How to view a file .avi with Irfanview that asks for H264 on Win98

I've got Irfanview 4.25 that views almost EVERYTHING, except when I
went to view a download archive from security camaeras, .avi, it asks
me to go to
http://www.fourcc.org/indexcod.html
and get the H264 codec

When I go to the site, it comes up with Vanguard beta, whose linkno
longer works, and with a H264 (unknown), which I downloaded.

I'm hesitant to install H264 (unknown), because nothing is working
like my other installs.

Should I install? Someone look at that codec and let me know if it's
ok, or better yet is there a better one? Or, is there a small program
that will simply allow me to view frame by frame, with good imaging
[like Irfanview]?


PS: Same thing came up on my WinXP, so I went to the site (since it
recognized the WinXP) it gave me the codec packet H260 - H269 and
downloaded some small piece, that when I went to install, tried to
'pirate' my whole machine to install numerous Delta software, and said
"Connect" then said this will take at most a minute. Four hours and
100+MB later I got the program. Installed it, only to have it say
can't install; must be SP3 ?!! [the machine cannot be upgraded to the
hardware necessary to go from SP2 to SP3] After all this, Irfanview
opened the .avi and apparently ran it, I knew what was on the archive;
BUT !! I keep getting a giant notice in the center that says Windows
can't run this file ??!! Say what, I'm watching it, what are you
talking about. Worst of all, the stupid notice keeps popping up afater
I click to erase it, over nad over.

Robert Macy wrote:

I've got Irfanview 4.25 that views almost EVERYTHING, except
when I went to view a download archive from security camaeras,
.avi,

Why don't you have the VLC media player yet?

I hear a lot of people talk about irfanview, and I probably have it on
my win-98 systems, but I never use it.

If Microsoft Photo-editor (my default app for opening jpg and gif files
from explorer) can't open any given jpg file (because the file is too
large), or if I have to perform some photo editing task, then I'll fire
up CorelDraw's photopaint.

But for audio or video files, VLC has been my default player for years.

If you want something more light-weight, then get MediaPlayer Classic.

98 Guy wrote:

Robert Macy wrote:

I've got Irfanview 4.25 that views almost EVERYTHING, except
when I went to view a download archive from security camaeras,
.avi,

Why don't you have the VLC media player yet?

Good question. Probably the best thing going for audio and video
files. Handles *many* more formats than the MS player.

I hear a lot of people talk about irfanview, and I probably have it on
my win-98 systems, but I never use it.

It's excellent for still pics. And animated gifs. It handles about any
image format you can think of.

If Microsoft Photo-editor (my default app for opening jpg and gif files
from explorer) can't open any given jpg file (because the file is too
large), or if I have to perform some photo editing task, then I'll fire
up CorelDraw's photopaint.

But you have to pay for that. Irfanview is free. It's not a
full-featured editor like Photopaint or Photoshop, bit it does an
amazing number of things, and it's free. The main problem, I think, is
that h.264 is proprietary. That's why you can't play an h.264 video in
Mozilla (without third party help, anyway).

But for audio or video files, VLC has been my default player for years.

No argument, and it's also free. And the latest version (now up to
2.0.6) plays h.264 according to
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video. I don't know how
they get around the proprietaryness.

--
Tim Slattery

Tim Slattery wrote:

... then I'll fire up CorelDraw's photopaint.

But you have to pay for that. Irfanview is free.

Yea, well, I've got Coreldraw version 9, which is over 10 years old, and
when I created about a dozen win-98 machines for my office and home back
in 2005 I started with a single master win-98 installation that I
repeatedly cloned, and that master included the full MS Office 2000
Premium SR1 and Coreldraw 9 among other things. So I tend to treat
CorelDraw and Office 2k as an integral component of win-98. I think
that Office itself has some advanced photo-editing or viewing software
(that I don't use).

No argument, and it's also free. And the latest version (now up
to 2.0.6) plays h.264 - I don't know how they get around the
proprietaryness.

One argument I've heard is that the VLC effort is based (or hosted) in
France, and France doesn't recognize software patents as a form of
intellectual property.

I don't know if either claim is true.

On May 24, 5:48*am, Tim Slattery wrote:
98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:

I've got Irfanview 4.25 that views almost EVERYTHING, except
when I went to view a download archive from security camaeras,
.avi,

Why don't you have the VLC media player yet?

Good question. Probably the best thing going for audio and video
files. Handles *many* more formats than the MS player.

I hear a lot of people talk about irfanview, and I probably have it on
my win-98 systems, but I never use it.

It's excellent for still pics. And animated gifs. It handles about any
image format you can think of.

If Microsoft Photo-editor (my default app for opening jpg and gif files
from explorer) can't open any given jpg file (because the file is too
large), or if I have to perform some photo editing task, then I'll fire
up CorelDraw's photopaint.

But you have to pay for that. Irfanview is free. It's not a
full-featured editor like Photopaint or Photoshop, bit it does an
amazing number of things, and it's free. The main problem, I think, is
that h.264 is proprietary. That's why you can't play an h.264 video in
Mozilla (without third party help, anyway).

