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Old June 20th 07, 01:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Brusso
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Default WINDOWS 98 QUESTION!

In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system recovery
checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to remember how to do it.

Also, can you please tell me how to go back and choose a restore point,
either one that I created myself or that the computer created itself.

If I remember correctly the computer itself will only create 3 successful
restore points either by myself or on it's own. Am I correct?

Is there any way at all that you can set it to where you can have more than
3 restore points and if so would it be a wise decision to do so based on that
it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the limit? Please let me know all
of the answers to my questions.
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Old June 20th 07, 01:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Brusso wrote:
In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system
recovery checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to
remember how to do it.


Not possible.

Best that can be done (without having a copy of C is to restore an
older registry. Doing that won't help if files have been deleted; any
programs installed after the date of the restored registry may not
function.
____________________

Also, can you please tell me how to go back and choose a restore
point, either one that I created myself or that the computer
created itself.


To restore a registry back up, boot to DOS and type "scanreg /restore"
(no quotes) then select one of the usual five by date.
________________________

If I remember correctly the computer itself will only create 3
successful restore points either by myself or on it's own. Am I
correct?


Five is normal
________________________

Is there any way at all that you can set it to where you can have
more than 3 restore points and if so would it be a wise decision to
do so based on that it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the
limit? Please let me know all of the answers to my questions.


Edit the Scanreg.ini file in the Windows folder (you'll have to
temporarily remove the Read only attribute).

Backup=1
If set to 0 (zero), no backups. Set it to 1.

You can also increase the number of backups retained but only 5 show
up in Scanreg /restore.
MaxBackupCopies=5 ( I set mine for 10 )

If you set it up so you have more than 5 registry backups and want to
restore one, you need to use Windows to browse to the
C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP folder and move the ones you don't want to
consider for restoring to another temporary folder (the rbxxx.cab
files are the zipped registry files); then boot to DOS, restore, boot
to Windows and move them back.

You can also double click the rb000.cab files in to open them then
right click the files and extract.



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Old June 20th 07, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ron Martell
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Brusso wrote:

In Windows 98 can you please tell me how I can create a system recovery
checkpoint. I did this years ago and can't seem to remember how to do it.

Also, can you please tell me how to go back and choose a restore point,
either one that I created myself or that the computer created itself.

If I remember correctly the computer itself will only create 3 successful
restore points either by myself or on it's own. Am I correct?

Is there any way at all that you can set it to where you can have more than
3 restore points and if so would it be a wise decision to do so based on that
it could mess something up if I do or is 3 the limit? Please let me know all
of the answers to my questions.



Windows 98 does not include any actual "system restore" function. That
capability first appeared with Windows Millennium Edtion (WindowsMe)
and was refined and enhanced with Windows XP.

What Windows 98 does have is a registry backup, restore, and repair
function called SCANREG which works only with the 2 Windows 98
registry files (system.dat and user.dat) and with two of Windows
critical configuration files (win.ini and system.ini).

SCANREG is normally active as part of the startup axis of your
computer and therefore runs automatically each time you start up the
computer (unless you are one of the foolhardy types who has turned off
the "scan registry" item using MSCONFIG. What scanreg does is to
check the current registry and ensure that it is valid. Then, on the
first startup of each calendar day, it creates a new backup as a
compressed .CAB file. It retains the 5 most recent backup files and
automatically deletes the oldest one when a new one is created.

There are a number of options available with SCANREG, including the
ability to create a new manual backup whenever you want (it will count
as one of the 5), to select one of the 5 available backups to be
restored, and to optimize and/or repair the existing registry files.

To create a manual registry backup from within Windows use Start - Run
and enter the following command:
SCANREGW /BACKUP

To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows
use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE

To restore a backup from a command prompt or startup disk boot use
SCANREG /RESTORE

To optimize, compact and/or repair the existing registry use
SCANREG /OPT /FIX

You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a
setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only
make the 5 most recent ones available even if more are present. Also
restoring a registry backup that is more than 5 days old will very
often cause more problems than it will fix.

Hope this explains the situation.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Old June 21st 07, 01:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
[email protected]
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To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows
use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE


You can't restore the registry from within Windows, only from DOS with
scanreg /restore.

You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a
setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only
make the 5 most recent ones available even if more are present.


I would disagree with that. Some problems that are short of inability
to boot Windows but nevertheless unpleasant may not appear for more
than 5 days. I have had many annoying glitches develop over the years
both with programs and the OS caused by the registry. If the problem
developed more than five days before it became apparent, replacing the
registry won't help. Even though, Scanreg will only show the 5 most
recent backups, the older ones can be located in sysbckup folder in
Windows. The cab file can be unzipped and system.dat and user.dat
placed somewhere. Then, in DOS they can be copied to the Windows
folder. I have had no problems saving 10 backups. I have thought of
adding even more.

