you would only need to check and reduce
the size perhaps once a week or even fortnight.

I'm not sure why you back up the _RESTORE folder. That is one folder that
never needs to be backed up as any backed up data could never be used due to
the volatility of checkpoints and the need for the state manager audit trail
to be unbroken.

Cheers,
--
Mike M


Jan Il wrote:

'k...I don't have a problem as long as I know it is not a problem.....that
will cause a problem....somewhere. ??

I checked just before I posted this answer, and it is again back to 3098
(max). Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem, overflow,
too full or something? If not, then I won't worry about it and just flush
a few now and then. I back up the folder once a month just in case, and
usually keep the last couple of months. Habit :-)

Mike M wrote:
Jan,

Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem

No, and if you periodically drop the setting down to your preferred
limit you will discard checkpoints and associated files to bring the
size of the folder within your new limits. Unless you are installing
and uninstalling lots or programs each day I doubt that the archive
folder will ever get anywhere near the 3GB figure you mention. For
example on a stable system here it takes around two weeks to fill
200MB so if you don't want the folder to use more than a few hundred
MB I would think you would only need to check and reduce the size
perhaps once a week or even fortnight.

Sounds like a plan. I'll have to just do that then. Sheeh...first I get
none or only two. Now I am alive with them like a case of hives. :-)

I'm not sure why you back up the _RESTORE folder. That is one folder
that never needs to be backed up as any backed up data could never be
used due to the volatility of checkpoints and the need for the state
manager audit trail to be unbroken.

'k..sooo I won't back them. I can use that time to ponder the universe and
theorize on the age old question ... Why Is There Air?

Thank you, Mike, for your time and help, I really do appreciate it.

Jan

I just wish I knew why the allocated space kept defaulting to maximum. This
really is very peculiar but now you know the problem it's one that can
relatively easily be dealt with.

BTW seems you keep my sort of hours as I guess it's well gone 1a.m. in your
neck of the woods. :-)
--
Mike


Jan Il wrote:

Mike M wrote:
Jan,

Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem

No, and if you periodically drop the setting down to your preferred
limit you will discard checkpoints and associated files to bring the
size of the folder within your new limits. Unless you are installing
and uninstalling lots or programs each day I doubt that the archive
folder will ever get anywhere near the 3GB figure you mention. For
example on a stable system here it takes around two weeks to fill
200MB so if you don't want the folder to use more than a few hundred
MB I would think you would only need to check and reduce the size
perhaps once a week or even fortnight.

Sounds like a plan. I'll have to just do that then. Sheeh...first I get
none or only two. Now I am alive with them like a case of hives. :-)

I'm not sure why you back up the _RESTORE folder. That is one folder
that never needs to be backed up as any backed up data could never be
used due to the volatility of checkpoints and the need for the state
manager audit trail to be unbroken.

'k..sooo I won't back them. I can use that time to ponder the universe and
theorize on the age old question ... Why Is There Air?

Thank you, Mike, for your time and help, I really do appreciate it.

One question, Jan....

From what I read (and I'm multi-tasking here, so could be confused -
easily!), you're counting files as restore points - they're not!
Just go to System Restore in the normal way - and ask it to go to the
calendar as if you're intending to restore back.

How many points show *on the Calendar*???


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Jan Il" wrote in message
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Mike M wrote:
Jan,

Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem

No, and if you periodically drop the setting down to your preferred
limit you will discard checkpoints and associated files to bring the
size of the folder within your new limits. Unless you are installing
and uninstalling lots or programs each day I doubt that the archive
folder will ever get anywhere near the 3GB figure you mention. For
example on a stable system here it takes around two weeks to fill
200MB so if you don't want the folder to use more than a few hundred
MB I would think you would only need to check and reduce the size
perhaps once a week or even fortnight.

Sounds like a plan. I'll have to just do that then. Sheeh...first I get
none or only two. Now I am alive with them like a case of hives. :-)

I'm not sure why you back up the _RESTORE folder. That is one folder
that never needs to be backed up as any backed up data could never be
used due to the volatility of checkpoints and the need for the state
manager audit trail to be unbroken.

'k..sooo I won't back them. I can use that time to ponder the universe and
theorize on the age old question ... Why Is There Air?

Thank you, Mike, for your time and help, I really do appreciate it.

Jan

Hi Noel :-)

One question, Jan....

From what I read (and I'm multi-tasking here, so could be confused -
easily!), you're counting files as restore points - they're not!
Just go to System Restore in the normal way - and ask it to go to the
calendar as if you're intending to restore back.

How many points show *on the Calendar*???

Sorry to get back here so late....other duties arose. :-)

Anyway, yes I know what you are saying, and I always check the calendar
first, and try the arrows to go back to the previous month(s) if they are
there. I have been checking the RP's every other day, to, hopefully, see if
there is some sort of pattern, or connection to something I have done during
the day that might have triggered the whatever it is that is mucking up the
RP's. It is odd that something keeps changing the setting from 200 MB to
max. 1038 MB. You told me many times to keep it at 200 MB. And, one time I
look, there are maybe 2-3 months worth of RP's, then suddenly, it is down to
maybe 3-4 days max., then others, only the current date. It is so hard to
track when it is so radically disorderly and errotic.

Thanks for the additional help.

Jan


"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Mike M wrote:
Jan,

Will having a lot of RP's in the folder cause a problem

No, and if you periodically drop the setting down to your preferred
limit you will discard checkpoints and associated files to bring the
size of the folder within your new limits. Unless you are
installing and uninstalling lots or programs each day I doubt that
the archive folder will ever get anywhere near the 3GB figure you
mention. For example on a stable system here it takes around two
weeks to fill 200MB so if you don't want the folder to use more
than a few hundred MB I would think you would only need to check
and reduce the size perhaps once a week or even fortnight.

Sounds like a plan. I'll have to just do that then. Sheeh...first
I get none or only two. Now I am alive with them like a case of
hives. :-)

I'm not sure why you back up the _RESTORE folder. That is one
folder that never needs to be backed up as any backed up data could
never be used due to the volatility of checkpoints and the need for
the state manager audit trail to be unbroken.

'k..sooo I won't back them. I can use that time to ponder the
universe and theorize on the age old question ... Why Is There Air?

Thank you, Mike, for your time and help, I really do appreciate it.

Jan