But for audio or video files, VLC has been my default player for years.

No argument, and it's also free. And the latest version (now up to
2.0.6) plays h.264 according tohttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video. I don't know how
they get around the proprietaryness.

--
Tim Slattery


couldn't figure out what to download. I have kernelex, but it asked me
again ??
not clear

Will VLC .avi viewer let me do frame by frame analyses? I've got a
view of a motorcycle that clearly shows 51 mph in our 5 mph location,
I need to document and confront the offender's kid. Else, this kid
could get killed in an accident on my property and let's guess whose
liable.

Robert Macy wrote:

Will VLC .avi viewer let me do frame by frame analyses?

You can change the playback speed and slow it down. Not sure if it can
do frame-by-frame.

I think you can slow it down to something like 1/4 real-time.

Here, I found this on the web:

========
Space: toggle pause/play

F: toggle full-screen (you can also use Esc to leave full-screen mode)
Z: change zoom mode
Ctrl + Up/Down: Adjust volume up/down (can also use mouse scroll wheel)
M: toggle mute
T: display time remaining/elapsed
+/-: play media faster/slower
S: stop play
Ctrl + H: toggle control display
E: watch video frame by frame
V: toggle subtitles
P: previous item in media que
N: next item in media que
==========

So "E" on the keyboard will apparently do frame-by-frame.

On May 24, 7:42*am, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
Will VLC .avi viewer let me do frame by frame analyses?

You can change the playback speed and slow it down. *Not sure if it can
do frame-by-frame.

I think you can slow it down to something like 1/4 real-time.

Here, I found this on the web:

========
Space: toggle pause/play

F: toggle full-screen (you can also use Esc to leave full-screen mode)
Z: change zoom mode
Ctrl + Up/Down: Adjust volume up/down (can also use mouse scroll wheel)
M: toggle mute
T: display time remaining/elapsed
+/-: play media faster/slower
S: stop play
Ctrl + H: toggle control display
E: watch video frame by frame
V: toggle subtitles
P: previous item in media que
N: next item in media que
==========

So "E" on the keyboard will apparently do frame-by-frame.

yes found on the Win98 left there from years ago: vlc 0.8.6 and can't
change size of zcreen, corner dragging or just maximum.

I down'loaded something for the WinXP, 22MB and more recent than what
was on there by one subrev level 5 to 6. It does seem snappy and
'smooths' the image ok, but...I can't step frame by frame. I need to
stop on a frame SANPSHOT, step to next frame SNAPSHOT and can't do
that in VLC

Oh well....

"Robert Macy"
wrote in message
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On May 24, 5:48 am, Tim Slattery wrote:
Will VLC .avi viewer let me do frame by frame analyses? I've got a
view of a motorcycle that clearly shows 51 mph in our 5 mph location,
I need to document and confront the offender's kid. Else, this kid
could get killed in an accident on my property and let's guess whose
liable.


If you have VLC
H264.avi
Will run in Irfanview
on Win98sp1

On Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, hot-text wrote:
"Robert Macy"
wrote in message
...
On May 24, 5:48 am, Tim Slattery wrote:
Will VLC .avi viewer let me do frame by frame analyses? I've got a
view of a motorcycle that clearly shows 51 mph in our 5 mph location,
I need to document and confront the offender's kid. Else, this kid
could get killed in an accident on my property and let's guess whose
liable.


If you have VLC
H264.avi
Will run in Irfanview
on Win98sp1

Thanks for the hint, will look again. I have Win98SE, which won't run Adobe's Acrobat 6 which specifically states it will run on Win98SE, so don't know what the OS actually is. maybe half way between.

But VLC is installed, yet Irfanview wouldn't view the avi. And, VLC simply locked up the system.

Forgot what works best, but has frame forward and frame reverse, which none of the others had. I needed the frame step characteristic for viewing security tapes.

On May 23, 6:02*pm, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
I've got Irfanview 4.25 that views almost EVERYTHING, except
when I went to view a download archive from security camaeras,
.avi,

Why don't you have the VLC media player yet?

I hear a lot of people talk about irfanview, and I probably have it on
my win-98 systems, but I never use it.

If Microsoft Photo-editor (my default app for opening jpg and gif files
from explorer) can't open any given jpg file (because the file is too
large), or if I have to perform some photo editing task, then I'll fire
up CorelDraw's photopaint.

But for audio or video files, VLC has been my default player for years.

If you want something more light-weight, then get MediaPlayer Classic.

Years ago, I installed VLC what a battle! first it was clunky to use,
second there was NO way to change the size of the view. Then I
discovered Sothink and Irfanview's extensions, which seemed to open
everything, plus I can change the size of the view.So I left VLC
sitting there.

Just now I opened the avi with VLC and sure enough, screen went to
small viewing size, but then went to total blackout, nothing. wait and
wait. Luckily, recovered without a reboot by hitting esc twice.
whew!

So, I'm still not excited about VLC. But you say it will work. ok.
I'll fiddle with it a bit.