When I think of it, I like to rename one of the cab files so it won't
get deleted. Then, if I should need a registry older than 10 days,
there is one available.

Also
restoring a registry backup that is more than 5 days old will very
often cause more problems than it will fix.


What kinds of problems? I've never seen any.


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Old June 21st 07, 04:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
vin
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SCANREG is normally active as part of the startup axis of your
computer and therefore runs automatically each time you start up the
computer (unless you are one of the foolhardy types who has turned off
the "scan registry" item using MSCONFIG.


Your reply to the o/p is the best I've ever read.
I hope for my sake you might help me too, especially regarding the above
part of your post to o/p.
I am not foolhardy but it looks like I may be. When I read the bit about
"scan registry" in msconfig, I clicked on my shortcut to msconfig to check
if mine was where it should be, but I dont have anything there relating to
it,
and I know for sure that I wouldnt have turned it off or otherwise.......
am I missing something?
I have 11 entries in my msconfig, all justified.
Now that I think about it, scanreg/restore has been in my msconfig, but
now its not..... hmmmm?!
Here is what is there at the moment...
TaskMon, SysTray, Avast, AshMaiSv, GeneUSBmon, nwiz, TweakUI, IconSaver,
SchedulingAgent, avast!, Microsoft Office StartUp.

All the above are 'norm'. They are just the tray, my AV,
MicroStuff....etc..
So, what do you think happened to my scanreg/.....?

Again, great post to original poster...... I have copied your reply and
filed it appropiately.

tia


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

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has never been in bed with a mosquito."



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Old June 21st 07, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ron Martell
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"vin" wrote:


Your reply to the o/p is the best I've ever read.
I hope for my sake you might help me too, especially regarding the above
part of your post to o/p.
I am not foolhardy but it looks like I may be. When I read the bit about
"scan registry" in msconfig, I clicked on my shortcut to msconfig to check
if mine was where it should be, but I dont have anything there relating to
it,
and I know for sure that I wouldnt have turned it off or otherwise.......
am I missing something?
I have 11 entries in my msconfig, all justified.
Now that I think about it, scanreg/restore has been in my msconfig, but
now its not..... hmmmm?!
Here is what is there at the moment...
TaskMon, SysTray, Avast, AshMaiSv, GeneUSBmon, nwiz, TweakUI, IconSaver,
SchedulingAgent, avast!, Microsoft Office StartUp.

All the above are 'norm'. They are just the tray, my AV,
MicroStuff....etc..
So, what do you think happened to my scanreg/.....?

Again, great post to original poster...... I have copied your reply and
filed it appropiately.


Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan
registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power profile"
entries.

I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back
but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the
necessary details.




Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Old June 21st 07, 06:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH
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Ron Martell wrote:

Your startup in Windows 98 should (must ?) include not only "scan
registry" (without a /restore switch) but also 2 "load power
profile" entries.

I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back
but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the
necessary details.


For scanreg, it is in...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run

Name is...
ScanRegistry

and Data for name (on my machine) is...
"C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun"

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Old June 22nd 07, 02:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Mikhail Zhilin
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:40:07 -0700, wrote:

To restore one of the existing registry backups from within Windows
use Start - Run - SCANREGW /RESTORE


You can't restore the registry from within Windows, only from DOS with
scanreg /restore.


To add to Ron Martell, there is an undocumented switch to restore the
Registry using Scanreg when you are in Windows:

scanreg /win

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You can actually have SCANREG save more than 5 backups by changing a
setting but it is a futile exercise as the restore function will only
make the 5 most recent ones available even if more are present.


I would disagree with that. Some problems that are short of inability
to boot Windows but nevertheless unpleasant may not appear for more
than 5 days. I have had many annoying glitches develop over the years
both with programs and the OS caused by the registry. If the problem
developed more than five days before it became apparent, replacing the
registry won't help. Even though, Scanreg will only show the 5 most
recent backups, the older ones can be located in sysbckup folder in
Windows. The cab file can be unzipped and system.dat and user.dat
placed somewhere. Then, in DOS they can be copied to the Windows
folder. I have had no problems saving 10 backups. I have thought of
adding even more.

When I think of it, I like to rename one of the cab files so it won't
get deleted. Then, if I should need a registry older than 10 days,
there is one available.

Also
restoring a registry backup that is more than 5 days old will very
often cause more problems than it will fix.


What kinds of problems? I've never seen any.


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Old June 25th 07, 11:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
vin
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I don't have the exact command syntax needed to add these items back
but perhaps one of the others on this newsgroup will provide the
necessary details.




Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Hello Ron,
Now I'm confused.
Yes, Load power profile was in my msconfig, (both) but now they are not
there along with my scanreg/restore etc..
What the heck happened that removed them?
How can I get them back.
I know that if I do a 'bad-shutdown' my computer will still run the
blue-screen
check of the drive, so something about scan/reg must still be active
somewhere.

Help!
vin


 




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